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United States complicity in Israeli war crimes in the Gaza war (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Essentially a WP:POVFORK of United States support for Israel in the Gaza war. The media coverage and military support sections are duplicative of their parent articles. The "context" section is duplicative of Gaza genocide. Meanwhile, the "reactions" section is a disparate grouping of opinions which are better covered in United States support for Israel in the Gaza war#Backlash to US support. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 01:43, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Ceasefire (guns-for-tickets program) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Looking up the topic shows nothing, no evidence of lasting significance PlotinusEnjoyer (talk) 18:12, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Karen White case (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There are a grand-total four sources about this individual all pertaining to this one incident. WP:BLP1E applies. Sohom (talk) 00:02, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak keep. If there was no real WP:SIGCOV after 2018, I would agree w/ nom - but there was follow-up in 2023[1] as well as several opinion columns, like this one[2]. The case has been discussed in scholarship of varying calibers[3][4][5][6][7] and is mentioned in a law textbook (pg. 774) [8]. Prison policy in the UK for trans prisoners was also seemingly changed in response to the case[9], which I think could suggest WP:IMPACT. Zzz plant (talk) 01:17, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    You are correct. This case is quoted whenever discussion around self-id and single sex spaces for women are discussed. This can be an important article once it is fleshed out by more experienced editors than me2A00:23C8:3D81:7801:852:F46:1EE9:B4CA (talk) 11:05, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify This article is still under construction. There is not enough information here yet to show or determine notability. As an article just over one hour old, it could have been moved to draft space without being brought here. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:48, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just discovered that there is an article on this topic in the Spanish section of Wikipedia. 2A00:23C8:3D81:7801:852:F46:1EE9:B4CA (talk) 17:26, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Zzz plant. The article badly needs expansion but the topic is inherently notable. Examining the WP:NEVENT criteria:
    • WP:LASTING: According to the BBC, the case influenced the UK to change its policy regarding transgender prisoners. [10]
    • WP:GEOSCOPE: The case received coverage from national media, including the Guardian [11], BBC [12], Times [13], Independent [14], Telegraph [15], and Sky News [16].
    • WP:DEPTH: In addition to straightforward reporting on the case, the Guardian published two in-depth articles about why the case happened [17] and its effects on the UK's transgender inmate policy [18].
    • WP:PERSISTENCE: As outlined by Zzz plant, the case has been taken up by multiple academic sources since White's 2018 conviction. The case has also received media coverage since then, e.g. [19] [20]
    • WP:DIVERSE: See WP:GEOSCOPE above.
Astaire (talk) 17:55, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify. New article with no real content. I agree it is notable though. But there is nothing here and for a crime involving BLPs it is an issue in its current state. PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:55, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep.Hopefully the article is much improved now. Slàinte mhath a chàirdean (talk) 23:16, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Mohammad Jorjandi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Inadequate sources for a BLP, particularly one which makes negative claims about the subject (e.g. that they were arrested and imprisoned). Omphalographer (talk) 10:20, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Thiruvananthapuram mass murder (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Seems to be a violation of WP:NOTNEWS. Unlikely to have a WP:LASTING and WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 08:48, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep For an event to be notable WP:EVENT, it must receive significant or in-depth coverage WP:INDEPTH. It has a clear cover. 5 people were fatally stabbed to death News source(s)
This is not an everyday occurrence, many editors argue that it is part of the daily routine when it comes to events happening in India, and the opinion is incorrect. A man fatally stabbing 5 people is an extraordinary event, and it has received a very remarkable response.
Articles about criminal acts, particularly those that fall within the category of breaking news, are frequently the subject of deletion discussions. As with other events, media coverage can confer notability on a high-profile criminal act, provided such coverage meets the above guidelines and those regarding reliable sources. Spworld2 (talk) 08:58, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment : We had maintained the page for the 2001 Aluva massacre, and yes, the coverage is the same for this too. WP:LASTING impact of this is going on, in the context of this incident, the Kerala Police and the Kerala High Court are going to bring a law to seize drugs. After this, the Kerala Police conducted a lot of checks, found the drug mafia [21] [22]and produced them in court[23],
Spworld2 (talk) 07:36, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
2025 Bielefeld mass shooting (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:TOOSOON for an article, no evidence of WP:LASTING coverage. EF5 14:44, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

State violence (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It's just not encyclopedic. Unbelievable POV, specious claims, pushing an inherently subjective narrative. State terrorism seems like it's doing what this one article is trying to, from a factual standpoint. This just takes that and then adds the claims that any form of borders are unacceptable violence, the American state is forcibly sterilizing minority women to maintain a white ethnostate, etc. I just don't see the need for this on an encyclopedia, when all it really is is a list of links to interesting articles on real problems, with absolutely insane commentary added. Bruhpedia (talk) 12:02, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's in a terrible state and probably needs a complete rewrite, but refs [1..3] are solidly reliable sources, all explicitly discussing "state violence". That means it's a notable thing. It doesn't appear to be a synonym of state terrorism, either. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:21, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:43, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Elias Hossain (journalist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Vanity spam, sourced to nonsense and non RS - see previous deletions as well. I'll outline more when I have access to a computer but this has been a long term spam project in terms of attempts to get an article. In any case, the subject doesn't meet even the bare requirements for notability. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 21:18, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~Comment~~ Weak keep: Recognize I'm coming here before the AFD nomination is completely filled out, but some of the sources seem to have reliable coverage:
The only other thing he appears notable for is a bunch of announcements saying he was arrested, among which one of the better ones is:
Some followup coverage of which is here:
Not sure how reliable this source is, although it exists:
This source appears to just summarize a video he made:
And this one summarizes a social media post after giving a little information on him.
Didn't search for any more, but based on what's there, it's kinda debatable -- there is 1 good source, and a bunch of not-great not-super-thorough sources covering him getting criminally charged, which might be questioned under WP:NOTNEWS. Mrfoogles (talk) 02:10, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Oblivy brought up it meets WP:BASIC and I read the article again -- it's definitely written in a promotional way and has tone issues, but (importantly) given the multiple-paragraph summary of his work in the one good source and the apparent continuing coverage in various sources of his interactions with various legal systems it seems worth a keep, if it needs a bit of a rewrite. Mrfoogles (talk) 02:13, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep. The sourcing seems to be sufficient for general notability. How the article is written isn't relevant - AfD isn't cleanup. Cortador (talk) 19:33, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as lacking significant coverage, with extremely poor sourcing. Most egregious are the basic reporting errors. He's not a journalist, he's a content creator. There's no such thing as "Queens Criminal Court": it's Kew Gardens criminal courthouse, or Queens County, Criminal Term, Supreme Court.[1] Those are just two examples of basic BLP errors riddled throughout. See WP:TNT. Bearian (talk) 03:13, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    He is described as a "former crime reporter" and someone who "reports" and generates "reporting". The Dhaka post uses the term সাংবাদিক which Google translate translates as "journalist". Financial Express calls him a "former journalist". So what exactly is your basis for saying he's not a journalist? Because he's not employed by legacy media? Do we disregard what secondary sources say because we choose to apply a more confined definition to journalist?
    Regarding the term "Queens Criminal Court" that's the term used by the Financial Express. The New York State court website uses that term. And if it's really an error fixing mistakes is easy. Oblivy (talk) 05:07, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Just to be clear, I don't think he meets WP:NJOURNALIST but he does meet WP:NBASIC. The tone of the first half of the page is not right, and some of the sourcing is poor (like everything under Early Life), but he has plenty of reputable outlets writing about him and nobody has seriously disputed that. I do think there's some argument that what this guy is getting press coverage for seems to be youtube vids about a murder in Bangladesh, and something about famous people in New York[28] and some alleged extortion[29] but I guess he'd say he's being persecuted. I'd like to see an RS citation about his prior career but I don't think that's fatal to the AfD.Oblivy (talk) 12:56, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I did not find deletion discussions at the logs for Elias Hossain (journalist), but I will note that Darkonexdo unilaterally moved Elias Hossain (which they created) out of the draftspace several times with no improvements and communication with other editors. When Elias Hossain was changed to a disambiguation page by another editor, Darkonexdo did the same thing to this article. This exact pattern of behaviour got Darkonexdo recently. So while I'm not sure what GRINCHIDICAE is referring to in regard to the deletion discussions, their claim that there is a history of attempts to have this article published is true, at least in my evaluation. Yue🌙 02:10, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Jihobbyist (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is a neologism, and does not meet our standards for it. There is actually a lot of usage of the term, but it's always referring to it in the context of its creator, and should be merged to the creator of the term, Jarret Brachman. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:57, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Ineligible for soft deletion.
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The result was keep‎. plicit 11:57, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2016 Ad Dair shooting (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable mass murder, WP:NOTNEWS Thebiguglyalien (talk) 16:43, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment searching for sources in any right to left language is really annoying, but there is continuing coverage from years after the fact (2021 2021 2021? year is weird for this source ) from established Saudi sources, including Al Watan (Saudi Arabia), CNN, etc. My issue is that these are mostly about the guy who did it being executed. There is more but searching in Arabic is difficult for me. Still, that's not nothing. Saudi Arabia does not have very many mass shootings so this seems decidedly unusual, especially in how it targeted an educational facility. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:55, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to do a more thorough search later and then decide. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:26, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PARAKANYAA, did you get around to doing a more thorough search? -- asilvering (talk) 23:59, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did, and I'm still uncertain. The coverage didn't immediately fall off, there was coverage throughout 2016, but after that it gets hard to search especially because different sources write the name of the place and the perpetrator differently. What I am looking at indicates there is probably more I am not finding but it's hard to tell. There is a non-zero amount after that but it's difficult for me to evaluate the reliability of Arabic sourcing and a lot isn't showing up in google. This seems to be viewed as a decidedly unusual crime there, and the coverage was decently in depth from what I can find, so it's not like it would be stuck as a stub forever.
I think an OK merge would be Al Dayer (which according to the saudi sources, is where this actually happened - I think ad dair is a very small town in Al Dayer? it's somewhere in that governate for sure. 2021 saudi sources say "Education Office in Al-Dayer Governorate, east of Jazan") to a history section. Seems to be one of the more significant things to have happened there (at least enough to be reported internationally). Preferential to merge unless additional sourcing is found, but otherwise weak keep. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:15, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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