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Ireland is not a "British" isle

the term is a colonial and outdated one having been dug up from (by even then) archaic sources by one John Dee - an advisor to Elizabeth I of England, and who advocated for the colonisation of Ireland. Today it has no official standing and has no more relevance to Ireland than the term British East Africa has to modern day Kenya. And as such needs to be be kept in the dustbin of history where it belongs 109.78.105.250 (talk) 12:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is a geographical term for a group of islands. Nothing colonial here. The Banner talk 12:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The now archaic term as detailed is colonial both in origin and use from the 1600s onwards. Denial doesn't change that regardless 51.37.111.212 (talk) 10:57, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Denial doesn't change the fact that it's absolutely a common geographical term, still in use in Ireland and elsewhere. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 11:04, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Best we keep using it. GoodDay (talk) 13:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
yes 2402:E000:60A:656B:0:0:0:1 (talk) 19:15, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Best according to whom exactly - the same small number of self serving editors? 64.43.20.57 (talk) 01:42, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, these people. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 12:41, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Best we keep using it. Denisarona (talk) 06:14, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
British Isles is an internationally recognised geographical term. It is used in educational textbooks in Canada, United States, Australia, New Zealand etc.
It's also in common use in Ireland, ignoring those whose lives revolve around politics
Celebrity Cruises.IE
https://www.celebritycruises.com/ie/destinations/european-cruises/british-isles-cruise
AirBnB Ireland
https://www.airbnb.ie/british-isles/stays/islands
I could go on but I can't be bothered.
It's common use in Ireland and ubiquitous use outside of Ireland. And, mind you, the 'revolt' against the term hasn't begun until Sinn Fein's recent electoral successes. 145.40.150.167 (talk) 22:28, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@145.40.150.167 citing a cruise website and Airbnb is a new low, please remove the term its offensive, to the history of Ireland.
A replacement term of IONA Ialands of the North Atlantic is much more inclusive. Daryl Mulvihill (talk) 07:34, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Read the rest of the page, and the archives. It's used by a lot more than AirBnB and some cruise site. You'll find, e.g., the link to the search results returned solely from gov.ie websites. The term is offensive to you, not to "the history of Ireland". We won, remember? IONA is mentioned here, but its use is tiny (possibly because it's offensive to Iceland, Greenland, and the Canaries, among others). BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 08:27, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is deeply disheartening when editors fail to properly evaluate evidence and persist in framing the world through their own cultural biases. The perspectives on this issue are clear: For most British people, the term is claimed to be purely geographical because they seem to have been told repeatedly in school that that is the case even though "from the very beginning, the expression “British Isles” was a deliberate attempt to give geographic legitimacy to the political ambitions of an expansionist English state"[1]. Among Irish people, the term is generally seen as wholly unacceptable. For people who understand the word "British", the term is clearly political. The Irish government’s official stance is that the term is neither used nor considered appropriate. Joint documents issued by the British and Irish governments affirm that the term is not acceptable, favoring alternatives such as “these islands.” The British government itself acknowledges that the term holds no official status. The evidence is clear; the term is contentious and disputed. Despite this, editors based in Britain continue to champion its use on Wikipedia, disregarding the controversy and the availability of more neutral alternatives. Why? Search for any reputable Irish publication, e.g. the Irish Times or the Journal and "British Isles" and every result is about how it's not appropriate: https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/the-british-isles-1.26569 https://www.thejournal.ie/is-ireland-british-isles-northern-ireland-europe-islands-1140112-Oct2013/ https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2005-09-28/495/ https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio/2023/03/12/wild-isles-quibbles-about-our-british-isles-melt-away-in-the-face-of-david-attenboroughs-passion/ https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/opinion-to-say-britishness-is-authentic-while-denying-irishness-is-quaffing-ones-own-kool-aid-too-deeply-3276952-Mar2017/ Jamesnp (talk) 17:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Considering this is a page ablut Ireland could we not use something not controversial? The Irish government do not recognise the term British Isles (aka the government that makes up like 75% of the area), and on the good Friday agreement it was also not used and "these islands" wete used instead. How about wr just use Britain and Ireland? Its not controversial. MossWoodMetric (talk) 21:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not censored; we don't shy away from controversy, we merely reflect what reliable sources say and use the most common name they use - which, in this case, is British Isles whether we like it or not. WaggersTALK 10:54, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2025

2A02:C7C:62B2:2300:CC43:AAD3:C89B:865C (talk) 19:34, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It’s called the republic of Ireland because the north is a part of the UK

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 21:59, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 13 February 2025

Grammer Correction Change in the province on Connacht. to in the province of Connacht. Bunnybob (talk) 13:28, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done PianoDan (talk) 15:55, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2025

105.119.5.30 (talk) 02:53, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bankruptcy 105.119.5.30 (talk) 02:54, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 03:21, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Races and Ethnic Groups

The “Ethnic groups” section of the infobox is displaying races, not ethnic groups… this is the dumbest mistake I’ve ever seen on Wikipedia so far. White is not an ethnic group, neither is Asian, those are races. Irish is an ethnic group. Scottish is an ethnic group. English is an ethnic group! FIX IT NOW! Whoever added that must’ve not seen the Republic of Ireland’s source itself separates “Asian Irish - Chinese” from “Asian Irish - any other Asian background” which means that it acknowledges Chinese as an ethnic group. So either display it the way the source put it by adding “White Irish”, “Any other White background” or change “Ethnic groups” to “Races”

And if the source is making a mistake, you can fix it for them, what’s the problem? KurdîSerbexo (talk) 09:14, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is an article about the island and uses statistics from its two administrations' censuses as reliable sources. One of those considers "White" to be an ethnicity in its own right; the other divides that into four subgroup, all under "White". They both include other ethnicities in a similar manner (e.g. "Black"). Neither have "English" or "Scottish" as an ethnicity, and neither use the ambiguous and discredited concept of"race", which you may have misunderstood the meaning of. Bazza 7 (talk) 10:23, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Turns out they are using the discredited concept of race. The sources either have have mistaken race for ethnicity or are just deliberately categorizing everyone into races and calling it "ethnic groups" for some reason, especially the Northern Irish census and to an extent also the Republic of Ireland's census. That isn't our problem and we cannot resolve it so... Sorry for bugging you guys by creating this useless topic! KurdîSerbexo (talk) 16:10, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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