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::It has been 12 years since the name changed officially. It is past decade it took for Mumbai. I have provided the sources required, per [[Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names)#Use_English]]. I will also note that large commercial operators like Expedia are now using Bengaluru. I will also say that I am concerned that I am providing sources, as above, and citing policy, as above, and people who disagree are providing no sources, as above, other than google searches, which as I noted goes against [[Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names)#Use_English]] which states "Raw counts from Google must be considered with extreme caution, if at all." So all things being equal, no one is providing a solid reason to dispute my contention which is the threshhold to rename in the policy is met. So can we change it now? [[User:WayeMason|WayeMason]] ([[User talk:WayeMason|talk]]) 20:38, 20 July 2019 (UTC) |
::It has been 12 years since the name changed officially. It is past decade it took for Mumbai. I have provided the sources required, per [[Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names)#Use_English]]. I will also note that large commercial operators like Expedia are now using Bengaluru. I will also say that I am concerned that I am providing sources, as above, and citing policy, as above, and people who disagree are providing no sources, as above, other than google searches, which as I noted goes against [[Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names)#Use_English]] which states "Raw counts from Google must be considered with extreme caution, if at all." So all things being equal, no one is providing a solid reason to dispute my contention which is the threshhold to rename in the policy is met. So can we change it now? [[User:WayeMason|WayeMason]] ([[User talk:WayeMason|talk]]) 20:38, 20 July 2019 (UTC) |
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:::Valid point... It would be helpful to see some examples of reliable sources (written since the name change) that continue to use “Bangalore”. [[User:Blueboar|Blueboar]] ([[User talk:Blueboar|talk]]) 12:47, 21 July 2019 (UTC) |
:::Valid point... It would be helpful to see some examples of reliable sources (written since the name change) that continue to use “Bangalore”. [[User:Blueboar|Blueboar]] ([[User talk:Blueboar|talk]]) 12:47, 21 July 2019 (UTC) |
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Hi([[User talk:Blueboar|talk]]), as you can see from above we have tried to move eleven times before! , there are some wikipedian who are in staunch |
Hi([[User talk:Blueboar|talk]]), as you can see from above we have tried to move eleven times before! , there are some wikipedian who are in staunch love with old name and have fiercly fought for it , so I have given up trying to do this all the above discussion makes no difference sorry to say . would give it some time i.e until the staunch protectors become old and die ;) then you ll have your chance [[User:Shrikanthv|Shrikanthv]] ([[User talk:Shrikanthv|talk]]) 14:11, 23 July 2019 (UTC) |
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Please include the topic on KempeGowda-The founder of Bengaluru(with picture) and Lakshmi Devi- His daughter-in -law,who sacrificed her life to safeguard the city then.This is of great historical importance
Most cities have a topic on History and growth.Bangalore historys starts with KempeGowda and Lakshmi Devi.Its a mark respect to include write-ups about the founder along with the picture.
WHile Bangalore is portrayed as the IT city,Garden city..,its also important to uncover the History of this beautiful city.
One institution missing in Bangalore premier (higher education) institutes list
The institution 'TIFR Centre for Applicable Mathematics' should be added to the list of the premier research institutes in Bangalore. Here is its Wiki page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TIFR_Centre_for_Applicable_Mathematics.
This is really a cutting edge school on applied mathematics, but specially partial differential equations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Upanshu56 (talk • contribs) 10:08, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
Move to Bengaluru
Why wikipedia still follows old name? Even google has changed everything to Bengaluru: https://www.google.at/search?q=Bengaluru https://www.google.at/search?q=Bengalore
there are many more news articles in 24h timefrime for Bengaluru than Bangalore:
https://www.google.at/search?biw=1536&bih=763&tbm=nws&ei=lrLJW9nFPMnpsQH8hYDIDQ&q=bengalore&oq=benga
lore&gs_l=psy-ab.3...22234.23089.0.23276.6.6.0.0.0.0.138.477.0j4.4.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..2.0.0....0.jhKoQ5Txlo8
https://www.google.at/search?biw=1536&bih=763&tbm=nws&ei=vrLJW-idF8SnsAHEva_gAQ&q=bengaluru&oq=bengaluru&gs_l=psy-ab.3...603.1592.0.1762.4.3.1.0.0.0.118.308.2j1.3.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.wyNcqWpgv_k
How is this still standing at "Bangalore" ?! --89.144.196.148 (talk) 10:30, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- I have never heard anyone from call it Bengaluru. I work with Indians and while Mumbai for example is quite widespread Bangalore remains Bangalore..--APG1984 (talk) 17:21, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- I think it is time to move this to Bengaluru. The city is called as 'Bengaluru' in Kannada since the beginning. Bangalore was renamed as Bengaluru in 2015 and now everyone uses Bengaluru and not Bangalore. Dheerajmpai23 (talk) 17:50, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- While that may hold in the Kannada Wikipedia, the English name of the city has been Bangalore. The fact that there can be different names for a city in different languages is nothing new (Wien/Vienna, München/Munich, Lisboa/Lisbon, and the list of examples is endless). MikeLynch (talk) 16:12, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- Additional reason to change - Expedia sells tickets to Bengaluru... not Bengalore. 260 million people speak English as their first language in India We don't call Beijing Peking. Bengalore is now becoming the globally used name, this feels like western colonialism, folks. Let's change this. WayeMason (talk) 18:06, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- Please undertake a move request under the WP:RM framework. El_C 18:07, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- Mr. WayeMason and Mr. Dheerajmpai23,
- Wikipedia does not care about what you think, about what I think, about what India and Karnataka governments think. Wikipedia is staunchly NEUTRAL. There are several cities across the world where the local name is not depicted as the Wiki page name. Just because Mumbai and Chennai were renamed several years back, that need not necessarily mean that Bangalore should also get moved to Bengaluru. Wikipedia is NOT an India-centric website. It is an Encyclopedia that caters to the entire world and people with various mindsets. However, let there be a Consensus regarding this Page Move.
- P.S: Beyond this Encyclopedic stuff, I'm curious to know why didn't all these name changing drama in India take place before 1947?
- 2401:4900:16E8:8401:616A:CE30:AF8:2BBD (talk) 19:51, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- Using terms like "Wikipedia does not care what Indian government think" as it is"neutral" is more bias wording than it can get. So is Wikipedia trying to say Karantaka government is illegitimate? And users who have given examples like why Rome is not written as Roma is misleading. This is English Wikipedia. Rome is English official wording of Italian word Roma. Go to Italian wikipedia and it will use Roma. Also Italian uses Latin alphabet and Hindi does not. In India the official English wording is Bangaluru just like Rome is of Roma. International cities like Astana has been moved to Nur Sultan within months but Indian cities still bear their former names after years. If this is not colonial mindset and bias towards India on Wikipedia then I don't know what it is.2409:4064:2094:1968:A71:F121:DE41:9201 (talk) 16:24, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- Additional reason to change - Expedia sells tickets to Bengaluru... not Bengalore. 260 million people speak English as their first language in India We don't call Beijing Peking. Bengalore is now becoming the globally used name, this feels like western colonialism, folks. Let's change this. WayeMason (talk) 18:06, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- While that may hold in the Kannada Wikipedia, the English name of the city has been Bangalore. The fact that there can be different names for a city in different languages is nothing new (Wien/Vienna, München/Munich, Lisboa/Lisbon, and the list of examples is endless). MikeLynch (talk) 16:12, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- I think it is time to move this to Bengaluru. The city is called as 'Bengaluru' in Kannada since the beginning. Bangalore was renamed as Bengaluru in 2015 and now everyone uses Bengaluru and not Bangalore. Dheerajmpai23 (talk) 17:50, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- WP:COMMON NAME applies. Searching on either google.com or google.co.uk returns 4 times as many hits for Bangalore over Bengaluru. In time this will likely change but we are not there yet. noq (talk) 17:12, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- Incorrect application of the policy against written guidance... Common name links to Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names)#Use_English which states "Raw counts from Google must be considered with extreme caution, if at all." so that is meaningless for this discussion. Using the list for "Disinterested, authoritative reference works" I found Getty Thesaurus of Geographic names says "Bengalūru (preferred,C,V,English,U)" [1] the US Geonames database lists Bengalūru (Approved - N) above Bengalore on there list [2] and finally Britannica says Bengaluru formerly Bengalore. [3] CIA World factbook does not have a page on Bengalore or Bengaluru and the map of India does have Bengalore. Reuters reports from and on Bengaluru. The New York Times no longer uses Bengalore [4] The Guardian UK uses both Bengalore and Bengaluru. Washington Post uses Bengaluru [5] except in automatically generated weather reports that still say Bengalore [6] The article itself states that the city, state, and union governments all approved the change. Again, India is an English speaking country. I am not sure how much more we need here. WayeMason (talk) 10:58, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
- WP:COMMON NAME applies. Searching on either google.com or google.co.uk returns 4 times as many hits for Bangalore over Bengaluru. In time this will likely change but we are not there yet. noq (talk) 17:12, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- WP:COMMON NAME does say use commonly recognized name. Bombay was moved to Mumbai 10 years after the official name change - Bangalore to Bengaluru has only been half that time. WP:MPN says using the new name "depends on that change having become predominant in common global usage". So far I do not believe it is. noq (talk) 12:33, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
The key here is that we do not necessarily use official names, instead we favor Recognizable names. We determine what is most recognizable by looking at usage in reliable English language sources that are independent of the subject. In many cases, this will be the official name, but not always. When a name changes, we examine the sources written after the change took place. Sometimes most sources start using the new name right away (for example, when Leningrad changed back to St. Petersburg). Sometimes it takes years for a new name to take hold (the change from Bombay to Mumbai is an example)... and sometimes the majority of sources never accept the new name. So... what we need is a thorough examination of independent sources... how many have changed to Bangalaru, and how many are still using Bangalore? Have we reached a tipping point? Blueboar (talk) 13:11, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
- It has been 12 years since the name changed officially. It is past decade it took for Mumbai. I have provided the sources required, per Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names)#Use_English. I will also note that large commercial operators like Expedia are now using Bengaluru. I will also say that I am concerned that I am providing sources, as above, and citing policy, as above, and people who disagree are providing no sources, as above, other than google searches, which as I noted goes against Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names)#Use_English which states "Raw counts from Google must be considered with extreme caution, if at all." So all things being equal, no one is providing a solid reason to dispute my contention which is the threshhold to rename in the policy is met. So can we change it now? WayeMason (talk) 20:38, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
- Valid point... It would be helpful to see some examples of reliable sources (written since the name change) that continue to use “Bangalore”. Blueboar (talk) 12:47, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
- It has been 12 years since the name changed officially. It is past decade it took for Mumbai. I have provided the sources required, per Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names)#Use_English. I will also note that large commercial operators like Expedia are now using Bengaluru. I will also say that I am concerned that I am providing sources, as above, and citing policy, as above, and people who disagree are providing no sources, as above, other than google searches, which as I noted goes against Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names)#Use_English which states "Raw counts from Google must be considered with extreme caution, if at all." So all things being equal, no one is providing a solid reason to dispute my contention which is the threshhold to rename in the policy is met. So can we change it now? WayeMason (talk) 20:38, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Hi(talk), as you can see from above we have tried to move eleven times before! , there are some wikipedian who are in staunch love with old name and have fiercly fought for it , so I have given up trying to do this all the above discussion makes no difference sorry to say . would give it some time i.e until the staunch protectors become old and die ;) then you ll have your chance Shrikanthv (talk) 14:11, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Cover photo issues
The cover photo of the article does not capture the essence of the city nor is appealing as an article. The main cover photo of UB city is also quite old and not updated. Perhaps a photo of Jayangar 4th block/Ghandinagar would be better, these areas are the true heart of the city. A photo of The Vidhan Soudha (the administrative headquarters of Karnataka, present in Bangalore) would also suffice.
45.126.205.163 (talk) 14:45, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Topic 7 -Economy MAJOR ISSUES
Most of the statistic are outdated here. Some from 2004! Bangalore economy is estimated to have grown by 1000% from 2004! Most of them are from 2014 - 15. This may not seem like much but Bangalore exports have increased by 60 % from then. Some of them are blatantly wrong stating Bangalore has GDP of $80 billion, Bangalore GDP is $110 billion plus! 45.126.205.163 (talk) 14:52, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Instead of editing , topic has been DELETED!!!45.126.205.163 (talk) 14:58, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
Universities
The NLSIU image shows up like an advertisement Wonder why only two images are up Christ is now a deemed to be university Supersaravana (talk) 05:21, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- Corrected it Shrikanthv (talk) 10:03, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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