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This revert was not appropriate. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shohei_Ohtani&diff=prev&oldid=1181439577 ("Please preview your changes, use substantial edit summaries, and consider that all these cites aren't necessary in light of the Baseball-Reference link")

First, it states a misunderstanding - that some RS-supported textual additions are "necessary," and that some are not "necessary." Clearly incorrect. Not even the article itself is necessary. Certainly, not a reason for a revert of RS-supported text.

Second, it points to information in another part of the section. But that text does not included RS-supported information that the reverted deleted. Plus, it contains incorrect information - as to where on the leaderboard the batter was in home runs.

Oddly, the reverted asked that I preview my changes. But I did. Why would they suggest otherwise. They also asked that I use "substantial edit summaries." But the edit summaries that I used were perfectly fair for the course for additions such as these, supported by RSs.

I urge that the reverter be reverted. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:F0D8:24E5:DD2C:1D8E (talk) 18:06, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Comments? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:ACC5:90EF:2806:5A6A (talk) 21:29, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Internet is abuzz with rumor that Ohtani could pick his next team as early as today. In light of that, here is some wisdom from Jon Morosi on the process. We will not update this page to reflect Ohtani's new team unless we are 100% sure that the deal is 100% completed. Please read this essay on how we handle sports transactions for more information.

Thank you all for your understanding and enjoy your weekend. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:42, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ohtani on a private jet to Toronto, huh? "Hate to Say I Told You So", alright. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:16, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Shohei signed with Dodgers 2600:1012:B171:B20E:1C16:4B21:A8E1:8FCD (talk) 20:19, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done See that section above with the Jon Morosi tweets? Remember Ohtani's flight to Toronto yesterday? Do we learn? – Muboshgu (talk) 20:22, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I wanna change his team to the Blue Jays because it was reported that he signed with the aforementioned team.--ChessGuy66 (talk) 20:36, 9 December 2023 (UTC) ChessGuy66 (talk) 20:36, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. Are you serious? You are a day behind in your news. Spanneraol (talk) 20:37, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, I meant the dodgers now.--ChessGuy66 (talk) 20:38, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I thought he signed with the Blue Jays. ChessGuy66 (talk) 20:39, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just heard he signed with the dodgers. ChessGuy66 (talk) 20:39, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You heard wrong. What you actually heard was that he "decided to choose" the Dodgers. It's not finalized yet. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:40, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

LOL. We'll make a change to the team parameters when there's a signed contract in hand. Not a "decision to choose" the Dodgers. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:39, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone else remember when Carlos Correa showed up in San Francisco for an introductory press conference merely for the Giants to back out of the deal? I do. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:47, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yep.. and considering the Angels were never all that forthcoming on Ohtani's most recent surgery... I think his physical could be very important. Spanneraol (talk) 20:51, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If he does wind up with the Dodgers though, I'm gonna take a pass through this article.. he doesn't need 5-6 paragraphs for each season. Spanneraol (talk) 20:53, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Spanneraol more like 7-10 paragraphs per season. Agree that the article can be trimmed down. Natg 19 (talk) 21:20, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

TSN now reporting that Ohtani has signed a 10-year, $700 million contract, with the Dodgers. GoodDay (talk) 20:54, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Very well, I'll update the team parameters. Spanneraol (talk) 20:55, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Muboshgu: are you sure you should be the administrator 'protecting' the page, as you've been involved in the content dispute? GoodDay (talk) 21:25, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GoodDay, I do not see a "dispute". I see a BLP issue. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:39, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Muboshgu: should temporarily be removed as administrator of the page until this unneeded edit conflict is resolved. Thanks for ruining sports Wikipedia! Jimbo Wales (talk) 21:29, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I hate Wikipedia, Jimbo! Muboshgu (talk) 21:43, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Will this TSN source do? GoodDay (talk) 21:52, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Their headline says "signed", but their article says "agreed to". This contract will take days to finalize due to its complexity, as the Morosi tweet I added above says. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:56, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Are we SERIOUSLY going to wait for confirmation from the team itself to update the page? I obviously don't want to jump the gun but literally Shohei himself and every other media source has already announced it as official. If a rare "Carlos Correa situation" were to happen again, we can always revert the page. On the 99% chance that it does stay official, this is just another example of how Wikipedia will always stay behind as long as moderators continue to be stubborn and implement such superfluous confirmation policies. KillaTrav87 (talk) 21:24, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you understand the difference between an "encyclopedia" and a "newspaper". We are the former, not the latter. We ALWAYS wait for confirmation.– Muboshgu (talk) 21:44, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Add in 2023 section: Ohtani is expected to sign a 10-year contract worth $700 million with the Los Angeles Dodgers as of December 2023.^[1] Indefensible (talk) 21:28, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Many people expect things. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:38, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Shohei Ohtani is now a member of the Los Angeles Dodgers. If you could change “free agent” to “member of the Los Angeles Dodgers.” the information would be accurate and up to date. 2600:1008:B08F:81C:6C5C:FC2D:9BD5:92B3 (talk) 21:35, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:38, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The agreement in terms been announced by his agency, Ohtani himself, and posted by the official MLB Twitter. There's significant coverage of it in The Athletic and several other high-quality outlets, like CBS Sports.

Quite frankly, we look ridiculous when Ohtani himself has stated this information. I'm confident that Ohtani freely giving out this info satisfies the guideline at WP:RSBREAKING. That said, I get that we also can't say that it's an official deal until that's confirmed by the Dodgers. Thankfully, the essay WP:SPORTSTRANS says that it is allowable to add this information to the article if "limited to prose attributed to the source that is reporting the transaction".

With all of that in mind, I would propose adding this to the body of the article:

On 9 December 2023, Ohtani announced on Instagram that he had agreed to terms on a contract with the Los Angeles Dodgers. His agency confirmed that decision. There has been no official confirmation from the Dodgers.^[2]

Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 21:58, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Change the page so he’s now a member of the Dodgers 2603:8001:2E07:2D00:48EC:1F9B:5B:A973 (talk) 22:00, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]