• Aeris_Communications,_Inc. – Since the previous page was a copyright failure the deletion isn't getting overturned. Secondly, Wikipedia has hardened its views on promotional text and conflicts of interest over recent years and the company needs to get the message that this is a project of unpaid volunteers to create an encylopedia not a free advertising site. Officers of a company have no business writing puff piece articles here. If you seriously believe your company meets the inclusion standard then take your request to Articles for Creation and get the draft looked at by an independent editor for advice on tone, content and notability. Then, and only then will we be ready to host something. Note that this a a top 10 website and anything negative or underhand by the company will show up on the first page of google seaching so play it properly. – Spartaz Humbug! 05:41, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
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Some years ago, this page was deleted because of stated copyright violations of the company's web site at http://www.aeris.net.

Unfortunately, I had not noted that this had occurred till considerably later. I attempted to contact the administrator who had deleted the page, but did not get any response to my request.

Recently, I was reminded that this page was still not back in place. Therefore, I am re-asking here for a restoral. Here are the reasons for this request:

1. The page was created and edited at various times by Nancy Levin and Syed Zaeem Hosain (i.e., myself) - both employees of Aeris Communications at the time.

2. Nancy was the Marketing person who also wrote much of the content on the Aeris web site home page. Naturally, there appeared to be considerable similarity in the information, since the same person was responsible for the content on both the Wikipedia page and the Aeris web site.

3. I also provided content at various times for that page. I am a Founder and still the Chief Technical Officer of the company.

4. In my previous communication with the administrator (when the page deletion was noted), I observed that as an officer of the company, I could easily "authorize" use of the text that was believed to be in copyright violation - with whatever supporting letters were needed for this purpose.

5. Unfortunately, I did not receive any response to that request.

6. Most importantly, at this point, the current Aeris web site: http://www.aeris.net has changed substantially over the past four years, and even the old Wikipedia page on Aeris is no longer possible to be interpreted as a copyright violation of the current site.

Therefore, I am asking for the Wikipedia page to be restored so that I can edit and fix the content - with attribution that meets Wikipedia requirements, as necessary.

If this is not possible, then I request that the page be restored as a blank page perhaps, so that I can create new content that meets requirements.

If you need verification of my identity, I can be reached at "Syed.Hosain at aeris.net". My blog noting my name is at Blog Link.

Here is the current web site link to the page where a link to the PDF shows me as an officer of the company: http://www.aeris.com/aeris-news/media-kit/

I hope you will consider this request for restoral and make it happen, or certainly allow the page to be restored for me to create new content. And I would appreciate notification at "Syed.Hosain at aeris.net" when this is done.

Thanks much!

P.S: I am not sure how to leave a notification at the talk page for the administrator - I did not see a place where I could cleanly leave a message without messing up the information he/she has on it currently: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ERcheck.

Z (talk) 17:19, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The state of the current site has no bearing on if it would be a copyvio or not, if it was a copyvio then, then it still is. A release would of course fix that. However I suggest you read our conflict of interest guidelines and refrain from directly editing the page. If it was an apparent copyvio of the original web site, there is a good chance it won't be suitable content for wikipedia anyway. --62.254.139.60 (talk) 18:57, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • @User:Szhosain. Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials is actually a bit premature and of course, really doesn't answer your questions. Unfortunately, User:ERcheck has not been actively editing Wikipedia since December 2012. The first thing I recommend is reading the guidelines pertaining to Conflicts of Interest. Once you have done that, request an email copy of the previously deleted article from an administrator, explaining that the deleting administrator is no longer active. There is no need to blank the content from Aeris Communications, Inc., since there is no existing article under that name. (And article naming conventions would not include the suffix.) Once you receive an email copy of the deleted article, compare it with the organization's web site content to determine what, if anything you wish to change. Then simply create a draft of the new article at User:Szhosain/Aeris Communications. 1. If the newly drafted article does not contain content protected by copyright, simply come back here, let us know that you would like to create an article for Aeris Communications, which was previously deleted due to copyright violations. Provide a link to the newly drafted article to ensure administrators that the new article is free of copyright violations. If there are no copyright violations, make sure to (at the very least) indicate how the company is significant or important. Prior to requesting permission to recreate the article, I highly recommend establishing notability, by providing significant coverage in reliable and independent sources. At the same time, make sure that the article is not presented to merely promote awareness of the organization. Make sure to maintain neutrality at all times. And again, read, review, and become familiar with the Conflict of Interest guidelines. 2. If you draft your new article and choose to use close paraphrasing or content protected by copyright from the organization's web site, make sure to follow the instructions for donating content to Wikipedia. Keep in mind that we cannot allow copyright violations even in the sandbox. Make it very clear at the top of your draft that you have followed the process for donating content to Wikipedia and have forwarded release of the content to the OTRS team. Then come back here, identify yourself as a founder and Chief Technical Officer of the company. Let us know that you have recreated an article for Aegis Communications, you have followed the procedure for donating content to Wikipedia and have sent the OTRS team a release (permission to use) the content on Wikipedia. Provide a link to your newly drafted article, then request permission to move the article to the mainspace. When the article is back in the mainspace, please make sure to declare yourself as a {{connected contributor}} to future editors and readers of the article, by placing a notice on the article's talk page. Keep in mind that while editing with a Conflict of Interest is not forbidden, at the same time, it's not recommended, since most editors find it very difficult to maintain neutrality. If you have additional questions, please feel free to contact me anytime. Best regards, Cindy(need help?) 19:13, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse deletion Not sure about a new article, but we really can't have the previous one coming back even if the copyvio aspect is cleared up, it was a very clear advertisement with straight-from-a-brochure phrases like "Since 1992, Aeris has provided superior reliability, higher quality coverage, lower latency, and unsurpassed customer support and managed services." Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 02:09, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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