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The result was keep. Consensus seems clear that it is significant enough, and sufficiently sourced DGG ( talk ) 21:16, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Unsourced article about a restaurant chain. Contested prod, so bringing here for discussion. Despite searching, I could not find articles or book that substantially cover the chain. Sparthorse (talk) 09:42, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I can't find any coverage of any note either. With a name like that it should be fairly easy to find, if it existed. Sionk (talk) 09:02, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and Improve. I would give this very new article the benefit of the doubt for now. There are lots of google hits, but someone (not me!) needs to sort through all the promotional and user-generated material and extract something independent and reliable. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 10:35, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Per availability of reliable sources:

• Ellis, Mike (January 1, 2009). "Fans root on New Year's Day for losing South Carolina football teams". Independent Mail. Retrieved December 5, 2011. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help); Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
• Morrison, Alexander (September 10, 2006). "Drink Specials: S.C. Law Forces Bars, Nightclubs to Change Their Pouring". Herald-Journal. Retrieved December 5, 2011. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
• "Charlotte Restaurant Surrenders Liquor License". Wsoctv.com. May 13, 2005. Retrieved December 5, 2011. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)
• Gorsegner, Michael (February 5, 2006). "Local Fans Cheer On Super Bowl". Newsplex.com (Gray Television, Inc.). Retrieved December 5, 2011. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)
• Eckstein, Sandy (October 9, 2008). "On our list: The Wild Wing Cafe, Havana Restaurant & Cafe". The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Retrieved December 5, 2011. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
• Ware, Lisa (August 24, 2011). "Top three Asheville, NC, bars to watch the NFL". Yahoo Sports. Retrieved December 5, 2011. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help)
• "Out To Lunch". Charlotte Observer. January 9, 2004. Retrieved December 5, 2011. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
• "Wings Land at Ayrsley, Wild Wings Cafe Joins Southwest Devemopment". Charlotte Observer. October 8, 2002. Retrieved December 5, 2011.

—Northamerica1000^(talk) 13:02, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - not a single one of those hits establish notability, only verification that the chain exists. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 19:43, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - How so? Northamerica1000^(talk) 10:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • They are not about the subject, but instead only mention it in passing. That does not establish notability per the standards. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 17:23, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:18, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:18, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - I myself know that this is a real chain as it is prevalent mainly in the south-east U.S. The above articles reference that. I find it hard to believe that there is nothing of note that comes up on Google. Mjohn127 (talk) 17:27, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep- Wild Wing Cafe is known in many areas for their variety of wing flavors. Many families go to Wild Wing Cafe on a weekly or daily basis. Wild Wing Cafe hosts many bands and radio stations including ESPN. Those who frequent Wild Wing Cafe would like to see it's notability recognized and have users collaborate on their knowledge of the franchise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pshelby17 (talk • contribs) 18:25, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - After a search of Google I moved on to Nation's Restaurant News, the New York Times and other industry specific search sources - none of which have any links to articles about the chain. Like Northamerica I found many instance where the is mentioned or reviewed, thus establishing that the subject is verifiable; however I found nothing that establishes why the chain is notable. There was not a single article that was about the chain 10-15 pages into any of my searches (about three hundred fifty total links examined). Aside from anecdotal evidence, this chain shows no notability. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 20:01, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Might as well delete all restaurant chain article's that aren't the majors, such as McDonalds, Burger King, Dominos, etc., then. Northamerica1000^(talk) 11:07, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not necessarily, local and regional press counts when establishing notability (only if it is not a review), the thing is that this chain gets no mention in major publications. Similar sized chains have and do often recieve coverage in major media, It is I could find nothing of substance that establishes notability. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 17:26, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: a 34 unit chain of restaurants is almost definitely notable, see, e.g., Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Happy's Pizza. It might take a little more searching, but once I found a copy of the March 2003 profile of the chain in Hilton Head Weekly on the restaurant's own website, you can find that Cecil Crowley was the founder, and you get more results when looking for him. I am sure there are other things we can search on as well.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 21:06, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete not notable. 34 units of a generic chain does not make something notable in my book. --Legis (talk - contribs) 08:52, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment – An assessment of the actual sources would be helpful for this discussion, rather than a quantification of stores as a basis to erase an article from Wikipedia. Northamerica1000^(talk) 16:19, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, that !vote should be taken out and shot. If one looks at the sources added to the article since the nomination, the notability is clear.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 23:19, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep They have over 30 locations, so yeah, they are obviously notable in their field. Google news archive search shows 380 results. I don't see any reason to bother going through them though, since notability has clearly been estalished by way of common sense. Dream Focus 19:57, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep With over 30 locations in several states, this chain obviously is doing well. --DThomsen8 (talk) 20:29, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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