Semi-protected edit request on 13 February 2025

Most sources define Gen Z as 1997-2012, including Pew Research Center, Beresford Research, and Pearson Accelerated Path. By saying ", and some other sources have followed suit" it leaves out the fact that a generation is usually about 15 years, and it has been defined that way for every generation before, and that McCrindle's Definition would break that law. "change

Other sources, while they have not specified a range for Generation Alpha, have specified end years for Generation Z of 2010, 2012, or 2013, implying a later start year than 2010 for Generation Alpha. to There is no consensus yet on the birth years of Generation Alpha. McCrindle, who coined the term, uses 2010–2024, and some other sources have followed suit, sometimes with minor variations like 2010–2025 or 2011–2025. Some others have used shorter ranges, such as 2011–2021 or 2013–2021.

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Other sources, while they have not specified a range for Generation Alpha, have specified end years for Generation Z, with 2012 being a widely used cut-off.[25][26][27] This definition is supported by research organizations such as Pew Research Center, Beresford Research, and Pearson Accelerated Path, which define Generation Z as those born between 1997 and 2012. Given this, Generation Alpha would logically begin in 2013 or later. " 74.96.8.88 (talk) 21:14, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source. Sundayclose (talk) 00:34, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This request actually is in "change X to Y" form, but the response is still no. The conclusion "Generation Alpha would logically begin in 2013 or later" is arguably true, but Wikipedia can't say it without a specific source. See WP:SYNTHESIS. See also WP:GENHARD. Dan Bloch (talk) 06:18, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Removed by consensus"

@Danbloch: Please link to that discussion. Thank you! I am not convinced. Nerd271 (talk) 18:00, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Generation Alpha/Archive 1#Greek alphabet graphic
Talk:Generation Alpha/Archive 1#Remove Greek Alphabet image?
Talk:Generation Alpha/Archive 1#Figure with greek alphabet
Dan Bloch (talk) 18:28, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is English Wikipedia, so we predominantly use the Roman alphabet. Many readers may not be familiar with the Greek alphabet, so it makes sense to put one there. (You might be surprised that even people in the mathematical and physical sciences struggle with it.) Nerd271 (talk) 18:36, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But they don't have to know the Greek alphabet to understand Generation Alpha. "Alpha" and "Greek alphabet" are both wikilinked in the lead paragraph for readers who do want to learn about these. Dan Bloch (talk) 21:35, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They should be familiar with the Greek alphabet to understand the new naming convention. Moreover, images are right here, whereas links take them to another page. Nerd271 (talk) 15:18, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They should be familiar with the Greek alphabet to understand the new naming convention - Not true. If they know it's the first letter of the Greek alphabet, and the history about the hurricane naming convention mentioned below, they understand it. They don't need to know what the other letters of the Greek alphabet are, or what the letters look like.
Moreover, images are right here, whereas links take them to another page - This is why it's bad. The image isn't relevant, so it's a distraction. Dan Bloch (talk) 23:50, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They need to know where the name comes from, and this is right in the section on etymology. This is an encyclopedia. It is our business to inform our readers. It makes little sense to claim that readers don't need to know this or that. This image is relevant and is not a distraction. Perhaps we should bring in a third opinion. Nerd271 (talk) 15:41, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Since there's a consensus I don't think third opinion applies here, but feel free to submit it and see what the third opinion people think. Dan Bloch (talk) 05:43, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Allikas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AGeneration_Alpha
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