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Count of DYK Hooks
Section	# of Hooks	# Verified
December 28	1
January 8	1
January 10	2
January 12	2
January 13	1
January 15	1
January 21	4
January 22	3
January 23	1
January 24	2
January 25	2
January 26	2
January 27	2
January 28	1
January 30	3
January 31	1
February 1	1
February 2	1
February 3	3
February 4	7	7
February 5	9	6
February 6	9	8
February 7	6	6
February 8	6	6
February 9	8	7
February 10	10	7
February 11	8	7
February 12	15	11
February 13	15	9
February 14	14	9
February 15	12	6
February 16	10	8
February 17	12	7
February 18	12	8
February 19	9	5
February 20	11	8
February 21	16	11
February 22	7	7
February 23	6	1
February 24	8
February 25	3
February 26	4
February 27	4
February 28	5
March 1	4
March 2	2
March 3	1
March 4	1
Total	268	144
Last updated 02:39, 4 March 2025 UTC Current time is 03:47, 4 March 2025 UTC [refresh]

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Handy copy sources:

• Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
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• Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

• ... that on May 5, 2017, the 7th Marine Brigade (pictured) captured three Somali pirates and handed them in to the Somali authorities?

• Reviewed:
• Comment: The draft was made by me, User:Buckshot06 published it for me

Additionally 7th Marine Brigade is an alternate name for the Special Operations Brigade (PLA Navy Marine Corps), also known as the Jiaolong commandos as of nominating it for Dyk, the article was published exactly 7 days ago so if i have to may I request the 7 day limit be extended

Thehistorianisaac (talk) 13:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Note: I have replaced the word "police" in Thehistorianissac's potential hook with the word "authorities." There is no single Somali Police - most are a bunch of clan militia; most are a total mishmash of various feuding armed groups. The information available is not sufficient to even guarantee that the persons concerned were handed over to the Somali Federal Police, the bunch that exploits and rapaciously profits from the security needs of the inhabitants of Mogadishu. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:05, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Buckshot06 or Thehistorianisaac, the link in the hook should be in bold text. Also, if this hasn't been reviewed by Friday next week, ping me and I'll review it. Toadspike [Talk] 16:03, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

{{Buckshot06}} There is a {{cn}} tag in the article and the third paragraph of History deserves another. Please fix these. When you've done that, ping me and I will review this.--Launchballer 18:21, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - Date issue, see below.
• Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Gonna list a few things here, apologize for the rapid-fire writing style. I believe no QPQ is required, as neither nominator has nominated 5 DYKs. Is there a source for the claim that the soldier in the picture is a member of this unit? As the article is currently written, it is unclear if the April 2017 and 5 May 2017 incidents are the same or not. SCMP says they are, this should be clarified. The article also claims that the pirates were handed over to the Somali Police Force, when the description of the CGTN source says they were handed over to the "semi-autonomous northern region of Puntland" – Buckshot correctly adjusted this to "Somali authorities" in the DYK hook but the article text needs to be updated too. Toadspike [Talk] 20:31, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Buckshot06 and Thehistorianisaac, please see the review above and ping me once these issues are adressed. Launchballer, apologies for stealing the review – I started it earlier today only saw your comment when I caused an edit conflict while trying to publish it. Toadspike [Talk] 20:35, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Buckshot06 and Thehistorianisaac: Please address the above.--Launchballer 02:54, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Will do, quite busy recently Thehistorianisaac

@Thehistorianisaac: It's been a week without progress. I will close this if it isn't addressed in the next week.--Launchballer 04:10, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: addressed hook citation issues already; any other issues I need to address? Thehistorianisaac Talk 6:14, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

@Launchballer:, you were pinged by the nom over a week ago, any comments? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 06:11, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I was rather hoping @Toadspike: would interject. I'll have an actual look at this later.--Launchballer 06:17, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@@Thehistorianisaac: Thank you for the updates. It looks like the article now cites CGTN even more than it did before. It also cites this Baidu link, which is dead. Could you please fix both of these? Toadspike [Talk] 13:30, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure Baidu is reliable per WP:BAIDUBAIKE.--Launchballer 13:39, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I did not really add new citations; that baidu link is just a website accessed through Baidu, not Baidubaike

I'll take your word for it as I don't speak Chinese; I only mentioned it because it came up red on WP:UPSD. You still have Toadspike's concerns to assuage.--Launchballer 17:59, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Thehistorianisaac: Please address @Toadspike:'s concerns.--Launchballer 03:56, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Baidu link is removed; CGTN I will try finding if we can remove related citations Thehistorianisaac

@Launchballer:@Toadspike: - I removed the CGTN source. The removing CCTV source is allowed per this discussion as only CGTN is blacklisted, non-CGTN CCTV sources are allowed - Thehistorianisaac (talk) 21/2/2025

@Thehistorianisaac footnote 2 is still a CGTN source. Toadspike [Talk] 07:40, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's a Chinese MOD source and a CGTN source at the same time. Will add the link to external links instead of sources Thehistorianisaac talk

@Toadspike: removed it from sources and moved it to further reading instead. Thehistorianisaac|Thehistorianisaac

Toadspike, is everything set now, or does more need to be done? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:54, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(De-indent) Thanks for the ping, BlueMoonset. Thehistorianisaac's ping didn't work because they had a | instead of a : in their signature. The source quality looks much better now – some of these wouldn't fly at FAC but are good enough for DYK. I have also moved ref 13 to cover the uncited sentence at the end of the paragraph, since the source contains that information. The article itself is now properly cited.

I still have a few questions, though:

1. This image was used by Wood in OE Watch and by The National Interest (based heavily on the OE Watch article) as an image of this unit, but the shoulder insignia looks like File:People's Liberation Army Special Operations Forces sleeve badge.svg, not the Jiaolong insignia. Are we sure the image is of the right unit?
2. The SCMP source and Wood only give "April 2017" as the operation date. The SCMP source also says "It was not entirely clear when the three pirates were captured, but contemporary media reports said they were handed over to Somali authorities sometime later." Wood does not mention capturing pirates. I am okay using the vague SCMP claim for the hook (though I will note that reasonable reviewers could disagree) but the date should be given as only "April 2017".
3. I feel like the Yemen evacuation might make a better hook, so I am proposing:

ALT1: ...that the 7th Marine Brigade (pictured) helped evacuate over 700 people from Yemen?

Source: Wood, Peter (August 2018). "The Emergence of the PLA Navy's "Jiaolong" Commando Unit" (PDF). OE Watch. 8 (8). Foreign Military Studies Office. Archived (PDF) from the original on 25 April 2021. I'm requesting another reviewer take a look at this hook, since I cannot review my own hook. Toadspike [Talk] 08:04, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You'd need an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 08:13, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Toadspike:: for no 1, the Jiaolong commandos are the only spec ops unit of the chinese navy; as for the sleeve badge i think it is used similar to qualification pins in the US military; As for the SCMP source this is backed up by the other sources, and the yemen hook i think would also do well

@Thehistorianisaac and Toadspike: You'd need one fairly quickly, as WP:DYKTIMEOUT applies from tomorrow.--Launchballer 10:01, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Indonesians elected Alien as a representative, twice? Source: https://news.detik.com/berita/d-4546028/pleno-di-maluku-utara-prabowo-menang-pilpres-pdip-menang-pileg-dprd#!, https://nasional.kompas.com/read/2024/08/26/09300991/daftar-para-caleg-dpr-2024-2029-terpilih-yang-ditetapkan-kpu?page=all
  • ALT1: ... that Alien worked as a public relations officer before entering politics?
  • ALT2: ... that Alien is the member of a political family?
  • ALT3A: ... that Alien is married to a French citizen?
  • ALT3B: ... that a French citizen is married to Alien?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WMRT
  • Comment: Credits to Juxlos for the hook. Submitted for this year's AFD.

Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:36, 10 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Proposing a slight tweak of ALT0 – Reidgreg (talk) 14:28, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT0A: ... that Indonesians twice elected an Alien from Golkar as a representative?
• @Jeromi Mikhael: Per new rules, QPQs should be provided before or at nom, so please provide one ASAP or this will be closed without warning. ミラP@Miraclepine 17:37, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• @Miraclepine:  Done Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 22:50, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Given that April 1 entries are allowed to screw around with formatting a little for the sake of the joke, I strongly recommend that in this context we refer to Ms. Mus as "an Alien". Otherwise it just sounds broken. (Indefinite articles do go with personal names - "in my office, I work with three Steves and a Cindy", e.g., so it;ll work here.) DS (talk) 21:03, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This does not even have to be saved for 1 April. They are normal hooks, just very good. Surtsicna (talk) 15:24, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Tried to spot check some of the sourcing with Google translate and it seems good. Article new enough, QPQ good. I think "an Alien" is a good idea but will leave that up to the promoter. Nihil obstat ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:26, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've pulled this per the complaint at WP:ERRORS. We're not running a hook just to make fun of somebody's name. RoySmith (talk) 10:44, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the "widely debated book" Eurowhiteness exposes the European Union's internal contradictions?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Luo Shiwen

(t · c) buidhe 09:55, 10 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• You have to be very careful when referring to things that don't have physical existence like "internal contradictions". Who says the EU has any? Is it Kundnani, writing the book? Is it Auer, reviewing Kundnani? Is it you, user:Buidhe, paraphrasing Auer? DS (talk) 18:12, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Abstract concepts like "internal contradictions" may be different from concrete objects, but that doesn't mean they don't factually exist—WP says they do if RS agree. While researching the article, I found many sources agreeing and none disagreeing that the EU has some internal contradictions. Per WP:NPOV, "Avoid stating facts as opinions"—and there is no reason to believe that it is not factually true other than your skepticism. (t · c) buidhe 03:40, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • I don't want this to be a debate on either euroskepticism or materialism, but which contradictions are those? Can you cite your sources? What if someone disagrees with your flat statement that contradictions exist? Does Kundnani use the term 'contradictions' in the book, or Auer use them in the review, or is that your interpretation? DS (talk) 19:08, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • "Internal contradictions" is the exact phrase used by Auer, but that should not matter because we are encouraged to paraphrase from sources anyway. There are so many sources that say the EU has internal contradictions (please do your own research rather than making assumptions that may be incorrect) that it would certainly be a POV violation to suggest this is just one person's opinion. The only potential objection I can see to the hook is that it's not hook worthy, because all political systems contain conflicting values and interests, leading to internal contradictions (for example, name a political party that doesn't engage in hypocrisy). (t · c) buidhe 19:37, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're assuming the validity of the book's political stance, and instead of citing your sources, you're telling me to do my own research. What happens if my research leads me to a political stance that disagrees with (you / the book)? DS (talk) 22:34, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I fundamentally disagree with your approach of conflating facts stated in many reliable sources with a "political stance" and discounting such facts on the basis of your own personal disagreement. Please bring some sources that we could discuss (preferably not cherry picked) or stop commenting. (t · c) buidhe 04:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please cite your sources. "There are internal contradictions in the European Union" is not objectively true or false. You're the one claiming they exist, so the burden of proof is on you. What if we said "the book misleadingly suggests that the EU has contradictions"? What if we said "the book boldly reveals that the EU has contradictions" ? Both sentences are equally true. DS (talk) 04:47, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• The sources are already cited in the article. Neither the article nor the proposed hook use the kind of loaded language you suggest here, which would be prohibited by our style guide. (t · c) buidhe 04:52, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I should also point out that it's an unsalvageably boring hook. What else you got? DS (talk) 18:15, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This back and forth is clearly going nowhere and no actual review was performed, so I'm requesting another editor's attention. (t · c) buidhe 21:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• New enough: yes. Long enough: yes. Article is neutral: it needs some work. Copyvio check: 23%, which is fine. Article is presentable: yes. QPQ: yes. Hook is cited: yes. Hook is short enough: yes. Hook is interesting: not even close. Do you have anything else? DS (talk) 04:50, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• You are not "another editor". You are the same editor as before. Please do not verbally bludgeon the nominator by belaboring yourself. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 09:42, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Buidhe: I am willing to review the hook, albeit not this second (later today or tomorrow, if that's alright). In the meantime, I'd ask that you resolve the yellow-level orphan tag. Perhaps there's an article with a "Further reading" or "See also" section where linking this page would be suitable. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 09:42, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks... De orphaned. (t · c) buidhe 17:07, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Hydrangeans: Please address the above.--Launchballer 03:59, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Buidhe: @Launchballer: I'm very sorry for the discourtesy of my long absence from this hook after saying I would review it. Unfortunately, due to other circumstances, I will not be able to complete this review. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 00:26, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• New reviewer needed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:57, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Buidhe: Article attributes, hook doesn't. If we're going to run it, the hook would need to attribute, but let's hear what other hooks you have.--Launchballer 10:03, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: which part needs to be attributed in your view? The review section does quote and attribute statements to specific reviewers to give the reader a gist of each review, but some of that (including the hook, imv) could also be written in wiki voice since it is not disputed. I've done similar hooks in the past without objection. (t · c) buidhe 02:42, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Nitty Gritty Dirt Band was the first American musical act to tour in the Soviet Union?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eritha (2nd nomination)

Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:23, 11 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Good to go. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:10, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

this was pulled per discussion at WT:DYK#Queue 5 (15 February 12:00) pending additional work on the hook wording. RoySmith (talk) 16:21, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TenPoundHammer: Please address the above.--Launchballer 09:51, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: How about ...that before Jim Photoglo joined Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, he wrote their single "Fishin' in the Dark"? Source: https://www.kmuw.org/music/2019-03-20/the-nitty-gritty-dirt-band-celebrates-new-members-new-notes — Preceding unsigned comment added by TenPoundHammer (talk • contribs) 17:54, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging Launchballer, since previous ping would not have gone through due to the lack of a sig at the time the edit was made. (Also adding missing sig.) BlueMoonset (talk) 00:54, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You suggested a similar hook at the above WT:DYK link. If you're alright with the following, based on that hook:

ALT1: ... that Jim Photoglo wrote the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's "Fishin' in the Dark" and joined the band – almost 30 years later?

I'll approve this.--Launchballer 08:52, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Archbishop William says that the land on which the Hospital of St. John was built was granted by a Shi'ite caliph?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dorotea Wilson

Surtsicna (talk) 17:37, 14 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• I'll take this one. --Muhandes (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• The article is new enough and long enough. It seems well-sourced and neutral. The article is entirely sourced to offline sources, so I cannot say anything about plagiarism, but it seems unlikely.

However, the guidelines require that I verify the basic facts, or at the very least, the existence of the article subject. This, of course, led me to Knights Hospitaller, or the Order of Knights of the Hospital of Saint John of Jerusalem. The relation is not even mentioned in this new article but the first paragraph of Knights Hospitaller#Foundation and early history includes pretty much the same material about the early establishment as this entire new article. I think this omission and confusion needs to be addressed before this subject can appear on DYK. Either this new article need to discuss the continuing history of the hospital, which remained under the same name but different hosts at least until the 13th century (see for example this source which is about the hospital but only says "... since citizens from Amalfi had already operated a facility for accommodating pilgrims at this site under the patronage of St. John") or maybe the new article needs to be merged, since I'm not sure this earlier establishment, which we know so little about, even qualifies for of a separate article.

While I think the above is a substantial issue which needs to be handled first, I'll also address the hook. First, the article does not mention Archbishop William, nor does it say anything about a Shi'ite caliph. Is there a reason not to use the language used in the article, naming William of Tyre and a Fatimid caliph? As for the sourcing, it mentions the "caliph of Egypt", but says nothing about him being Fatimid. Is there some extra reading required? --Muhandes (talk) 23:10, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the review, Muhandes. The article does not yet meet the DYK standard of comprehensiveness. It appears that Borsoka has not yet finished it. It had to be nominated within 7 days of creation, however. If the article is not completed soonish, the nomination cannot pass. We'll see. Surtsicna (talk) 23:40, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Borsoka and Surtsicna: Please address the above.--Launchballer 04:00, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I decided years ago that I would not be involved in DYKs in any way. I have not changed my mind. Borsoka (talk) 04:48, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Surtsicna Are you OK with rejecting this DYK? I think a merge proposal will follow. --Muhandes (talk) 14:03, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that transgender health care misinformation has been used to justify legislative restrictions on minor's transgender health care in the United States and United Kingdom?

• Reviewed:

Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 00:03, 14 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Comment - a careful reading of the source shows that the main hook is not explicitly verified. The source says that misinformation has led to policy restrictions on health care for transgender people in the U.S. (instead of minors' transgender health care in the United States and United Kingdom). The source does go on to discuss bans on gender-affirming care for minors and misinformation continues to impact support for these bans, but then misinformation has been used to justify legislative restrictions is not verified, and the support is not clarified as legislative support or public support. What would be verified is that transgender health care misinformation has been used to justify legislative restrictions on transgender health care in the United States. In any case, a peer reviewed source would be better than the non-profit Kaiser Family Foundation. Also, there is a questionable sentence in the lede to clear up and stuff about Australia too. starship.paint (talk / cont) 13:40, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hows ALT1 ...that transgender health care misinformation, such as the claim most pre-pubertal transgender children "desist", has been used to justify legislative restrictions on minor's transgender health care? [1] Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 16:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Quick comment: this is a much better source (accessible by WP:TWL, but I think more elaboration is needed for the above (i.e. desist from what? gender dysphoria / wanting to transition) but the hook has no space for it. I'd propose the below based on this source, but the below hook content will need to be added to the Wikipedia article. starship.paint (talk / cont) 14:42, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Perhaps ...that legislative bans on minor's transgender health care have been justified with transgender health care misinformation such as the "desistance myth"?[2] Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • The term "desistance myth" does not appear in the McNamara source (the only mention of myth is in the references) cited above. The term "desistance myth" appears in the Natacha Kennedy source, which at a quick glance doesn't seem to discuss legislative bans. Hence, the above hook would be WP:SYNTH. starship.paint (talk / cont) 14:53, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 ... that transgender health care misinformation has been used by authorities in the American states of Alabama, Florida and Texas to justify legislative restrictions on minors' transgender health care? [3] starship.paint (talk / cont) 14:42, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I've got two issues with this ALT. 1) I think it's important to include some specific piece of misinfo 2) The scope seems way too narrow relative to the article - We have the endocrine society saying 18 states banned GAC based on misinfo in 2023[4] and the APA et al saying misinformation about ROGD was involved in many of over 100 proposed anti-trans bills in 2021 [5] - seems weird to pick out 3 states when 26 now ban care. Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, I only picked out 3 states because that's what kind of what that particular source did (picked out 4 states in particular, but the character count only could fit 3). starship.paint (talk / cont) 08:24, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, ALT3 ... that due to transgender health care misinformation, over 18 states in the United States banned gender-affirming care for minors in 2023, encompassing over 30% of trans children in the country?[6] Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I'd like to workshop ALT1 with you because I do think having a specific example would be educational and a good hook, however, this hook is really engaging as well, better covers the scope of the issue, and with a top tier source that's also more accessible! Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist: - ALT3 has a bunch of information not from the source, you really should be more careful not to go beyond what the source says. (a) Source says 18, not "over 18". (b) Source says "gender-affirming care ... even restricting transgender and gender-diverse adults’ access to care", not "gender-affirming care for minors". (c) Source is from 2023, but it doesn't say "in 2023", so maybe the bans could be in 2022 or earlier. (d) Source says "30 percent of the nation’s transgender and gender-diverse youth", not "30% of trans children". (e) Source attributes 30% figure to Human Rights Campaign, so it's not the source's own voice, but you used Wikivoice. (f) Source doesn't explicitly say that the 30% come from the 18 states, logically there could be more states that banned, maybe not from misinformation, but your "encompassing over 30%" directly links the 18 states to the 30%. Having six issues in only one sentence really does not spark confidence (is the rest of the article of the same quality?!) - and should really spark reflection on why this happened. Even more concerning that this came about after I pointed out inaccuracies in the original hook compared to the source! starship.paint (talk / cont) 08:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • If I were to write ALT3, I would avoid the part attributed to Human Rights Campaign ALT3A ... that due to transgender health care misinformation, 18 states in the United States had banned gender-affirming care by 2023? [7] starship.paint (talk / cont) 08:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • I support this one, with the addition of "for minors". Saying 18 states banned it without clarifying they mostly only affected kids is unintentionally misleading. There's also a newer statement from them that says misinformation about gender-affirming care is being politicized. In the United States, 24 states have enacted laws or policies barring adolescents’ access to gender-affirming care, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. In seven states, the policies also include provisions that would prevent at least some adults over age 18 from accessing gender-affirming care.[8] - While the 24 is attributed to the KFF, they are a major healthcare provider and generally reliable for healthcare laws by state I'd say. If we want, we could also use the note that 7 restricted it for adults as well. Responding to point F as it's still relevant, the position of every major medical org in America is that gender-affirming care bans are unscientific and based on misinfo - hypothesizing that some aren't goes into fringe territory. I think we could probably use 2-3 sources to make a composite hook, one from the Endocrine society saying such bans are based on misinformation, perhaps the APA one saying the same, and then a news source for the end of 2024 count of state bans (since medical societies don't update their statements's ban count each time a new one is introduced). Best, Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 17:23, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist: - I don't think your Endocrine source has made it explicit enough to support what you want it to say. We should never need to assume anything. What you are claiming to be a composite hook is simply WP:SYNTHESIS. What you want is a reliable source that explicitly says '24 states banned gender-affirming care for transgender minors based on misinformation'. Well, then go find that source. We shouldn't be doing extrapolation in our hooks or our Wikipedia articles. starship.paint (talk / cont) 13:45, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • I think we could both do with a second opinion on: What you want is a reliable source that explicitly says '24 states banned gender-affirming care for transgender minors based on misinformation'. To me, per WP:MEDRS and WP:FRINGE when top tier medical orgs have the position that "policy X is based on misinformation", we don't need them to update their count of states with policy X every time a new state does it, but I could be wrong. The hook that transgender health care misinformation has caused states in the USA to ban gender-affirming care for minors[9][10][11] and in 2024 26 states had implemented such bans?[12] is an example of how that would look. If a second opinion considers that SYNTH, then I've no issues with that due to transgender health care misinformation, 18 states in the United States had banned gender-affirming care for minors and some restricted adult's access by 2023?[13]
  • Passing comment about ALT3: The "due to misinformation" language makes it sound like that's the sole cause, e.g., that plain old bigotry played no part. WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:12, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist and WhatamIdoing: some rewording: How about 26 states in the United States have restricted gender-affirming care for transgender minors, with transgender health care misinformation being one factor behind such bans? starship.paint (talk / cont) 15:28, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Starship.paint: perfect! Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 22:49, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I'm opposed to this article running as a DYK per WP:DYKNOT (promotion of political causes). It fails WP:NPOV and frequently cites US activist opinion as though that was internationally accepted fact The lead claims "Misinformation has affected the decision of the United Kingdom to reduce use of puberty blockers for transgender individuals" something I'm sure the clinical experts at NHS England and NHS Scotland would rolls their eyes at. They might in fact have been more swayed by half a dozen systematic reviews published in a top tier medical journal.. Scotland's response to the Cass Review gives no hint at either Florida style conservative bigotry nor giving the time of day to activist bloggers or US legal drama. Readers of this sorry wiki article would be forgiven for thinking it was written by a really enthusiastic teenager who nobody had told NPOV was a core pillar, nor explained the difference between opinion and fact.

This is a field where both activist sides have indulged in misinformation. I'd expect a Wikipedia article to state that clearly and give examples of both. Actual experts admit a lack of knowledge or research or even gathering longterm data on things like outcomes and desistance and so on. Yet both activist sides claim confidently the other side is wrong and they alone have solid facts. This is an article clearly written by a US activist viewpoint. Ironically, it itself is an example of transgender misinformation.

In reality there are grownups, professionals, who run clinics and hospitals and healthcare providers, who aren't influenced by politican bigots nor by their twitter feed or bedroom bloggers. An example of their work is represented by the link I gave earlier. This is a million miles away from the kind of legal battles where facts are irrelevant being played out in US courts right now. Wikipedia should not be abused as a player in such battles. -- Colin°^Talk 16:27, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• This is a field where both activist sides have indulged in misinformation. I'd expect a Wikipedia article to state that clearly and give examples of both. - do you have any RS to support that opinion? Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 22:49, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• YFNS why are you writing these words as if the voluminous comments by User:Void if removed on the talk pages of trans topics, especially Cass Review, haven't put forward numerous reliable sources countering the many examples of misinformation that editors have attempted to push here. Don't act here like you've never seen a reliable source countering misinformation from US trans activists. Or that you aren't aware of any and are challenging me to find even one. Or do you think all sources that disagree with your POV are inherently unreliable. The Cass Review needed its own FAQ to counter the misinformation written about it. An MP had to apologise to the House for repeating misinformation about it.

As an example of misinformation present itself in Transgender health care misinformation is the statement "The Cass Review—a non-peer-reviewed independent evaluation of trans healthcare within NHS England". This contains the activist-trope about the Cass Review not being peer-reviewed. This is a red flag sure to make any healthcare professional roll their eyes at the silly games youngsters play online these days. I guess this sort of tripe works on gullible twitter/blog-reading people already minded to hate, but it is Trump-level argumentation that does not impress at any intellectual level. The Cass Review contains not only the two systematic reviews published by NICE but also six more systematic reviews by the York team, a two-part review of existing clinical guidelines and an international survey. These were peer reviewed and published in the most reputable journal. The issues that activists such as those involved in the Yale PDF have are with those reviews and being upset that yet again systematic reviews found a lack of evidence. Claiming the Cass Review wasn't peer reviewed is a bit like claiming a car has no engine, because it is hidden underneath the bonnet. The final report was not subject to peer review, but no other report like that ever is. So that's like complaining the manual for my computer motherboard wasn't peer reviewed. And for those who understand the strengths and limiations of peer reivew, wouldn't have changed it in any significant way if it was. This is simply hoax put about by activists to attempt to discredit the finest and most comprehensive review of youth trans healthcare yet published. And meanwhile, outside of your the activist silo, it is being accepted and implemented by professionals who are not bigots. This, on Wikipedia should be another red flag. When the serious folk get on with the job without even bothering to address activist noise, it is like when airports get on with flying people on holiday, without checking your 737 isn't dumping chemtrails across the sky. When you read either the Cass Review or NHS Scotland response we don't see Florida-conservative-politician-style anti-gender-ideology nuttery and bigotry. We don't see those professionals making claims that young people can't be trans or that gender ideology is a myth. Scotland didn't implement its plans with a bill called "Protect Our Women From Trans Idiocy and Gender Lunacy" like Trump or DeSantis would.

As I said, this article reads like a teenager wrote it as an activist pamphlet to address problems they only see from a US perspective, fighting a certain kind of US bigot and thinking the rest of the world is like that too. It doesn't belong in an international encyclopaedia that claims to use professional sources. It certainly doesn't belong on the main page. This sort of subject needs to be written by editors with a commitment to NPOV, not a commitment to The Cause. -- Colin°^Talk 09:22, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There aren't RS in that statement of yours. VIR's volumnious comments tend to go against consensus and promote misinformation in my experience. The one piece of misinfo about the Cass Review was "it dismissed over 100 studies" (which is not misinfo about trans healthcare). The Cass Review article says The Cass Review was a non-peer-reviewed, independent service review which made policy recommendations for services offered to transgender and gender-expansive youth for gender dysphoria in the NHS - it also has Cass Review#Criticisms. Comments like Readers of this sorry wiki article would be forgiven for thinking it was written by a really enthusiastic teenager who nobody had told NPOV was a core pillar, nor explained the difference between opinion and fact. and And meanwhile, outside of your activist silo, (among others) are the kind of inflammatory language you've been warned about.[14] I would appreciate an apology / striking of comments / toning down of rhetoric and for you to save discussion of the article for its talk page. Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 16:21, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

YFNS, I call out this article for the one-sided activist screed it is. And you are an activist single-purpose account. Throwing stones at me doesn't change that. The article demonstrates an inability to write beyond a limited world view where the righteous US activist is fighting a battle against evil US bigots. It is clear the author(s) cannot accept how healthcare decisions and clinical research could possibly come to findings that disappoint and frustrate them without being apparently stupid professionals gullibly believing misinformation. That's the premise of the article and DYK proposal: misinformation credulously believed by stupid and/or bigoted people in healthcare. It is also clear that the author(s) have no comprehension or willingness to admit that activists on their side (and editors including and like them) spread misinformation in return (including on Wikipedia). I'm more used to seeing this sort of belief that healthcare professionals are ignorant of the Big Truth coming from those who peddle herbal cancer cures or think vaccines contain microchips. Note that I don't deny that most of the misinformation described in this article is indeed misinformation. That any or all of it has actually had the influence claimed, is quite another matter. You see, YFNS, the sort of, let's call a spade a spade, shit, thrown by both sides is only actually appreciated by one's own base. Flinging that "non-peer reviewed Cass Review" line about gets nods and likes on Twitter and gets repeated by blogs and is lapped up just as readily by one tribe as some transphobic blogger misgendering some actor gets lapped up by another tribe. But doesn't impress or influence anyone else. Indeed, all it does is mark one out as clearly not engaging in a grown up intellectual discussion. A billionaire doofus claiming USAID is full of Marxists doesn't actually make any Democrat go "Oh, I didn't know it was full of Marxists". Nobody in the UK is sitting here thinking "My oh my, I didn't know the USAID was overrun with Marxists". The UK government isn't cancelling aid collaboration with the US because it is overrun by Marxists. So while that line is very much "misinformation", it hasn't got that effect. It's just a line his followers will like and which signifies which tribe he's in. It's the same with much of this misinformation. If one claims 100 studies were dismissed from the Cass Review, or if one claims there are no trans children, or if one claims the Cass Review contains evidence that desistence is extremely rare, or if one claims in ROGD, or if one claims the Cass Review was ghost written by Genspect, then one is indicating ones tribe: an activist in one camp happy to fling misinformation about for The Cause.

Cass themselves noted, the poor quality of evidence has been exploited by activists on both sides to make claims and counter claims that are unsupported. It takes a braver and more considerate writer to admit "we don't know, and we really should".

In UK and other European countries, healthcare professionals are basing their decisions on evidence based medicine, which includes systematic reviews like those published as part of the Cass Review and many others. They commission serious reports by their top health professionals. One could argue the Cass Review (for NHS England) was "peer reviewed" by the health professionals in NHS Scotland. I value their opinion far far far higher than some bedroom blogger in California. YFNS can you not spot the massive difference in tone and intellectual quality in such a report (written by a team of experts over months) vs the legal-battle PDF's and blog pieces that are your usual go-to for argument. It's like the difference between a speech by Obama and one by Trump.

The assumption of this article is that these professionals, at all levels of healthcare provision, are completely stupid or bigoted or both. If only they read a few US blogs or magazines, or perhaps this Wikipedia article, they might wake up and realise how they were duped. It is an extraordinary claim. And frankly makes one roll ones eyes. -- Colin°^Talk 19:20, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest posting at WT:DYK (or even WT:GAN, since that is one cursory review!), where any valid claims about violations of WP:NPOV or WP:CIVIL will be readily confirmed.--Launchballer 07:34, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I took this to WP:GAR and am placing this on hold.--Launchballer 11:59, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that due to World War 1, the recent push for industrialization had made Brazil a worker-dense country which facilitated the growth of Communism in Brazil?

• Reviewed:

☢️SCR@TCH!NGH3@D (talk) 06:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Don't call this a review, but neither of the hooks have the bolded Communism in Brazil articles and are therefore ineligible. As this is a problem with the hooks and not the articles, you can rephrase or come up with new hooks that do link to the article itself.

• Resolved, new reviewer needed, as I have no interest in formally reviewing this myself. Departure– (talk) 15:07, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Luizpuodzius and Xavier1824: 2804:14C:5BB1:9473:1019:498B:B79B:6CC8 (talk) 22:51, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that industrialisation caused by World War 1 made Brazil a worker-dense country which facilitated the growth of Communism in Brazil?

Simplifying the hook a little Lajmmoore (talk) 08:27, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Scratchinghead and Avelludo: Significant uncited content in this, which will require referencing before this can run. When you've done that, ping me and I will review this. (I'll want to trim ALT1, but I'll do that with the review.)--Launchballer 04:31, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Scratchinghead and Avelludo: Please address the above.--Launchballer 12:41, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that a bulldog bought two-thirds of the letter "-H-" in 1971?

• Reviewed:

Cos ^{(X + Z)} 14:59, 15 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - Thank you for your work on the article! The hook is certainly interesting, but IMO it doesn't provide enough context to the reader, and the article doesn't mention the letter "-H-" anywhere. Are there any other possible hooks?

QPQ: None required.

Overall: '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 13:12, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @CanonNi: the "-H-" is Hayes signature hood ornament.

  

• But if you want, I'll give you another hook:

ALT1: ... that the Hayes Manufacturing Company were the first logging truck manufacturing company to introduce diesel engines to their trucks in 1933?

Source: Holtzman, Stan (1995). American Semi Trucks. Osceola, Wisconsin: Motorbooks International. p. 46. ISBN 978-1610605731.

-Cos ^{(X + Z)} 15:13, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Ah, that makes sense. Approved - the image you added above could be used if this is the first hook of its set. Congrats on your second DYK and GA! '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 02:32, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

unpromoted per WT:DYK, needs some more workshopping on the hook, and consideration for DYKAPRIL. If we could find an image of the bus, that would be a bonus. RoySmith (talk) 15:15, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• My idea is that the original hook runs on April fools. Cos ^{(X + Z)} 20:50, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that there was a cafe in Japan where you can order "the one I always drink" even if it is your first visit?

• ALT1: ... that the Cafe Run by My Friend objected to Japan's culture of customer supremacy? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240723194753/https://dime.jp/genre/1582006/
• Reviewed:
• Comment:

狄の用務員 (talk) 12:07, 22 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• This article is new enough, long enough, and well sourced. I have to AGF on the Japanese-language sources. Article appears to be written neutrally. ALT0 and ALT1 are sourced inline and appear to be interesting enough. ALT0 may need a slight rewrite though as this cafe "was", and is no more. No QPQ is required as this is the nominator's first. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:25, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for pointing this out, I have corrected the tense in ALT0.--狄の用務員 (talk) 09:22, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reopened per WT:DYK.--Launchballer 18:08, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Per Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 204#Tomodachiga Yatteru Cafe, this needs a native speaker of Japanese and English to look over it.--Launchballer 09:46, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Cornelius Pass Road, a major arterial connecting the suburbs of Portland, Oregon, was built in the late 19th century ?

• Reviewed:

TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 16:36, 21 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• passing ALT1.
  The article was nom the day after promotion to GA status. Article is obvs long enough, neutral and well-sourced. The hook is cited in the article (fn 14) and well within length at only 123 chars. There are no close paraphrasing issues (names, titles and quotes throw up the usual false positives). Hook is probably interesting, as while it's just a road, it's an old road. QPQ not required, lucky you. GTG. Serial (speculates here) 19:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can a new hook be suggested? Even the reviewer said that the hook is "probably interesting". SL93 (talk) 03:22, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 ... that in 2006 of the 11,000 vehicles who used the Cornelius Pass Road daily, 1,500 were tractor-trailers?https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-oregonian-family-wants-more-than-roa/163003300/ Lajmmoore (talk) 19:16, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't find that interesting either I'm afraid. It doesn't tell me why that might be unusual.--Launchballer 09:48, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the themes of Somuk's artwork (example pictured) range from the bombing of his island during World War II to the origin of trees and plants?

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Finja Church

I T B F 📢 23:32, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Hook is good and checks out, article is well-written and doesn't have any signs of copyright violation. My only concern is that the image might not actually be PD in the US - they're certainly PD in Papua New Guinea, but I don't think they were PD early enough for Template:PD-URAA to apply. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:33, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've started a discussion on the copyright status of Somuk's artwork at Commons:Deletion requests/Artwork by Somuk (ITBF has been notified at Commons, but just in case @Generalissima: wants to participate). Concurring with Generalissima that this looks well-sourced, new enough, long enough, etc. and the QPQ is done. IMO the copyright worries are well-founded, but the hook can probably run without the image. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 17:12, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the German law enforcement is investigating the projection of Elon Musk's arm gesture onto Berlin's Tesla factory over the use of an illegal salute?

• ALT1: ... that Elon Musk has called for Wikipedia to be defunded over its coverage of his arm gesture, leading Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales to state that "Elon is unhappy that Wikipedia is not for sale"? Source: 'Defund until': Elon Musk slams Wikipedia over 'Nazi salute' claim
• ALT2: ... that Elon Musk's representative in Italy has defended Musk's arm gesture, stating that Musk "is autistic" and was expressing his emotions rather than emulating fascism? Source: "He later deleted the post, writing that Musk 'is autistic,' and was expressing his emotions but denying he was emulating fascism."
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Burdet
• Comment: I dare nominate a spicy one. This article is still undergoing a deletion discussion and will need polishing, but it had to be nominated in time.

Surtsicna (talk) 01:48, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Comment. I'm not wholesale opposed to this article running on DYK (subject to the deletion nomination), but I think the three hooks presented all have issues, mostly to do with neutrality/WP:DYKHOOKBLP. I don't think we should be running any hooks that are in the format "Living Person X is under criminal investigation", because that effectively amounts to an implication of wrongdoing and, unlike news outlets, we don't rerun a blurb if the person being investigated is absolved. ALT1 seems to be more about Musk's views on Wikipedia than the boldlinked article; the quote from Jimmy Wales is currently not even mentioned in the article, so we have an instance where the hook is actually more informative than the article it links to. I'm also biased against "meta" hooks that reference Wikipedia in general although there's no policy against it. With ALT2, I don't really see a circumstance in which someone tagging a public figure with a neurodevelopmental disorder can be presented neutrally as a hook. I T B F 📢 12:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITBF, no hook is saying that Musk is under criminal investigation. It is not he who projected the image of his gesture. I do not see neutrality issues with ALT2 because it comes from his supporter. Surtsicna (talk) 22:51, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. Proposing new hooks as not a fan of ALT2 for above reasons, nor a the sort of self-promotion in ALT1. I think these are much more neutral as a statement of fact than a personal opinion. Edit: Also adding ALT4 as another fact over negative opinion, while tying a GA into the mix.

ALT3: ... many Reddit moderators banned links to X in protest of Elon Musk's straight-arm gesture? Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77r1p887e5o

ALT4: ... that the anti-Brexit activist group, Led By Donkeys, projected an image of Elon Musk's straight-arm gesture onto a Tesla Gigafactory in Berlin? Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/snl-elon-musk-michael-che-nazi-salute-b2686731.html

I disagree with you both regarding ALT1. Readers of the front page are almost certainly interested in the site and so hooks about Wikipedia inherently meet WP:DYKINT. I'd word the hook differently, however: ALT1a: ... that Elon Musk called for Wikipedia to be defunded over its coverage of a gesture he made at the second inauguration of Donald Trump?--Launchballer 01:28, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with the above claim that all hooks about Wikipedia are automatically interesting or should be preferred. In fact, personally I believe that such a viewpoint should be discouraged. See for example WP:NAVEL which shows that referring to Wikipedia or putting emphasis on Wikipedia in content is, at the very least, controversial. Ideally, we should be avoiding references to Wikipedia in hooks whenever possible, and I don't see why this should be an exception. ALT3 especially seems like a more appropriate option in this case since it's neutral, it's not unduly focusing on Wikipedia, and it sidesteps the concerns regarding criminality. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:33, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3 is boring. Concerns regarding whose criminality, Narutolovehinata5? ALT0 does not say that Musk is being investigated. Surtsicna (talk) 22:51, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how ALT3 is boring (unless your preference is one of the political hooks), and the criminality concerns weren't mine but ITBF's. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:42, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are righ, "boring" is a bit strong. I find it less interesting than the others, but if it is concise and safe. Surtsicna (talk) 14:26, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT5: ... that an activist group projected an image of Elon Musk's straight-arm gesture onto a Tesla Gigafactory with the phrase "Heil Tesla"?Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/snl-elon-musk-michael-che-nazi-salute-b2686731.html TarnishedPath^talk 13:04, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is that spicy enough without causing any of the concerns raised above? TarnishedPath^talk 13:07, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Full review needed, including the various hooks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:40, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Surtsicna: I was just about to review this, however WP:DYKCOMPLETE demands that articles be free from "unresolved edit-warring" and this very clearly isn't. When this stabilises, ping me and I will review this.--Launchballer 09:57, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that in 1477 Roger Tocotes was suspected of aiding and abetting the poisoners of the Duchess of Clarence, but managed to avoid capture until the King began investigating the Duke of Clarence? Source: * Hicks, M. A. (1980). False, Fleeting, Perjur'd Clarence: George, Duke of Clarence 1449–1478. Gloucester: Alan Sutton. p. 138. ISBN 978-1-87304-113-0.* Scofield, C. L. (1967). The Life and Reign of Edward the Fourth, King of England and of France and Lord of Ireland. Vol. II (New impr. ed.). London: Cass. pp. 187–189. OCLC 310646653.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cornelius Pass Road

Serial (speculates here) 19:42, 22 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• The article is new enough, long enough, and of excellent quality. The hook needs some polishing, though. Given that most historians do not believe that the duchess was poisoned, we should probably describe the executed servants as alleged poisoners. I like how the hook can be read as saying that the king investigated the duke for the poisoning of the duchess (despite it not saying that). Instead of "aiding and abetting" I think we should try the simple "involvement" and perhaps indicate that it was the duke who suspected/accused/persecuted him. Surtsicna (talk) 22:47, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Fortuna imperatrix mundi: Please address the above.--Launchballer 10:08, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that in the mid-15th-century, John Stacy was a well-known alchemist, an alleged astronomer, and suspected of being a great sorcerer who practised the dark arts? Source: * Hughes, J. (2002). Arthurian Myths and Alchemy: The Kingship of Edward IV. Stroud: Sutton. p. 289. ISBN 978-0-75091-994-4.* Saunders, C. J. (2010). Magic and the Supernatural in Medieval English Romance. Woodbridge: Boydell & Brewer. p. 76. ISBN 978-1-84384-221-7.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Man in the Yellow Tie
  • Comment: I would have liked a hook about the vignette of Suffolk's murder, but I couldn't quite work out a way of combing The Tower/Nicholas of the Tower without too much detail.

Serial (speculates here) 19:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• I ran to the talk page to see if you had nominated the article as soon as I saw it created. New, long enough, well-sourced, and brilliant. Please do try to compose a Suffolk murder hook! It is too good not to give it a shot. Take your time. Surtsicna (talk) 20:22, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that John Stacy predicted the death of a Duke of Suffolk?--Launchballer 18:00, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the first bridge (pictured) to cross the Mississippi River was in Minneapolis?

• ALT1: ...that the first bridge to cross the Mississippi River was the Hennepin Avenue Bridge (pictured) in Minneapolis?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Council of Tripoli
  • Comment: Article was started using text from MNopedia which is CC BY-SA 3.0, and as such may trigger Earwig with that source.

~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 02:43, 22 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• New enough, hook verifies from the National Park source, Earwig does indeed register 87% but as it's a compatible license properly cited and attributed I think it can pass. Everything seems cited and the article is long enough and contains the hook, and everything else seems fine for DYK. I'd rephrase the hook a bit (that's just me though, it works as is) but I do think the hook itself is interesting. Good to go! Departure– (talk) 18:27, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Departure–, Thanks! And I'd open to hearing any hook rephrase suggestions. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 21:29, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Darth Stabro: I was specifically thinking "...that the first bridge over the Mississippi River was the Hennepin Avenue Bridge in Minneapolis?" What are your thoughts on this? Departure– (talk) 21:51, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

sure, Departure– - throw in a picture, and we have ALT1: "...that the first bridge over the Mississippi River was the Hennepin Avenue Bridge (pictured) in Minneapolis?" ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 23:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adjusted. I think most people would be interested in the first bridge over the most important river in the English-speaking world was, so it doesn't need to embellish facts or focus on anything else because it's independently interesting. Departure– (talk) 13:37, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• By the way, for anyone thinking of promoting this, put it on hold until the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Three Hennepin Avenue Bridge hooks is concluded. This is passed, however.

Pulled per WT:DYK discussion. RoySmith (talk) 15:16, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• To follow up, it appears that there may not be at least 1500 original prose characters in the article, as required by WP:DYKLEN; the bulk of the article appears copied from MNopedia, and while such copying from public domain and such sources is allowed, nothing copied can count toward the 1500 prose character requirement. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:04, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just to head off possible confusion, there's two distinct DYK submissions, about two different bridges:

• Template:Did you know nominations/Hennepin Avenue Bridge
• Template:Did you know nominations/Hennepin Avenue Bridge (1855)

• ... that David Szymanski, the developer of Iron Lung, is set to feature in a film adaptation directed by Markiplier?

• Reviewed:
• Comment: User:Sebbog13 created the original Draft article. After it was deleted, User:Ktkvtsh recreated the Draft and moved it to mainspace. User:Queen of Hearts then copied the exact text over from the original Draft into the article that Ktkvtsh created.

Sebbog13 (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• @Sebbog13, Ktkvtsh, and Queen of Hearts: Lots to whinge about here I'm afraid. For starters, the draft version of this article contains considerable content from @Di (they-them):, so I have added them to the nominaton. This article is very clearly a stub (the article comprises no information about him, only his works and comments) and after copyediting this and removing the various IPA templates and the Primary sources disclaimer (one causes WP:DYKcheck to glitch, the other clearly isn't prose), this comes in at well below 1,500 characters and I don't review articles that short per WP:DYKLEN. When you have added add some more information about Szymanski, I will review this.--Launchballer 15:23, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment the current form of the article contains 0% of what I originally wrote in the article I published. Ktkvtsh (talk) 17:16, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the article, it seems Queen of Hearts overwrote the article when she moved the draft over. I reinstated the two sentences lost in the shuffle.--Launchballer 17:25, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. Ktkvtsh (talk) 18:15, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that FBI agent Dale Carson created the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office during the 1968 city/county merger while eliminating corruption?

• ALT1: ... that Dale Carson resigned from the Federal Bureau of Investigation when Florida Governor LeRoy Collins appointed him as sheriff of Duval County, Florida? Source: "Collins appointed Dale G Carson, 36, to the post. Carson resigned from the Federal Bureau of Investigation to take the job..." [15]
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WTVJ

Mgrē@sŏn (Talk) 17:59, 25 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• @Mgreason: This article has a few citation needed tags and a section entirely without citations. That will need to be fixed before the article runs on DYK. Also, FWIW, neither of these hooks are very interesting. Maybe there's a hook focusing on the difference between him and his no-good, gambling predecessor? Tenpop421 (talk) 13:51, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that NAIA scoring champion Grace Beyer finished her career with 10 more points than Caitlin Clark did?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/William Bartram (Pennsylvania politician)
• Comment: 1st of 2 QPQs

TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:50, 26 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

ALT1... that NAIA career scoring record-holder Grace Beyer scored at least 29 points in all four games against NCAA Division I opponents?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:43, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2... that NAIA career scoring record-holder Grace Beyer holds several school records for assists?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:44, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - n
• Interesting: - n

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Recent enough, cited, with no plagiarism as far as I can see. My concerns are regarding the hooks themselves. They are too wordy and do not appear to be supported by the listed source. In fact, the listed source says that Beyer has 276 more points than Clark, not ten. However, speaking as someone who doesn't watch basketball, these hooks don't spark any interest in me. I don't care that one person performed better than another person, especially in basketball. I did notice an achievement that might spark immediate interest. Assuming this hasn't since become outdated, the hook could be something like, using the ESPN as a source:

• ALT3: ...that Grace Beyer is the highest-scoring basket player of the NAIA to date. Lazman321 (talk) 19:54, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• User:Lazman321 are you living on a different planet than me. Clark is considered the most important female athlete in the world in some circles. Do you really think any hook would garner more interest than a connection to Clark. There are multiple sources in the article documenting that Clark finished with 3951 points, ten shy of Beyer. There are probably a few non-basketball fans that have not heard of Clark, but she seems to be the rage in the sports world. A hook saying she outscored the world's most important athlete has to have some non-trivial interest.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:29, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @TonyTheTiger: please include a citation which verifies the hook fact (Clark's score and Beyer's score) and not just part of it (Beyer's score). Lazman321 acted in good faith by going by your citation. Beyer's score is verified here and Clark's score here, which verify the hook by WP:CALC. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, I agree that the Clark hook is the more interesting one. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:09, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Following the sentene "Clark finished her career with 3,951 points, ten shy of Beyer," these two citations are present. 55 and 56.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:51, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ALT4 ... that NAIA scoring champion Grace Beyer finished her with 10 more career points than Caitlin Clark did?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:42, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Even as a person interested in basketball, from a country where basketball is a religion, and who knows who Caitlin Clark is, the hook is frankly not going to see much appeal outside of North America I think. Unless you know who Clark is, the hook doesn't really sound all that interesting. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:05, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that to promote his album Museum Music, Edward Skeletrix held an exhibition during which he sat inside a glass box?

• Reviewed:

CarbonLollipop talk┊contribs 11:18, 25 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• The article is new enough and long enough. It is adequately sourced and I did not find any close paraphrasing. As this is the nominator's first nomination, no QPQ is required. The hook is interesting and cited inline, and it is also verified in the source. My only concern is that it mentions Skeletrix by name despite not having an article yet; DYK regulars often encourage not mentioning article-less people by name in hooks. Either revise the hook to remove the mention of his name, or create an article for him so he can be linked (I see he is technically a blue link, although right now Edward Skeletrix is a redirect to Museum Music). If you can make his article meet the requirements, the hook would definitely work as a double hook. Good luck! Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:12, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @Narutolovehinata5: thanks for the review. I've started an article at Edward Skeletrix; can it be boldlinked in the hook? CarbonLollipop talk┊contribs 05:10, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If he meets the requirements, then yes he can. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CarbonLollipop and Narutolovehinata5: I've updated the nom. ALT1: ... that to promote his album Museum Music, Edward Skeletrix held an exhibition during which he sat inside a glass box?--Launchballer 04:43, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing Edward's article. The article was properly created on February 10 but was not bolded until February 19. While technically this would mean that the article was ineligible for DYK at the time of bolding, per WP:DYKNEW an extension can be granted based on the circumstances. In addition, the article was created in response to the discussion here, so maybe we can agree to IAR in this case. Otherwise, the article meets requirements: it is new enough, long enough, adequately sourced. It might be a good idea to mention the glass box aspect in the article too just to make sure the hook fact is verifiable across both articles. Still no QPQ is needed as this is the nom's first nomination and Edward would be just their second DYK credit. My main concern is that the entire Singles section is cited to Spotify, which isn't exactly ideal, although I can accept that if no other independent sources can be found. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:14, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that for the song "More than Life", Glaive's verse "was so good that (Machine Gun Kelly‎) had to change his verse"?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tabyana Ali

Locust member (talk) 21:17, 26 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Article seems more than ready for DYK, but the hook prbably shouldn't be passing off Glaive's own opinion as fact. I would simply work the quote ("It was so good that he had to change his verse...") into the hook. Let me know when that's done! Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 17:02, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Kingoflettuce: How does it look now? Sorry it took a few days.
    • @Kingoflettuce: ?
      • Hey there, real sorry I missed the ping somehow. All looks good now (modified the hook slightly) in terms of length and newness (improvement to GA) at the time of nomination, hookiness, well-citedness. QPQ done. Cheers! KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 07:17, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • @Kingoflettuce: Please add an icon to indicate whether this is approved or not.--Launchballer 13:06, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that although he was born with cerebral palsy, Jake Brown made 75 appearances for mainstream association football team Askam United?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Piotr Potworowski
  • Comment: Sources in article. QPQ is old but there's more.

Kingsif (talk) 03:45, 26 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - n
• Interesting:

QPQ: - Not done
Overall: AGF on Telegraph source for one of the quotes in main article. QPQ has already been cashed in, in 2021 - please provide alternative QPQ. Hook part about playing for mainstream club is fine but no mention in sources or your article of the 75 games played. C679 08:34, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Cloudz679: There isn't a written source that says "played 75 games", but there is a source with his career statistics, which are mentioned in the article... I don't put sources in noms so reviewers actually read the article and click the links. And FWIW, the QPQ has not been used (there were multiple reviewers there, someone else might have). Kingsif (talk) 15:22, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Kingsif: Not sure if that was an intentional dig, I saw the stats before but was limited to the 2015–16 season. Managed to find the 'All seasons' button to switch views. According to that, it's 2 appearances for Askam United and 73 for Askam United Reserves - the infobox currently says 65 for the firsts. I reckon if it's only 2 for the A-team the hook should be adjusted as otherwise misleading.C679 18:20, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Cloudz679: What would you suggest? Askam Reserves are the players that stayed in the Furness league when the team got promoted, it looks like, but obviously details on why lower leagues register a reserve side in the main pyramid are hard to come by. Kingsif (talk) 22:19, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Ok. Took a second look at QPQ, accepting it, multiple reviewers there. Only outstanding issue here is the hook. I can propose a couple for other editors to review:
• ALT1: ... that although he was born with cerebral palsy, Jake Brown made multiple appearances for mainstream association football team Askam United?
• ALT2: ... that although he was born with cerebral palsy, Jake Brown played 75 games in the mainstream English football league system? C679 04:44, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. ALT2 is stronger but then the infobox within the article should be updated accordingly (so that it adds up to 75). Fine to list both Askam United and Askam United Reviews separately if needed. Cielquiparle (talk) 17:23, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Cielquiparle: Remember that the infobox is for league games, not all games. Kingsif (talk) 18:57, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingsif: Thanks for the clarification. I clearly see how the cited source gets us to 65 league games and 8 cup games. Can we add a citation verifying the two 2 "other" competitions? Cielquiparle (talk) 02:40, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Same source? Kingsif (talk) 03:23, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that "The King" Richard Petty's campaign in the 1996 North Carolina Secretary of State election veered off course due to a hit-and-run?

• Reviewed:

CaramelizedMargaritaLime (talk) 07:41, 27 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• First off, nice job creating that article! There are two primary concerns I have right now: 1.) "legendary" is PUFFERY, 2.) the traffic incident section's second paragraph is fluff. Both issues can be resolved with a few well-executed excisions. ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:38, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• • @Pbritti: Thank you for taking a look at my article and providing some constructive criticism! I hope you like the changes that I made as much as I do. CaramelizedMargaritaLime (talk) 22:16, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Dull hook. Someone usually loses an election; that doesn't become more interesting because of what they did before running. I think something related to his car accident would be more interesting, maybe with a pun, i.e. " ... that a car accident may have wrecked Richard Petty's chances of becoming North Carolina's Secretary of State?" Also, see the passages I tagged inline. Daniel Case (talk) 23:44, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Daniel Case: I appreciate your advice. I tried to spice up the entry with a racing pun tied to the scandal.CaramelizedMargaritaLime (talk) 00:33, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Yours is actually better. Daniel Case (talk) 05:00, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks for the assist, Daniel Case. That hook is actually extremely funny. Great work! ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:48, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to promote this DYK but realized that I had misunderstood which hook Pbritti was referring to as "extremely funny". So I am striking ALT0 and reformatting ALT1 here now for a future promoter.

• ALT1: ... that a car accident may have wrecked Richard Petty's chances of being elected North Carolina's Secretary of State?"

@CaramelizedMargaritaLime: A DYK admin has raised concerns about the lack of prose in the "Results" section of the article here:Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Prep_6 Could you take a look and try to address? Cielquiparle (talk) 21:44, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CaramelizedMargaritaLime: Please address the above.--Launchballer 13:07, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Soepojo Padmodipoetro became the dean of the Gadjah Mada University economics faculty while still being registered as a student in the faculty? Source: "... Dekan FE UGM (1963) merangkap Pembantu Rektor Bidang Administrasi dan Keuangan (1964). Artinya, pada saat bersamaan, namanya masih terdaftar sebagai mahasiswa di FE UGM." Siregar, Sori; Mardanus, Dody (1999). 50 tahun UGM: di seputar dinamika politik bangsa (in Indonesian). LP3ES. p. 63.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cheng Lianzhen

Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 11:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Comment: The "while still being regstered as a student in the faculty" bit needs clarification. Was he just a student at the time or both a student and a member of the faculty? Grumpylawnchair (talk) 05:21, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Grumpylawnchair: He was both a student and a faculty. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 05:52, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Long enough, new enough. Earwig is clean and QPQ done. I see no reason why this might deserve a maintenance template. The hook would require an end-of-sentence citation and is probably too wordy anyway. I suggest ALT1: ... that despite Soepojo Padmodipoetro being the highest administrator of Gadjah Mada University, he could not attend its meetings?--Launchballer 15:41, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Palestinian singer Zeinab Shaath assumed a short film featuring her had been destroyed by the Israeli Defense Force, until a researcher discovered a copy in the IDF archive?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Weighing Souls with Sand
• Comment: Nearly missed the timeframe for this as I've been occupied for much of the past week, bare with me as I haven't done/had to do a review before

Iostn (talk) 23:13, 5 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• @Iostn: Article new enough (Jan 30), long enough (4200 B), no copyvio (Earwig says 20.0%, but mostly proper nouns). Hook interesting and verified in source. The sourcing is mostly good—I'll note that In These Times and Matzpen are biased sources, but this article cites them for neutral, biographical information, which is okay. Those aside, I see one issue with the sourcing: can you explain why Grimy Goods, which describes itself as a blog, is a reliable source? — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 20:48, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Grimy Goods appears to be professional and well-established, but if needs be, I could probably replace that source quite easily Iostn (talk) 09:18, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Iostn: I'd do that, since I can't find any evidence that it has an editor.--Launchballer 13:09, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Lois Riess killed a woman named Pamela Hutchinson and assumed her identity without undergoing surgery?

• that Lois Riess became the subject of true-crime documentaries after befriending a woman whom she resembled before killing her and assuming her identity?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afrowriter (talk • contribs) 07:24, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Reviewed:
• Comment: This is my first DYK submission, and I’m not entirely sure how the process works. However, after doing some reading, I decided to give it a try.

Afro 📢Talk! 05:05, 30 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• While the hook is a convicted murderer, I'm still not sure if the hook would meet WP:DYKBLP. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:25, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's undue to have a murder hook about someone known entirely for her murders. "named Pamela Sellers Hutchinson" needs trimming though.--Launchballer 19:24, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What Launchballer said. Gatoclass (talk) 05:49, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The hook isn't all that great regardless. How about something like:

• ALT1: * ... that Lois Riess became the subject of true-crime documentaries after befriending a woman whom she resembled before killing her and assuming her identity? Gatoclass (talk) 00:12, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sorry. but this looks abandoned.Afro 📢Talk! 09:39, 22 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Somebody needed to verify ALT1 - thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 08:33, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sorry. What is the latest update on this? It seems to have been abandoned.Afro 📢Talk! 11:39, 11 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

I'm a bit confused about the status of this DYK nom too. @Afrowriter: I can't verify ALT1, as the citation given in this version of the article ([18]) does not verify that she has been the subject of multiple true crime docs. I have removed the sentence in question. TBH, I don't see why ALT0 couldn't run, it's much more interesting. Tenpop421 (talk) 21:45, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What needs to happen is that someone needs to give this a full review.--Launchballer 11:39, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Jack Hobbs is "remembered for having a shit"? Source: https://www.comedy.co.uk/features/comedy_chronicles/jack-hobbs/
  • ALT1: ... that Jack Hobbs is remembered for a bout of explosive diarrhoea? Source: see ALT0
  • ALT2: ... that Jack Hobbs once walked home wearing a "smart sky-blue tie, white shirt and nut-brown tweed jacket, with a pair of fluffy little pink legs whirring away underneath"? Source: see ALT0
  • ALT3: ... that "being remembered for having a shit is a far, far, better thing than being remembered for being one"? Source: see ALT0
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chinese sanctions
  • Comment: I had a lot of fun writing this.

Launchballer 20:54, 30 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• New enough, source checks out, looks good. Earwig returns 80% chance of copyright violation, but this seems to mainly come from quotes and lists of works. Hook is obviosuly very good; I prefer alt1 ("remembered for a bout of explosive diarrhoea"). IanTEB (talk) 21:40, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Why is there only one reference? Articles need multiple reliable sources to show notability. SL93 (talk) 01:10, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Because the subject died in 1993 and most of his coverage predates the internet. I've had a look through Google Books and added two more, including one McCann almost certainly used.--Launchballer 06:52, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer, IanTEB, and SL93: - I've reviewed this in the Queue, and unfortunately I don't believe this article is compliant with copyright policy. The body of the article is almost entirely reliant on one source (which also flags a "violation suspected" at Earwig) which means it's pretty much inevitably a close paraphrasing of that source; I've tagged it as such. I see the point above about limited sources, but that's always the case for pre-internet topics and doesn't particularly exempt it from those tags. Unless it's shown that I'm mistaken, I don't think there's much future in this nomination, and probably the article needs to be trimmed down significantly to eliminated the copyvios too. Cheers and sorry about this...  — Amakuru (talk) 13:59, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Communist Party of Germany and the Socialist Reich Party are both prohibited political parties in Germany?

• ALT-1 ... that a 2003 effort to ban the National Democratic Party of Germany failed after it was discovered the party was so heavily infiltrated by informants that the German government itself might be partly in control of it?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Phedimus aizoon

Chetsford (talk) 19:07, 31 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Article created within past week, appropriate size. Both hooks are interesting, particularly ALT-1. Article seems reliable for lead hook, and, I see no issues with plagiarism with any hooks. Earwig score on page as a whole is mostly from long titles of subjects mentioned in sources. QPQ forthcoming. I don't see a source given above for ALT-1, as the given source seems only to account for the main hook. Both hooks of appropriate length. Lbal (talk) 23:33, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Lbal:. I've added the QPQ. For the Alt 1, references are:^[1][2][3]. Chetsford (talk) 03:50, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Major Alan Macfarlane Sloan remains, as of December 2024, the only British soldier to die in action for Pakistan?

• Reviewed:

Rahim231 (talk) 10:49, 2 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Not a review, but that image will divert readers to Sloan's article and should not run.--Launchballer 18:13, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, instead of the Picture I removed the link to his article.

• Hi @Rahim231: this article, promoted to GA on 1 Feb, is new enough, long enough, and presentable. QPQ not needed. The hook is cited to the Army Institute of Military History (which seems reliable to me) and the citation checks out. However, the "Notes" section needs inline citations. I'd also like to workshop the hook a little once that's fixed. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 01:04, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done, Added citations to the notes. Rahim231 (talk) 05:45, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Rahim231: Thanks a lot! I want to modify the wording of your work a little, because it suggests to me that it would link to an article about the Major's death (and not the battle). I'd suggest:

ALT1a: ... that, as of December 2024, the Battle of Chunj is the only battle in which a British soldier died in action for Pakistan?

I'm also unsure that we need to say "as of December 2024", as it's recent enough that it's fairly uncontentious that the fact hasn't changed (it's clear that Pakistan hasn't fought any wars involving Britain since Dec 2024). In which case would you object to modifying the wording in the article and in the hook, along the lins of:

ALT1b: ... that the Battle of Chunj is the only battle in which a British soldier died in action for Pakistan?

Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 17:02, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that pilot-induced oscillations on board Olympic Airways Flight 3838 killed seven people, including Greek deputy foreign minister Giannos Kranidiotis?

• Reviewed:

RandomInfinity17 (talk - contributions) 20:16, 2 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Baggu reusable shopping bags inspire "mass adoration" in "New York, and far beyond"?

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Petrosedum forsterianum
  • Comment: Alt hooks welcome

Thriley (talk) 20:31, 12 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Comment: @Thriley: The original product is made from ripstop nylon. The article should mention that. Your Fast Company source can be used to cite it. Viriditas (talk) 07:23, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I won't review because I'm not comfortable passing such a short article that is only barely over the length threshold when there are literally enormous amounts of material available on this subject. I will, however, expand the article so that another reviewer won't have the same problem. Viriditas (talk) 00:41, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • I expanded the length from 1560 characters (261 words) to 2779 characters (462 words) readable prose size. Hopefully this will stimulate a reviewer to quickly pass your nom. Viriditas (talk) 02:41, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Review requested. Viriditas (talk) 02:41, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• This article was moved to mainspace on 3 February, which is just in the 7 days + a day or two limit of WP:DYKNEW. Article long enough and well-sourced. QPQ done. The hook is not very interesting, and and reads as quite WP:PROMOTIONAL to me. @Thriley: did you have any other hooks in mind? Tenpop421 (talk) 13:38, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Tenpop421: I agree that the hook is too promotional. I've tried pinging Thriley earlier, and they appear to be busy and mobile only. I would like to offer a new hook:
    • ALT1 ... that Baggu reusable shopping bags are so popular with collectors that it could undermine its sustainability mission?
      • Source:Cohn, Lauren (September 16, 2023). "The Overconsumption Problem of Collector Culture". L'Officiel. Retrieved February 26, 2025.
    • @Viriditas: thanks for taking this DYK on! (BTW the ping doesn't work if you forget to sign your comment). I think this hook could work, but I would want to rephrase it so we're not stating it in wp:wikivoice (i.e., attribute this as tension that "some commentators" have pointed to). Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 22:03, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Tenpop421: Understood. I would like to construct a hook without the need for attribution, mostly due to length concerns. I can do this if I move on to a new hook, but I'm wondering if this one can be salvaged with some minor changes. I'm trying to show the contradiction or paradox between having a successful product with a focus on eco-friendly reusability so that you can use less disposable bags, and collectors (fashion hoarders) who ignore the sustainability mission and focus on overconsumption. Viriditas (talk) 22:26, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • @Viriditas: the more I think about it the more I'm not sure. I don't want to give the impression that DYK is saying "hey, this product is sustainable and everyone wants one". Tenpop421 (talk) 22:38, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
          • @Tenpop421: No worries. I will try one more in this vein, and if you don't like it, I will change my strategy and come up with a different one:
            • ALT2... that the sustainability of the Baggu reusable bag is challenged by collector culture?
              • Source:Cohn, Lauren (September 16, 2023). "The Overconsumption Problem of Collector Culture". L'Officiel. Retrieved February 26, 2025. Quote: "...Baggu remains a reusable brand, dedicated to creating the perfect bag to reduce waste when it comes to shopping. Their sustainability efforts directly counter what happens on the consumer end of their products, as people collect more and more and over-consume bags meant to be solitary in their use."
• Viriditas, thank you very much for the expansion. I liked your initial hook. Perhaps just a bit hookier: ALT3 ... that Baggu reusable shopping bags are so popular with collectors that it could undermine its sustainability mission? Thriley (talk) 23:06, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • You ALT3 is indeed an improvement. Tenpop421 has reservations that it could still be somewhat indirectly and unintentionally promotional, and I understand their POV, which is why I tried to reframe it in ALT2 by leaving out the popularity bit. It's a bit tricky. Can you reformulate ALT3 without the popularity angle? I think some people will see this as a sneaky argumentum ad populum driving interest in the brand, which I think is what Tenpop421 was getting at. I realize it's not, of course, but it could be perceived that way. Viriditas (talk) 23:18, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • So far, I think ALT2 is the one I'm leaning towards. It's interesting without being promotional, and any flaws can always be worked out at the prep stage. I can verify that ALT2 is cited, the citation checks out, and it is in the article. Happy to give the good to go if @Viriditas: @Thriley: have no qualms. Tenpop421 (talk) 23:30, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • I would like to defer to Thriley on this. There's a chance they might be able to come up with something better. I appreciate your help and time, Tenpop42. Viriditas (talk) 23:34, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Caucasian stonecrop is not always so white?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jingtai Emperor
• Comment: I do not quite dare mention the dominant race part...

Surtsicna (talk) 17:22, 3 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Starting Review--Kevmin § 17:48, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article expansion new enough and long enough. Article fully cited, with sources represented neutrally. No copyvio or policy issues identified in spot checking. Question on the hook, would we have any expectation that the flowers of a plant from the Caucuses would be white in the first place?--Kevmin § 14:59, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Surtsicna: courtesy ping--Kevmin

§ 16:08, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, it's just a play on the word "Caucasian" being used to refer to White people. The stonecrop is Caucasian, but not always white 😁 I fall back on those when I can find nothing else that might attract an average reader. Surtsicna (talk) 16:58, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Surtsicna: I suspected that might have been the case, but my brain usually connects words like Caucasian in plant names to geography and not to human ethnicity. How about a hook based on the flower frequency of white vrs red forms?--Kevmin § 15:27, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kevmin: I try to see hooks from an average reader's perspective, and I presume that an average reader would think of ethnicity first. I cannot think of a form hook that would appeal to a general audience. If you can, please let me know. Surtsicna (talk) 17:26, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Surtsicna: How about Alt1 ... that the whiter the flower, the fewer flowers Caucasian stonecrop often has?--Kevmin § 17:00, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kevmin: There are a few problems with ALT1, and the biggest is that it is not what the article says ("generally less floriferous"). Surtsicna (talk) 17:38, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That is what the article says though, you wrote in the article White-flowered varieties of P. spurius are generally less floriferous (floriferous=bearing flowers. especially : blooming freely -Per Merriam Webster) To the reader, this fully implies that darker pink-red flowered specimens will typically produce MORE flowers, as there has to be a more for there to be a less floriferous White in the first place. Does the source itself say different, and if so, what wording should be at the article and why does your prose state otherwise?--Kevmin § 19:35, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Generally less floriferous". ALT1 makes it absolute. It also grades whiteness, which the article does not. Surtsicna (talk) 19:38, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Surtsicna: And I updated the kook with the adjective often to match the generally in the source statement. Its pretty clear from the myriad image of the species that the flower colors grade between white and red.--Kevmin § 21:33, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I do not want to draw conclusions from images, Kevmin. We have sources. The source says that "the white-flowered forms are less floriferous" than the pink-purple forms. It does not say that pure white-flowered forms are less floriferous than off white-flowered, etc. Surtsicna (talk) 21:46, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So you agree that the source does indeed support the intent of the proposed alternate hook. What exact wording would you use for a under 200 character hook that is based off the source text. As it stands I do not feel Alt0 is a workable hook given the very tenuous connection between Caucasian and white flowers.--Kevmin § 16:35, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the main dome of the Sadna Qasai Mosque has collapsed?

• ALT1: ... that a case was filed in the Punjab High Court regarding the upkeep of the Sadna Qasai Mosque? Source: Gandhi, Taruni (2024-04-18). "Pb & Hry HC seeks response from Punjab govt on preservation of Sadhna Kasai mosque". The Daily Guardian. Retrieved 2025-02-03.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Andrei Demurenko
• Comment: Will provide QPQ soon

AmateurHi$torian (talk) 11:38, 3 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• @AmateurHi$torian: Interesting hook but the article may need more varied sources. Apart from that the article is new and long enough. The subject matter is interesting and I think the article meets the criteria. Good job. Moondragon21 (talk) 01:47, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Dallas Mavericks fans held a mock funeral with a coffin for Luka Dončić (pictured) in response to him being traded?

• ALT1: ... that the Luka Dončić–Anthony Davis trade is the first time in NBA history that two reigning All-NBA Team players have been traded for each other in midseason?Source: According to the Elias Sports Bureau (via ESPN), the trade was "the first time that two reigning All-NBA players have been traded for each other midseason."^[2]
• Reviewed:
• Comment: Preliminary discussion at Talk:Luka Dončić–Anthony Davis trade#DYK?. Courtesy ping @Namelessposter: in case you wanted to add alt-hooks. Left guide (talk) 06:50, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Left guide (talk) 06:50, 9 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• This article, moved from draftspace on 5 Feb, is new enough and long enough. However, the article contains a lot of quotes from Twitter, which is a user-generated source, and so unreliable and usually WP:UNDUE (see WP:RSPTWITTER). @Left guide: the Twitter sources must be replaced with reliable coverage (removing the info if there is no reliable coverage). Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 17:02, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that actress Barbara Kurdej-Szatan became famous for playing in mobile phone commercials?

• • Reviewed:

Artemis Andromeda (talk) 16:39, 6 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Alt1: ... that this actress became famous from appearing in mobile phone commercials? Artemis Andromeda (talk) 11:58, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems: - Potential BLP issues

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Article is new enough and long enough. Earwig shows no issues in English, but this is taken on good faith since it is translated from the Polish language. I was unable to complete multiple spot checks and verification due to different reasons. In one case, the links were bad. When I tried to fix them (Encyclopedia of Polish Theatre as only one example), I could not track them down to complete the spot check. Some of the content has borderline BLP issues, such as the claims about the border crisis and Lyme disease. I could not track down the claim for the latter, and it is entirely unclear if the subject was treated for Lyme disease, at which point it refers to something in the past and the date needs to be mentioned, or if she still has symptoms, in which case it needs to be modified to say that she has prolonged symptoms from Post-Treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome. (PTLDS). This is only one of many issues. I could not verify the hooks, even though I was able to read the links in translation. From what I can tell, she was notable before the mobile advertising campaign based on what I read, so the idea of what "famous" means is somewhat ambiguous. I think it's safe to assume that the mobile campaign increased her exposure, so it's not a stretch to say that's what made her famous, but I didn't see that in the sources; maybe I missed it. Finally, there's the overall issue of WP:DYKCOMPLETE in the general sense. There's still grammar issues that need to be resolved, and even though you have a current image in the infobox, it's a terrible image of the subject (mic covering her lower face, strained look) and there are dozens of great images of her, although they are much older, on Commons. Some of what I've written here might be incorrect or mistaken, and I acknowledge that, but some of it is also easy to substantiate. Given all these issues, I would suggest the nominator take a moment to address them and try to cleanup the article. Viriditas (talk) 21:13, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thank you for the insights. And to answer to a few of your points. About the links, I think Encyklopedia teatru works fine now, I will later go and chceck if the rest are ok. About the lyme disease, I will admit that I simply don't have much of medical knowledge and don't usually know what to write about such topics, and I just really copied what Polish article said. I found a few articles talking about it (1, 2, 3. She suffered it in 2016 (and maybe in 2017 as well?), and it seems that it's mentioned in media, because she talked about her experience, and also becouse it seems she was a victim of medical malpractice (physician using wrong method criticised by medical experts, and in general making mistakes in her diagnosis and treatment). I actually wonder if I should just remove it, or actually expand it, and maybe mention all the stuff about issues with treatment. I thought the sources said that she is famous becouse of this comercials. I might go and look for additional sources about this specific topic later. But to kinda explain it, while I think article makes her look more famous in retrospect by just writing down all the stuff she did up to that point, she wasn't actually famous back then, and was mostly juat a regular person still trying to 'break out' as I think saying goes. For example, while I listed a few to shows she appeared in, it were mostly just background roles, sometimes with small dialogue. She, at least in my opinion, indeed became famous and recognizable nation-wide thanks to those comercials, since they were a huge success overall. I would even argue, that's what really propelled her career. Also, and this is just my personal opinion, I still think she's mostly still known primarily from those comercials to an average viewer. Also, about the picture, I personally thought she looked nice in the one currently used in the infobox. But I could change it to an older picture, though I think it was less flattering (idk if that matters to be honest though). Sincerely, Artemis Andromeda (talk) 22:31, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mind if you leave the current image. This could be a cultural difference. In my culture that kind of image may be perceived differently. I've read elsewhere that photos of people in Eastern Europe that show them looking serious without a smile are preferred. As for Lyme disease, the article says she has it. But you say she has been treated for it, and if so, maybe expand upon it. Celebrities can often do a lot to bring attention to public health issues, so there is educational value there for the reader. It's also the case that climate change and other factors are increasing the prevalence of the disease around the world, so it's a timely issue. Comparing this version to the Polish wiki, I find that the hook is supposedly cited to Jak to się stało?, an interview between Bober and Kurdej-Szatan. However, you have it listed as published in 2021, when it was published in 2022. Perhaps the interview took place in 2021. Also, this is listed by EAN 978-83-96-1010-2-0. There's still issues with the article. I notice that Polish wiki also uses a better image in the infobox, which is current. Viriditas (talk) 01:01, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Artemis Andromeda: I see you have been very active on wiki but have abandoned this review. Do you believe the hook and current version of the article (which you have not edited in response to my concerns) are ready to go? Can you verify that the hook is appropriately sourced? I don't see how any outstanding issues have been resolved. Viriditas (talk) 03:59, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Viriditas: Hi. I'm terribly sorry. Being honest, I have completely forgotten about this article and the nomination. If you want, I could still try working on it and fixing the issues this week.Artemis Andromeda (talk) 18:16, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Artemis Andromeda: As I said before, the article on the Polish Wikipedia is in good shape. All you would need to do is cross-reference the material and make sure it is cited and accurate. And make the changes we discussed. I don’t think it would take you more than 30 minutes. And add a source to the hook that supports it. Viriditas (talk) 20:39, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the film Japanese Girls Never Die was praised by critics for its critique on sexism in Japanese work culture?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Create (song)
• Comment: I don't know how to phrase this hook it. Also, I would like this to be put upon approval on SOHA for the International Women's Day.

Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 10:40, 5 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems: - See comment

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: No issues with eligibility, hook is fine and sourced even if it's not the most interesting. The double digit percentages on Earwig are from review quotes/proper nouns. The film has been released, so the premise section should be a fully-fledged plot section. There are also multiple grammatical errors in the article, including run-on sentences. The flow of the article is also pretty bad (e.g. 12/19 of the non-lead/plot/cast sentences begin with "The film" or slight variations such as "The film's", with 4/7 of the remainder being about reviews that all go "X of Y said Z". Release and marketing are both short and should probably be combined in some way per MOS:FILM. There are serious, but not insurmountable presentation issues that need to be addressed before approval. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 23:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've done some preliminary cleanup work. Also, in the hook, "on" should probably be replaced by "of".

• ALT1: ... that the film Japanese Girls Never Die was praised by critics for its critique of sexism in Japanese work culture? -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 23:46, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Patar knight: Thanks for reviewing, I fix some of the issues you pointed out, tell me if there's more, also, I'm slighly confused with story's phasing, so It hard to make a plot summary but I'll try my best. Also, your suggested hook is much better. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 00:19, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just ping me when the plot summary is written and I'll take another look. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 04:07, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Patar knight:, I had written the plot. I don't know how to write one so this might be a sloppy one and I hope you can help me fix it. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:22, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For one, it's more than 700 words, which is the limit recommended at MOS:FILMPLOT. It should use the narrative present tense (WP:PLOTPRESENT). There's so many tense flips here, I'm not sure what the narrative format of this film even is, and without watching the film, can't really fix the issues. I would recommend reviewing the two pages I linked and rewriting the plot summary. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 22:39, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Patar knight: I done what you are talking about and lower the word count to around 670. Also, as the movie, switches between two people. I retain some of the past tense when character is talking about what happen in the past. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:19, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The plot section (or rather, plot paragraph!) is still very poor with lots of typos (e.g. Masabu/Manabu? Haruka?) and grammatical mistakes and what seem like many prima facie irrelevant details (e.g. exact salaries, exact punishment for vandalism) while lots of essential details are omitted, including but not limited to:

• What job does Haruko have?
• What exactly is Yukio's relationship to the other characters?
• What Yukio's gender is (only revealed after the third namedrop)?
• Why should Aina and Yukio remember Manabu from just seeing him?
• How much time is passing between events? Does the film take place over two days or more?
• Why does Haroko have a missing person poster?
• Was Aina using a fake identity?

From what I can tell the movie seems to follow two main characters (Haruko and Aina) in a linear manner and there is some sort of reveal about the missing posters at the end, which is not explained very well Having multiple protagonists/storylines is a very common feature of movies, so perhaps you can take a look at a film that you have seen from Wikipedia:Featured_articles#Films and see how their plot section is written and try to emulate it here. Given that the plot section is in this state, it is probably necessary to have brief descriptions of the characters in the Cast section as well, which would alleviate some of the issues. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 07:08, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Patar knight: Sorry for the late reply, the movie does not seems state how much time has passed each scene, as even the reviews by users on Eiga.com talks about how confusing the story is. There is a lot of details was missing in the movie. this is the pirated version of the movie on dailymotion (I don't think there is a english platform where this can watched legally) if you want to watch it for yourself.

I don't think I can answer most of the questions above, but I have fixed most of the issues I can fixed. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:24, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Patar knight: The prep set for International Women's Day is now open, please return to this nomination when you can.--Launchballer 13:03, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I took a brief look at the pirated film version to try and get a grasp on the plot. It seems pretty clear that the two main plotlines are (mostly?) happening at different times since Haruko is obviously not missing yet in her scenes while the Aina plotline resolves around creating art around Haruko's missing poster (which has a 2015 date) until apparently near the end, when Haruko shows up with a child. I would suggest the plot be rewritten in a way similar to The Godfather Part II which also follows two different timelines. Also, since we have access to the film credits, a fuller cast section can be written in accordance with MOS:FILMCAST (e.g. multiple roles currently described in the plot do not have listed actors in the cast section, and one actor in that section has a role not named in the plot). -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 20:46, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Patar knight: I don't know if it helps, but I had a go at reordering the Plot section myself. I got hold of a cast list from Themoviedb and added it as an invisible comment - @Miminity:, I don't speak Japanese, so please verify it and publish it.--Launchballer 07:45, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: Thanks for the help, Yes it is true base (though I tweak a little bit) on this Eiga.com Source, though do I have to source it or leave it as it is. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:06, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That depends. If you got it from the film, you can leave it unsourced; if you got it from somewhere else, you really should cite that. Ball's in Patar knight's court.--Launchballer 13:12, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer:  Done Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:16, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Patar knight: There is a date request for the next set to be queued. What else needs to be done here?--Launchballer 16:24, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm willing to AGF that the credits are correct, but the plot summary is still a mess with no delineation between the two timelines. Last week, I suggested following the format of The Godfather Part II, which still has not been done. That article has a short out of universe blurb at the top to introduce the two timelines, a subsection for the past with Vito Corleone and followed by a subsection for the present with Michael Corleone, and then a short bit at the end where they include the ending flashback, which for this would probably just be the ending where they apparently tie up the timelines. Another example of this plot summary structure is Memento, which also separates out the two different timelines until the unifying ending segment. I would rather not have to watch an 1h40m film myself as the reviewer, so I would prefer if the original nominator did that. If there's major push to get a special queue for International Women's Day (right now there's only one entry in the holding area), I can see if I have time later this week (please ping me if that's the case). -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 20:26, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The set I had in mind is currently in queue 7, but it may have to go back. I added a couple of section headers and an introductory sentence.--Launchballer 20:51, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Now prep 3, but I also added a short "Ending" subsection, so this should be done.--Launchballer 12:40, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Spanish mezzo-soprano Ana María Iriarte (pictured) made her debut in Valencia in 1945, retired from the stage as Carmen in Bordeaux in 1960, and created a foundation promoting zarzuela in 2006.? Source: several, including [19]
  • Reviewed: Unity Temple

Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:54, 13 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Suggesting a new hook:

ALT1 ... that zarzuela performer Ana María Iriarte made her professional debut in a show that had not been performed in 44 years?

Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:00, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the suggestion, but what does it say about her? Retiring at age 32 from a glamourous career (role and theatre), but still active at age 80+ seems much more unusual to me, and I believe "zarzuela" needs to be mentioned, not some general "show". The word "professional" is long and seems to add nothing, imho. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:37, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The idea is to make more people click on the article and learn more about Irarte's accomplishments. Frankly, the first hook is not going to achieve that, and if that hook runs, I imagine it will do very poorly in terms of readership. I was actually trying to go with a hook regarding the length of her career but couldn't think of a way to express that. Mentioning "zarzuela" seems unnecessary per WP:DYKTRIM: we're trying to make hooks as concise and direct to the point as possible, not more complicated. Finally, as always, any hook is supposed to be in the interests of the reader, not the nominator, so what is more interesting and unusual to you may not be to the reader, especially the hoi polloi who is largely unfamiliar with classical music and opera. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:48, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about seeing you waste your time. I believe that "did you know ..." is about knowledge, knowledge about the specific subject, and you will not change that. I am sorry that - because this was a new article, translated by two editors wo both had little time - the article was not ready in time for "Recent deaths", where a few thousand would have looked just for mentioning her name, and we are stuck with DYK. The specific thing good to know about this singer was zarzuela, while any reader who knows mezzo-soprano would think opera instead, and any reader who doesn't know mezzo-soprano will not be interested anyway. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:59, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

... any reader who doesn't know mezzo-soprano will not be interested anyway. Please read WP:DYKINT again: The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest in the topic. That is the wrong mindset to have on DYK and in fact is arguably the complete opposite of what DYKINT suggests. Hooks are meant to appeal precisely to the people who "don't know", not only to those that do. That's the whole point behind DYKINT. In any case, I have changed "mezzo-soprano" to "zarzuela performer", I only went with mezzo-soprano because that's what the original hook went with.

I should also note that "show" is the most appropriate wording in this case anyway since the article doesn't directly specify that El soñador was a zarzuela, and unless that is rectified, saying it was a zarzuela without being supported by the article would likely lead to a challenge at WT:DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:02, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

She wasn't a zarzuela performer, - too narrow. Neither an opera nor a zarzuela performance would be called a "show", - that unprofessional wording is not consistent with the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:28, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Considering recent issues with one of Gerda's other nominations regarding sourcing, I'd like to ask 4meter4 if the sourcing for the article is adequate or not. Several of the sources like El Pais seem independent to me at least, but as I'm not well-versed with opera sources, this is just a double check. This is asking only about the sourcing, not the hook proposals. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:07, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No sourcing issues on this one. It's mainly sourced to the GSL which is an excellent tertiary source, but also has reliable secondary sources.4meter4 (talk) 01:25, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's easy when you have the GSL, but (naturally) we have problems with the younger singers performing after it was last published. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Gerald Shirtcliff used a fake identity and engineering degree during the construction of the CTV Building?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Anton Drexler

―Panamitsu (talk) 23:36, 9 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Just looking through the first paragraph and a bit, I'm seeing quite a few errors that presumably emerged in the attempt to paraphrase from the sources. Article says clarinet instead of cornet. Says he participated in choir at school while source says he was a choirboy (could be in church?) Says left college, which might be a localism but really should say secondary school. Could you perhaps go through the sources again to make sure they're not being misrepresented in the article? --Paul_012 (talk) 21:16, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've spent about 1.5 hours going through the article to fact check everything. I did make a few more corrections. And yes, in New Zealand, secondary school is for some reason called college, but I've changed it to "secondary school" to remove the confusion for international readers as you've suggested. ―Panamitsu (talk) 07:36, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the effort. I've now gone through the article. Very interesting subject, though the article feels a bit confusing to follow due to the non-chronological structure. It makes sense that his role in the CTV Building and the investigation should be mentioned separately, given their prominence, but his employment at Williams Construction should at least be mentioned in the main chronology of the Career section, so the reader isn't confused when the focus jumps backward from 2009 to 1986. The GST fraud arrest and conviction should be moved to where it happened in chronological order, per MOS:CHRONOLOGICAL. The reader is also sort of left hanging by the lack of conclusion to the CTV Building case (the article should probably mention that the Royal Commission ultimately pressed no charges, nor did Shirtcliff face any legal consequences in New Zealand apart from the GST case). I'll try to see if I can do some further copyediting later (unless you or someone gets to it first).

As far as DYK is concerned, though, the article is long enough, and was newly published from draft (it's been long in the making, huh). As a BLP, without a conviction we need to be careful with the labels the article uses. The opening sentence saying "convicted fraudster", which relates to the less significant DST fraud case, right next to his role in the CTV Building, is potentially misleading. "During the construction he identified with the name Will Fisher" is also incorrect? As far as I can tell he only used that name in Australia. This also invalidates the hook, which will have to be reworded. I'll try to address the article issues when I get to that copyedit. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:34, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Jarrad Searby left the Proud Boys after he became angry with their disavowal of neo-Nazism? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240620232546/https://www.smh.com.au/national/from-kickboxing-to-adolf-hitler-the-neo-nazi-plan-to-recruit-angry-young-men-20210817-p58jfq.html
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Forbidden City cats
  • Comment: Open to any hook suggestions.

TarnishedPath^talk 07:54, 16 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that some pale stonecrops (pictured) in Spain closely resemble Israeli specimens, while neighboring plants in Spain can look vastly different?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flying saucer

Surtsicna (talk) 19:31, 11 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that pop music originated from German techno?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Leibel Bergman

Lazman321 (talk) 07:54, 11 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that both a statue of Lord Botetourt - and a medal (pictured) named for him - have been the subject of replicas made for the College of William & Mary?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Socialite Rank (a combo hook)
• Comment: About four hours late on nominating Lord Botetourt (statues), so apologies there.

Pbritti (talk) 00:41, 16 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that a cannon used by Napoleon in his Russian Campaign (pictured) was later repurposed as a pile driver to create the foundation of the St. George Utah Temple?

• • ALT1: ... that Brigham Young altered the architecture of the St. George Utah Temple (pictured) from the afterlife?

*Source: https://www.deseret.com/2003/7/11/19734272/temple-burns-151-but-not-angel/ "In the case of the St. George Temple, the fire became a local legend. Brigham Young had never liked the short, squat original temple steeple, and when the fire occurred — after his death — officials sighed and concluded that President Young was directing temple architecture from the afterlife. The new, taller steeple was built according to his stated desire."

• • ALT2: ... that the St. George Utah Temple's baptismal font, modeled after a live ox and supported by twelve iron-cast oxen, was transported by oxen? (pictured)

• • Reviewed: N/A
  • Comment: I put the hooks in order of those I thought would be most intriguing for the recent GA grade for the St. George Utah Temple, a temple of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Since I felt the first was strongest, I put that as the default photo. If we want to make the hook for #1 more of a surprise, I would say instead: "The cannon used" so it is more of a surprise.

Each hook I've listed would go best with a different photo. I couldn't find any rules against having a possibility of different images, so I added links to Wikimedia commons for clarity.

Hook 1 image: The one shown (St. George Temple Visitors Center Cannon.jpg)

Hook 2 image (A front view of the building): St. George Utah Temple 2023-10-02.jpg Caption: The St. George Utah Temple

Hook 3 image: Ox Team that Hauled the Font to St. George Temple, 1874.png Caption: Oxen that hauled the baptismal font

For those checking the validity of the source, Deseret News is considered generally reliable as a source, per the Latter Day Saint Wiki project movement.^[1]

I went back through this nomination template after the date it was nominated several times and added a few things to make the nomination more clear. March 1st I added some links to images to clarify things. However, the nomination itself was done within 7 days per the DYK rules, which is shown in the edit history of this template. This is my second DYK, so I'm not perfectly familiar with the rules, but I wanted to make things clearer while also showing that I am complying with the time rule.

Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 02:43, 16 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Nachi Gordon, one of the youngest agents to sign an NBA player, transitioned from sports management to founding Meaningful Minute, a platform delivering daily inspirational videos?

• ALT1: ... that Nachi Gordon, who started his career as a sports agent at 22, now co-hosts the Meaningful People Podcast, interviewing influential figures in the Jewish community? Source: https://amimagazine.org/2021/09/30/nachi-gordons-meaningful-minute/ https://mishpacha.com/in-the-space-of-a-minute/
• ALT2: ... that Nachi Gordon, after working as a sports agent at Madison Square Garden, founded Meaningful Minute, which now includes an app and a podcast network? Source: https://amimagazine.org/2021/09/30/nachi-gordons-meaningful-minute/ https://mishpacha.com/in-the-space-of-a-minute/
• Reviewed:

Yeshivish613 (talk) 21:15, 12 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Not a review, but I feel that the hooks may vaguely sound promotional. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:09, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Given that this is a basketball-related topic, asking TonyTheTiger if he has any ideas. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:23, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that although Zimbabwe does not experience snowfall, it participated in the 2014 Winter Olympics?

• Reviewed: n/a
• Comment: FYI, I might not reply fast on this nomination.

🐝 B33net 🐝 15:40, 12 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• General eligibility:
• New enough:
• Long enough:
• Other problems:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - n
• Interesting: - n
• Other problems: - ?

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Drive-by nomination. The issue is that the hook is not particularly interesting, many tropical nations that do not snow have participated in the Winter Olympics. Also, the source does state that Zimbabwe had not had snowfall in 40 years... except it's the skier who said that, "I don't think there has been any recorded snowfall in Zimbabwe in something like the last 40 years," the 20-year-old skier said in a telephone interview., I would not consider this quote to be reliable. @B33net: jolielover♥talk 14:13, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not only that, but the claim is contradicted by a quick search: apparently it may have snowed in Zimbabwe in the 1930s, but more importantly, there have been reports of snow in more recent years (which may or may not be accurate, but at the very least it makes the claim questionable). I don't know if the following would be considered interesting, but the article is rather sparse on hooky material, thus:

ALT1 ... that Luke Steyn, Zimbabwe's only athlete during its Winter Olympics debut in 2014, moved to Switzerland when he was two years old and grew up in Europe?

Otherwise, the nomination may sadly have to be rejected for lack of a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:26, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Narutolovehinata5: I did think of that, but most reports (that I saw) about snow in Zimbabwe concluded that it was a country that does not snow, and its last recorded snowfall was 70+ years ago. The reports of snow in Zimbabwe in recent times, though debated, reportedly all happened after his participation. That's what I remember of when I searched info about snow in Zimbabwe when reviewing this hook. I do like your rewording of the hook, though not sure if I should pass it since the nominator has been AWOL from this nom since. Alternatively:

ALT2 ... that Luke Steyn was Zimbabwe's only athlete during its Winter Olympics debut in 2014?

@B33net:, what do you think about the new hooks? jolielover♥talk 16:44, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Jolielover: I agree with the new hooks. I’m trying to make them more intriguing. I feel like the Luke Steyn moving to Switzerland would be a good DYK 🐝 B33net 🐝 11:57, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the entire development of the film Hit N Fun took only about four months from start to finish?

• ALT1: ... that Hit N Fun is the highest-grossing Chinese New Year film of 2025 in Hong Kong, despite earning only about one-third of the previous year's champion? Source: ^[3]
• ALT2: ... that Louise Wong, who has acrophobia, filmed a scene on a vertical water slide in Hit N Fun? Source: ^[4]
• ALT3: ... that Gigi Leung underwent a month of Muay Thai training to prepare for her role in Hit N Fun? Source: ^[5]
• ALT4: ... that Chrissie Chau was injured and needed stitches while filming a fight scene in Hit N Fun? Source: ^[6]
• ALT5: ... that the lead cast of Twilight of the Warriors: Walled In reunited to star in an unrelated film Hit N Fun? Source: ^[7]
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Her Story (2024 film)

Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 14:34, 12 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Prem Bery hosted state visitors (example pictured) at the Central Cottage Industries Emporium, India?

• Reviewed: St Peter's Church, Stapenhill

Whispyhistory (talk) 20:45, 20 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that "Grim Reaper of Love" by the Turtles (1966) is one of the earliest rock singles featuring a quintuple meter (⁵
  ₄) beat?

• • Reviewed:

VirreFriberg (talk) 11:27, 14 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Seems good, valid GA. "first" hook, which needs exceptional sourcing but three reliable sources are provided, which looks good to me. Cannot access but will AGF. However, in the body this claim does not actually seem to be said? ""something in a 5/4 time hadn't really been done in rock'n'roll", and quoted, not sure if it's quoting the musician or a secondary source, not really definitive. Does one of the provided sources say it was "one of the earliest" or equivalent? PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:33, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi, @PARAKANYAA. The Sandoval (2002) source states per verbatim "experiment with something in a 5/4 time that hadn't really been done as far as rock 'n' roll". The liner notes were written by musicologist Andrew Sandoval together with interviews from members of the Turtles!
    • Sorry for late response, you didn't sign so the ping didn't work. I'm not sure if "hadn't really" is enough for WP:DYKDEFINITE. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:09, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that over ninety photographs and several videos were taken of the 1955 Scottsbluff tornado (pictured), which produced cycloidal marks?

• ALT1: ... that the 1955 Scottsbluff tornado (pictured) was the most well-documented tornado in history at the time of the event, including aerial photos of cycloidal marks the tornado produced? Source: https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/40/3/1520-0477-40_3_109.xml
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hayseed Stephens, Template:Did you know nominations/NGC 1700
• Comment: Feel free to suggest another hook. If Cycloidal marks isn't long enough, I'll expand it.

E_F⁵ 17:20, 13 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• The article isn't too bad but "well-photographed" is not a perfect analogue for "well-documented" in both the source and the article. While it might be relatively moot it still seems a little too SYNTH-y. The cycloical marks article really isn't long enough (at all) for DYK. It could be expanded, or you could change the hook to focus just on the Scottsbluff tornado.

Hmm, I also think the claim about being the "best-documented" and indeed all figures for photographs focus on the tornado family - the AMS source you linked is even titled Notes on Scottsbluff, Nebraska, Tornadoes, 27 June 1955 - are we sure the article is even on one single tornado? This is about the most clean-up work I'm comfortable not failing; it's not quite "insurmountable" and I do think it's possible. Let me know when you're done clarifying everything and I'll finish my review. Departure– (talk) 21:25, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Departure–: Will do shortly. How about that the 1955 Scottsbluff tornado (pictured) produced "unusual markings" later determined to be cycloidal marks? Debolding cycloidal marks gets rid of the length issue, as nonbolded links in the hook don't have quality standards. Will do the rest shortly once I finish up Draft:1920 Hackleburg–Phil Campbell tornado (which is surprisingly a real event). E_F⁵ 21:33, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Shabbos Kestenbaum, a Harvard Divinity School graduate, sued Harvard University for failing to protect Jewish students from antisemitism?

ALT1: ... that registered Democrat Shabbos Kestenbaum spoke at the Republican National Convention in July 2024 and endorsed Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election?

Yeshivish613 (talk) 15:52, 13 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• The article is new enough, long enough, and the citations appear to be from RS (I will review more closely shortly). The hook is mildly interesting, but there are facts that are more fascinating to the passing viewer in the article. The article needs to be copyedited a bit, as it's very AI-y (the adjectives are a tell). ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:23, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• • Hi @Pbritti: thanks for reviewing this. I have improved the article and added an ALT hook, let me know what you think. Thanks, Yeshivish613 (talk) 12:41, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• • Hi @Pbritti: just to follow up on this review... Yeshivish613 (talk) 15:19, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Having performed a spot check of the cited statements, I have identified a couple issues. A source says "In a school journal, he decried the Iraq War", which is interpreted in the article as he first became politically active, notably opposing the Iraq War at a young age. This is an inaccurate representation of the source. The same article is cited for despite his stated disillusionment with both major political parties, but he expresses no disillusionment with the Republican Party, only discontent with antisemitism among both far-left and far-right factions. I'm not entirely convinced that the article is in a suitable state to run on the main page. Please rewrite while keeping close to the sources. ~ Pbritti (talk) 19:06, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that a model prototype of the Helmover torpedo went out of control while under test and holed a motor launch?

• ALT1: ... that the Helmover torpedo was powered by an internal combustion engine and needed a tank of high-pressure air to supply it while under water? Source: [22] page 135
• ALT2: ... that the Helmover torpedo was built using some scrapped parts from unserviceable Merlin aero engines?

Source: Lloyd, Ian (1978). Rolls-Royce: The Merlin at War. London: Palgrave Macmillan UK. p. 93. ISBN 9780333240168. […] employ[ed] Merlin scrap

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kailash Puri

AntientNestor (talk) 11:44, 13 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that in 1935, when Sequoites dakotensis (pictured) was first described as a member of the genus Sequoia, it was common for such species to be known only by their fossilized cones?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shabbos Kestenbaum

Pbritti (talk) 05:12, 13 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• This is currently at the wrong taxonomic placement, see here and the affinity is uncertain as of 2002 [23]--Kevmin § 16:09, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Kevmin: Those are helpful sources and will be utilized to further improve the article. Regarding the wrong taxonomic placement, I'm seeing Sequoiites dakotensis, though this seems to be the use of an accepted alternative name for early examples in the genus Sequoia. Am I mistaken here? This is not my area of expertise, so I will be wholly deferring to your judgement. Thanks for digging those sources up! ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:03, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • A 2014 North America Research Group publication appears to agree with the Sequoia classification of Sequoia dakotensis as Sequoia. So the 2002 paper is contradicted by a more recent publication https://propagationnation.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Lowe2014_GeologicHistoryGiantSequoia.pdf --Bubblesorg (talk) 18:19, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Pbritti: Sequoites is not an alternative name for Sequoia, it is a fossil genus name, and currently the species is still placed in it by the Internation Fossil Plant Names Index overseen by paleobotanist Alexander B. Doweld. @Bubblesorg: NARG (North America Research Group) is an ameture fossil club in the Pacific North West, it does not qualify as a reliable source for wikipedia--Kevmin § 14:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • Counter, the NARG is made up of reliable advisors. Gary D. Lowe is indeed a real specialist in redwood trees and has many more reliable papers. Also, NARG thing was cited by a peer reviewed paper-https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10806-024-09942-0.
          • @Kevmin and Bubblesorg: While I am familiar with amateur botanists writing reliable sources, I am going to defer to peer review publications and a taxonomic database on this. I have moved the page and made changes to indicate that the currently accepted name is Sequoites dakotensis and that the status of the plant is uncertain. I don't know how to fix the taxonomic infobox so that the genus Sequoites functions, but I can give that a shot tonight. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:00, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
            • Gary D. Lowe is not a amateur botanist, he is a real specialist. Also not, do not move the thing. It is not the accepted name. There is still a link for Sequoia dakotensis (https://www.ifpni.org/species.htm?id=C5C500AA-BA29-4A36-B914-5696D1B33A65). Please do not move anything around. I just reversed the change. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:03, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

He may be a specialist, but a taxonomic authority prefers Sequoites. The link you provided above considers Sequoia dakotensis a synonym of Sequoites dakotensis. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:10, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• The website is just a taxonomic names list, it does not speak to a consensus per say. Also, it does not confirm synonyms here, it just puts this as saying that some authors consider it a synonym or basionym. https://www.ifpni.org/species.htm?id=C5C500AA-BA29-4A36-B914-5696D1B33A65. Bring me papers and books. Actually the Sequoites dakotensis discussion should be seperate from this discussion. Sequoites is not the same thing as Sequoia from a paleobotanical sense. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:19, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Kevmin: I was not expecting a long-dead tree to cause such disruption! I'm requesting a stay on this review until the taxonomic issues are sorted out. @Bubblesorg: multiple taxonomic authorities superior to a non-peer-reviewed amateur book reject the Sequoia name. The plant has been reassigned and remains somewhat uncertain, per Kevmin. Cut-and-paste moves are disruptive. We can discuss this further on the talk page. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:24, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What multiple papers? Most papers either suggest Sequoia or Parataxodium. Only parts of the plant are assigned to Sequoites. You did not have any consensus here to change it. I only used the Gary point to respond to the other person when they questioned the reliability of the source, I am not using it here to keep the name as Sequoia instead of Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:33, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pbritti agreed, we should reach a stable version of the article and correctly cover the taxonomy issue (some authors fully and wrongly ignoring Bell) before we continue the nom here, I'll have to step out from reviewing as I have now added notable information to the article.--Kevmin § 15:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bubblesorg This discussion needs to be at the article talk page. The IFPNI listing at Sequoia dakotensis specifically links it to Sequoites dakotensis as a jr synonym, and notes it as the older name. I also just added a summary from Kevin Aulenbacks book on the Horseshoe Canyon Formation, where he specifically also uses Sequoites dakotensis, connects it to PArataxodium and links several other organ taxa into a larger whole plant reconstruction based on foliage, ovulate cone, pollen, and pollen cone morphology. All that we now seem to be missing is a formal paper making the official moves and synonymies.--Kevmin § 15:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

He linked it to many genera not just Sequoites. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:40, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question, does the Saurian field guide count as a reliable source? Probably not. Bubblesorg (talk) 15:49, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

new reviewer needed as I have substantially added and edited the article now, also the page move of the nomination here is creating editing access issues wit the nomination templates.-Kevmin § 15:46, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that when not playing pro football, Emil Beasy (pictured) was a firefighter?

• ALT1: ... that "Busy" Beasy's NFL career lasted one game? Source: nickname, one game
• ALT2: ... that when not playing pro football, "Busy" Beasey (pictured) was a firefighter? Source: same
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2012 Southern Indiana tornado
• Comment: To do QPQ within 24 hours.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:20, 21 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that NFL player Rip Owens (pictured) was described as "corking good" – yet only played three games?

• ALT1: ... that before playing in the NFL, Rip Owens worked at a steel mill? Source: same GB Press Gazette source
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Alfred Wertheimer
• Comment: To complete QPQ within 24 hours.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:12, 21 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that seven prosecutors from the U.S. Department of Justice resigned in response to orders from acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove to dismiss corruption charges against New York City Mayor Eric Adams?
  • Reviewed:

Remember (talk) 15:43, 17 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Bini's "Blink Twice" music video garnered one million views in just 12 hours?

• Reviewed:

ROY is WAR Talk! 11:55, 17 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that an image of a skull is used to express happiness?

• Reviewed:

AstonishingTunesAdmirer 連絡 16:03, 15 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• I will work on this review, please bear with me as it's my first review ever TNM101 (chat) 05:39, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Checklist:

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: I will ask another reviewer to take a quick look at this, since it's mentioned at WP:DYKRI TNM101 (chat) 05:39, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that after getting ousted by the Southern Transitional Council, the governor of the Socotra archipelago fled to Oman and continued to govern the archipelago using WhatsApp?

• Reviewed:

𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 16:14, 18 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that in the United States Louisiana and Ohio are the only states with Mayor's Courts?

• Reviewed:
• Comment: Under "Mayor's Court" drop-down

Otr500 (talk) 03:46, 16 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - There are at least one non-lead paragraph without sources (see the section Issues of conflicts of interest and bias). There are also failed verifications from sources, for example completely dead and recent sources (ref 5) and sources that links to appearently personal files on OneDrive (ref 4). Also see the comment I gave for the hook's source (ref 2).
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - The source have a failed verification to the hook: it had zero mentions of the word "Ohio", so it's safe to assume that it didn't verify the hook.
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - I'm quite concerned about whether the hook is relevant to the article: it doesn't quite make sense to say that there are two states with Mayor Courts, but linking the bolded link to one of the state's court.

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Earwig said 16.7% simliarity, but Court costs section seems like the list is a mostly-copy of the source (with some modifications), so I'm not entirely sure about this. There are some style issues with the page, eg. starting a list without starting a new line and not using a list in the See also section. Overall, well done on creating the article, but there is some work required to be eligible DYK levels. (PS: I'm a new reviewer, other reviwers: please correct me if necessary) Replicative Cloverleaf (talk) 12:03, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that in 1987 Dinesh Chandra Dakua became the first member of the Rajbanshi people to become a West Bengal government minister?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/CSS-10 (aircraft)

Soman (talk) 16:38, 15 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Date, size, QPQ, copyvio and ref spotchecks, all GTG. I am mildly concerned about the hook, which may be passable but is pretty boring. How about one based on the fact that his house was attacked at some point? It could draw more views while still being neutral (unlike drawing attention to his political views, I think). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:46, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that thanks to samples of mosaic from Pompeii provided by mineralogist Johann Jacob Ferber, it could be demonstrated that these were made of glass paste, not stone? Source: Beretta 2007, p. 104.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Samsum ant

Yakikaki (talk) 16:20, 15 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that the political and media storm around so-called African gangs in Australia has been described by academics as a moral panic? Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0147176721001061?via%3Dihub
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Aon v Australian National University

TarnishedPath^talk 14:26, 15 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Olivia Rodrigo's song "Logical" was inspired by her Bizaardvark co-star Madison Hu when she said, "It's just not logical, it's just not logical," in reference to one of her own relationships?

• ALT1: ... that "Logical" is one of just two tracks on Guts to feature a songwriter other than Olivia Rodrigo and Dan Nigro? Source: CD booklet, but could also be verified by clicking View Credits on each individual track on Apple Music
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/As Long As You're Mine

NØ 05:13, 15 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Olivia Rodrigo is a popular artist at the moment, but I really don't see how either hook as currently written (especially ALT1) is interesting to a broad/non-specialist audience. ALT0 might be more promising if it gets a trimming or rewrite. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:06, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT2: ... that Olivia Rodrigo's song "Logical" was inspired by a conversation she had with her Bizaardvark co-star Madison Hu during a night out?

I have added ALT2, Narutolovehinata5.--NØ 13:48, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The new wording is okay-ish, but now that I think about it, I wonder if an alternative hook that isn't reliant on unfamiliar names would be a better option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:39, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ALT3: ... that Olivia Rodrigo performs "Logical" on a crescent moon prop (pictured) that suspends from the ceiling on her Guts World Tour? Source: Nylon, USA Today

You can have a look at ALT3 in case that's preferable.--NØ 13:56, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Requesting a review.--NØ 07:12, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Marine Sergeant Nicole Gee helped evacuate infants and females as part of Operation Allies Refuge, and helped save over 124,000 lives in the largest U.S. airlift operation ever?

• Reviewed:

DMVHistorian (talk) 01:04, 17 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• @DMVHistorian: The current hook cannot be used as it is far above the 200-character limit. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:40, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • • ALT1:... that Marine Nicole Gee assisted in evacuating civilians for Operation Allies Refuge, and helped save over 124,000 lives in the largest U.S. airlift operation ever? Maximilian775 (talk) 03:37, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Italian-Sri Lankan journalist Nadeesha Uyangoda co-hosts the podcast Sulla razza (About Race) which explains Anglo-American terminology around racism? Source: " Author and journalist Nadeesha Uyangoda created Sulla Razza (About Race) in April 2020 with two co-hosts. Their aim is to explain Anglo-American terms like “tokenism,” “the n-word,” and “BIPOC” and discuss their relevance to life in Italy. Through this project, Uyangoda is addressing another issue in Italy that is often overlooked by the mainstream media: the lack of a shared vocabulary to talk about race." https://niemanreports.org/in-europe-podcasters-of-color-make-their-own-space-for-conversations-on-race/
  • ALT1: ... that due to her experience of Italy's immigration policies, Sri Lankan journalist Nadeesha Uyangoda has been outspoken on migrant rights? Source: "Uyangoda was speaking at the Festival of New Italian Generations, organized by Next Generation Italy, a grassroots group of first- and second-generation Italians. Their work aims to give a voice to young Italians with immigrant backgrounds who do not feel sufficiently represented in Italian politics and are now asserting the importance of their citizenship rights and demanding fair representation in politics. It’s a rare opportunity for Italians to hear and learn directly from those affected by Italy’s immigration policies—rather than from politicians with no skin in the game." https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/12/05/italian-citizenship-culture-blood-immigration/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Operation Dugo

Lajmmoore (talk) 08:52, 16 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that after playing in the NFL, Tommy Cronin worked in the dairy business?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tim Urban (author)
• Comment: Looks like I'm slightly late; hoping for an extension per WP:DYKG: The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request..

BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:18, 26 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• I think this is filed erroneously under Feb 17 noms, as this was promoted on Feb 18. Regardless, the nomination is within the grace period and accepted without concern. The GA promotion is good, with no issues regarding plagiarism and images. The hook is cited and sourced, but I worry that it is not particularly interesting. Perhaps borrow some of the enthusiastic quotations from the article to help jazz this up? Other than that, get the QPQ done and we're good! ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:35, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Added QPQ. Will look to develop alt hooks tomorrow. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:32, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• A bunch of potential options – just throwing out everything that struck me as a possibility:
  • ALT1 ... that Tommy Cronin didn't "know what 'quit' means"?
  • ALT2 ... that Tommy Cronin, one of "the classiest basketball players who ever donned a high school uniform," played in the NFL?
  • ALT3 ... that Tommy Cronin was described as having "made a name for himself" in the NFL, yet did not play in more than five games?
  • ALT4 ... that Tommy Cronin was the last person from his high school to play in the NFL – in 1922? or ALT5 ... that Tommy Cronin was the last person from his school to play in the NFL – in 1922?
  • ALT6 ... that Tommy Cronin played both basketball and football in high school, college, and professionally?
• Do any of those sound good? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:03, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that brass casting, which later became a hallmark of Benin art, was first introduced to Igodomigodo during Uwa's reign?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Two

Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:18, 24 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that according to the Neue Deutsche Biographie, the language in Rudolf Herzog's novels is reminiscent of Kaiser Wilhelm II?

• ALT1: ... that Rudolf Herzog's novels have been described as characterised by the "sentimentality and harshness, pomp and gentleness" of Kaiser Wilhelm II? Source: same as above
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Golden Rondelle Theater

Uriahheep228 (talk) 20:38, 23 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Conan Gray loves watching people in college?

• ALT1: ... that people watching is about people-watching? Source: https://www.nme.com/news/music/conan-gray-almost-burns-down-a-cafe-in-the-new-video-for-people-watching-2995845
• ALT2: ... that Conan Gray wrote "People Watching" after watching people and eavesdropping on their conversations? Source: https://www.nme.com/news/music/conan-gray-almost-burns-down-a-cafe-in-the-new-video-for-people-watching-2995845
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Geometry of Quantum States
• Comment: I'm submitting the first two hooks as a possibility for WP:DYKAPRIL; ALT2 is a general-fact hook for any other day.

TheDoctorWho (talk) 22:31, 17 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Not a review, but ALT0 and ALT1 violate WP:DYKFICTION and I'm all ears as to how ALT2 meets WP:DYKHOOKBLP.--Launchballer 20:04, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Launchballer: I can see the issues with ALT1 and DYKFICTION, but ALT0 isn't fiction. The song doesn't ever mention college, and this was based off a quote in which the artist said "There’s nothing I love more than watching them exist in their little world, where seemingly nobody else exists to them. The song’s lyrics are things I’ve eavesdropped off of times I used to spend people watching at the café in college." It references what the lyrics are inspired by, but is referring to his real-life experience.

Now, that said, I could see the potential of it also being a HOOKBLP issue, but not fiction. Regardless (and a note to anyone reviewing this), seeing as all three of these are potentially still no go's I'll try to see if I can grab some other alternate hooks within the next 48 hours. Requesting that this not be failed before that time. TheDoctorWho (talk) 23:05, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Proposing some alt hooks because of the above:

• ALT3: ... that the music video for Conan Gray's song "People Watching" was inspired by a joke? Source: https://www.coupdemainmagazine.com/conan-gray/17732
• ALT4: ... that some of the lyrics in Conan Gray's song "People Watching" were based on things he heard while eavesdropping on couples? Source: https://www.coupdemainmagazine.com/conan-gray/17732

These obviously aren't for April Fool's anymore. While the second one is sort of just a reword, it places less emphasis on the person and instead on the song which should solve the DYKHOOKBLP issue, I believe. TheDoctorWho (talk) 06:50, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Full review needed.--Launchballer 12:16, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that when Lydie Pongault was appointed to the Congolese government, her role replaced that of two other ministers? Source: Two ministeries were tourism, and culture. For tourism: "Lydie Pongault, former advisor for Culture, inherits the ministry of the same name, to which Tourism has been added" https://archive.wikiwix.com/cache/index2.php?url=https://www.jeuneafrique.com/1380041/politique/congo-autour-danatole-collinet-makosso-un-gouvernement-retouche-plus-que-remanie/#federation=archive.wikiwix.com&tab=url

For culture: "Lydie Pongault, appointed Minister of Cultural Industry" https://archive.wikiwix.com/cache/index2.php?url=https://www.rtbf.be/article/congo-brazzaville-leger-remaniement-gouvernemental-le-ministre-des-finances-limoge-11073524#federation=archive.wikiwix.com&tab=url

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bechbretha but for article review of Muirbretha

Lajmmoore (talk) 21:41, 17 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that NFL player and military officer Wes Carlson (pictured) used a different last name from what he was was born with due to an elementary school teacher's misspelling?

• ALT1: ... that Wes Carlson was a military officer for a ship named after an island he helped capture? Source: same ("he transferred to the Tarawa, a new carrier, and strangely, named for one of the islands that had been captured by Carlson's task force.")
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gerry Snyder
• Comment: It looks like I'm slightly late. Hoping for an extension per WP:DYKG: The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:25, 26 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Ronald Reagan's friends thought his his official White House portrait didn't look like him?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Joseph Raphael De Lamar House

No Swan So Fine (talk) 22:14, 25 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Simon Neal portrayed complex characters in 20th-century operas, including Dr. Schön and Jack the Ripper in Lulu, and Nekrotzar in Ligeti's Le Grand Macabre? Source: several reviews
  • Reviewed: Shefa Salem

Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 25 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• The issue with the hook is that it is, to quote Launchballer, "person-does-their-jobby", and thus may not meet WP:DYKINT ("The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest in the topic"). I can't see much else usable in the article that isn't "Neal doing this and that role" other than the review, but review hooks have tended to underperform on DYK, so it might not be worth it to pursue that angle. If more information could be found about his business career (the article doesn't elaborate on if he actually pursued business or not, or what the details were), then maybe that would work. Also pinging 4meter4 or CurryTime7-24 for possible hook suggestions, particularly for anything I may have missed. Otherwise, the nomination may have to be rejected for lack of a hook that meets WP:DYKINT. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:36, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I don't think that "Jack the Ripper" needs any special knowledge, - and "Le Grand Macabre" should raise curiosity without special knowledge. - If you say performing a role is "doing their job", you could say the same of an architect creating a house, or a painter creating a portrait, but no: al these things are more than just doing their job. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I haven't found the slightest bit about his business career beyond the mentioning, and even if, I'd not want to make something a living person left behind a hook, while what that person does exceptionally well, recognised from Australia to the UK, would not be mentioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:46, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm commenting because I was pinged. I would have suggested just leaving the operas out because being known for playing complex characters in 20th century operas is a highly niche career and I think interesting. However, we can't do that because in looking in the sources that part of the hook fact isn't verifiable to the cited materials which do not describe the characters as "complex" or name Simon in association with that rep as a career focus. They very well may be compex, but the sources don't support that fact. In other words, that claim is original to the article and should be removed as WP:SYNTH. I also agree that role listings doesn't work except in rare circumstances as a hook. At this point, I see nothing "hooky" in the article.

I'm also concerned about the sourcing, because Gerda has once again submitted an article built almost predominantly from theatre bios which are PR materials that lack independence from the subject. This could end up at WP:AFD/WP:ERRORS if it heads to the main page in this state for lack of independent sourcing. I'm not saying these sources are unreliable, but that there aren't enough independent ones with WP:SIGCOV to demonstrate WP:GNG currently. The article should not be largely built from artist bios on the websites of theaters that employ the subject. For one, those are often written by the subect or their talent management, and on top of that they tend to have nothing original to say about the artist which is why the article is boring. Using these types of sources a little here or there is ok, but currently more than half of the citations are to those sources. It shouldn't be hard to track down some newspaper/magazine reviews of the performances and swap them out with the theatre bio citations. That would stop the article from having an issue during its run at DYK.

Even better, it would be good to locate some sort of original coverage of the singer in a secondary source that isn't just a production or performance review (an artist profile piece). Those type of materials tend to have more personal information which often lead to more suitable hooks. Gerda, once again please stop submitting articles cited predominantly to non-independent materials, and ones where independent coverage of the artist is fleeting in secondary sources. I'm not seeing one particularly strong independent source. None of the independent sources are about Neal as the primary subject which is problematic, and the reviews are mainly only a sentence or two long in focusing on Neal. The reviews of Lulu are the strongest sources. I've also found a couple cited places which the content they are supposed to be verifying can't be found. Perhaps you put in the wrong source when juggling between references? One ot the sources didn't even name Simon at all anywhere. Once the referencing has been significantly improved we can revisit this, but not until then. Ping Narutolovehinata5 and me when this is ready for a second look. Best.4meter4 (talk) 15:08, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the wrong links (I hope). - I struck "complex" in the hook. May readers find out themselves. (Sorry, I was in a hurry when I noticed that it was last hours to nominate, and already regret that I tried.) The biographies of the four houses that I used are strictly informative about performances, - please explain what's not neutral about that. If he had begun his career when the GLS was compiled, it would also be a list of performances when and where, no? - I tried and added more reviews, but need to pursue a few other things before searching for more. There are more detailed reviews, but in German and paywalled, - I'd try to avoid that. - I found an interview where he says that he is Irish-British and began singing on stage at age 36. Please check if that is acceptable as a ref. - I found no other source for a place of birth than one of the theatre bios, - help welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:46, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously? Gerda Arendt you should be able to understand the difference between the Großes Sängerlexikon and a theatre bio. The GLS is an academic Single-field dictionary independently published by De Gruyter. It is a WP:TERTIARY source mainly; although in places Karl-Josef Kutsch and Leo Riemens provide critical assessment and commentary making it somewhat WP:SECONDARY. In contrast, opera house websites are entirely WP:SELFPUBLISHED by the theatre, and they are not Wikipedia:Independent sources as they employ the artist who is paid by them. Opera house websites are WP:PRIMARY sources, and artist bios (usually written by talent agents) are WP:PRSOURCEs and WP:COISOURCEs. The artist bios have no named authors nor do they have editorial oversight. Are they reliable? Usually (although I have caught some errors over my years of editing; such as artists who worked as a cover singer and never actually performed the part claiming a role at a particular theatre.) Reliability is not the main issue; independence is as is not overusing primary/self-published/PR materials per WP:No Original Research and WP:Verifiability policies. Best.4meter4 (talk) 20:54, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think we have a misunderstanding, possibly my fault. I see - let's take Oper Frankfurt for example - a neutral list of performances. What do you see there that is not neutral? I like the sentence "Simon Neal built up a substantial repertoire while a member of Theater Dortmund's ensemble from 2006 - 2011." That spares a lot of individual opera names if it can be used. It sounds neutral and independent to me. - He would be mentioned in GLS had he performed earlier ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think that quote was written by either a PR talent agent who counts Neal as their client or by the marketing team on staff at Oper Frankfurt, so I don't think we can or should use that quote. Critical assessment needs to come from an independent writer like a critic or academic, not from PR machine created document. I'm not going to get in a back and forth with you on this. You need to reduce the number of citations to non-independent promotional sources, and replace them with independent publications or we can reject the hook. Put in the work to fix it if you want this hook approved.4meter4 (talk) 21:53, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care if this goes to DYK, - as I said, I already regret to have nominated. I'll keep working on adding more refs, but not today, - close to midnight. We will have to disagree about the sentence. I think it describes well, in no promotional tone, what about every singer will do in his first engagement. I'll remove it to please you, because - as you know - I hate these tags. - You have still not told me if you saw anything questionable in the Oper Frankfurt entry, nor if we can use the interview for personal things like at what age he began, which probably nobody can know better than the person. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:54, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think the fact that I tagged it with a "better source" needed, and spent a considerable amount time explaining why theatre bios are not independent sources and that materials written by PR agents should be avoided wherever possible (by that I mean as a last resort). I strongly encourage you to get out of the habit of using these types of sources altogether per WP:NIS. It's fine as a reference point while doing a search for better materials while building an article (such as to learn what they sang where so you can find a review in an independent source) or for using as an external link like IBDB or IMDB, but what makes it in the actual article as a cited source really should be independent materials. If there is a certain fact that you can't support elsewhere it's ok to use these minimally; but by minimal I mean like only two or three sentences of content supported by this type of reference across the entire article; not sixteen citations supporting entire paragraphs of text. Most of what you are supporting with these sources should be supportable through other materials. You can (and must for DYK purposes) dig through German newspaper and opera/classical music magazines and replace the PR materials with independent ones.4meter4 (talk) 23:14, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. Understood before you repeated it. Did you see that I moved two already to external links and commented out much of the other uses? - I'll see for what I can find sources, and then bring back, but it will take time, - I have a Bach cantata waiting for Sunday. - You still didn't answer if the interview can be used as a ref for personal matters, and if you saw anything promotional in the Oper Frankfurt entry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:37, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I thinks its fine to use it to source non-controversial biographical material per WP:ABOUTSELF.4meter4 (talk) 00:30, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Regardless of the sourcing issues, there's really still the issue with the hook, which needs to be addressed. @4meter4: Do you have any suggestions for a broadly interesting hook here? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:04, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. I'm hoping Gerda can locate better sources about this singer, because currently there is nothing in the references used that is particularly interesting/unique.4meter4 (talk) 01:18, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, I am not even interested in a DYK (said above). Secondly, before I can turn to him, I have a Bach cantata (for tomorrow) and a recent death article (for asap) to deal with before turning to him. I think, 4meter4, that the "excessively" tag is no longer justified as it is, because only a few non-controversial facts have no other source right now, but will not take it away myself. I'll add that he appeared on stage of the Royal Opera House on a horse, but would not like such a trivial thing that only mentions his ability to ride, nothing of why he is called to great houses of the world, for a hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:42, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And yet, riding a horse on the stage of the Royal Opera House is unique and interesting and far more hooky. The trivial is often the better choice at DYK unless the core facts themselves are exceptional which they are not in this case. I'll take a look at removing the tags once you tell me you are done editing so I don't have to keep checking back and forth. I suggest proposing the horse fact as a new hook at the same time. There is no reason not to let this get featured at DYK after you have put in so much work, and it appears you have found a fact of interest. Best.4meter4 (talk) 13:03, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can propose such hook, I will not, as explained ;) - I put the work into the article to get rid of shame, not for DYK. You can check the article right now, - I don't think "excessively" describes well the few instances of use for non-controversial facts. I may not get to expanding until next week. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:23, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the tags as requested; although I still think the article lacks a clear independent source with WP:SIGCOV. I'm rejecting this as you have indicated you are not interested in featuring this at DYK or proposing a usable hook. That's your choice.4meter4 (talk) 14:36, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Japanese singer Cindy was once said to have an "angel voice"? Source: エンジェルヴォイスとまで形容されたシンディ山本のヴォーカルもアダルトな曲調に合わせ、しなやかで透き通る歌声を披露しています。/Cindy Yamamoto's vocals, which have been described as an angel voice, are smooth and clear, matching the adult melody.
  • ALT1: ... that Japanese singer Cindy's career began after Stevie Wonder noticed her during her music journalism career? Source: 取材で渡米の際,スティービー・ワンダーに認められ,昭和 60 年にはスティービーとのレコーディングが実現。/While traveling to the United States for an interview, he was recognized by Stevie Wonder, and in 1985 he recorded with Stevie. + 今月の新人 (translated from jawiki; AGF myself)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bill Pulte

ミラP@Miraclepine 15:36, 24 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Gerry Snyder brought the Summer Olympics and Major League Baseball to Montreal?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/John Hogan (motorsport executive)

– Muboshgu (talk) 02:20, 26 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:20, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - minor
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Mostly looks good, although there's two things I note: (1) you still have an "under construction" tag on the article – are you finished with it or no?; (2) you'll need to provide a source for the sentence He was also vice chairman of the Montreal Executive Committee. Otherwise should be good. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:26, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Deputy Speaker of the West Bengal Legislative Assembly Pijush Mukherjee had been a prominent leader in Alipurduar of the movement to merge the Cooch Behar State into West Bengal?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/C. G. Joshi

Soman (talk) 21:00, 19 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that the proprietor of the Samurai Shokai company added a tower to the building resembling that of a castle?

• ALT1: ... that the proprietor of the Samurai Shokai company promoted the foreign practice of shaking hands in Japan? Source: "It was his custom to greet each of the guests with a cheerful smile and a shake of the hand... Although the handshake was, of course, a custom he acquired while living abroad, he had his own interpretation and convictions concerning the gesture. In a collection of essays entitled Life in a Handshake, he once wrote..." Shiraishi, Bon.  Japan Quarterly; Tokyo Vol. 13, Iss. 4, (Oct 1, 1966): 507.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hawaii series by Georgia O'Keeffe

MartinPoulter (talk) 16:21, 19 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that there were five individuals leaders of the Big Three in World War II? Source: see sources in 'Composition of the Big Three'
  • ALT1: ... that Stalin is considered the most successful leader of the Big Three in World War II? Source: Dukes and Kingseed as cited in the relevant sentence
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Demons of the Punjab

_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:13, 19 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Comment: Can I propose ALT2: ... that the Big Three had five members? ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 04:38, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sure! In that short form we could keep it for April Fools even :P --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:08, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Review: Should've indicated that this was expanded instead of created, article passes all DYK checks, contents cited, all clear. Approved ALT2. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 01:26, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am not sure if 'expanded' counts for redirects? Not that's it's a biggie, but if closing admin has a comment here, do ping us :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:08, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You want "Converted from a redirect" instead of "Created", such at The World's Biggest Gang Bang III – The Houston 620. I've updated this.--Launchballer 12:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that in a six-year span, Wayne Davenport (pictured) went from playing college football to coaching football, returning to college, playing in the NFL, returning to coaching and then back to college football?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Barry Leibowitz
• Comment: To do QPQ within 24 hours. Open to other ways of wording the hook.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:17, 27 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that a manuscript of the Greek New Testament Gospels from the 9th century includes musical notation around the text?

• Reviewed:

Stephen Walch (talk) 18:25, 22 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Article promoted to GA within 7 days, accepting offline source in good faith. QPQ is missing. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 19:29, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Jorge Munoz, who once mentored Michael Desormeaux, is now an assistant on Desormeaux's coaching staff at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette? Source: ^[1][2]
  • ALT1: ... that, in two years of college football at Southwestern College in California, Jorge Munoz "rewrote virtually all of Southwestern's offensive record book"? Source: ^[3]
  • Reviewed:

JTtheOG (talk) 09:11, 21 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Full review to follow, but I suggest dropping all hooks except for maybe ALT1. ALT2 isn't that unusual, and the others only appeal to college football fans (a minority outside of the US, even in countries where American football has a following). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:42, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also pinging BeanieFan11 for possible hook suggestions as ALT1 seems marginally interesting to me at best. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

From a quick glance (looking at the ALT0 hook), maybe something like ... that American football coach Jorge Munoz is an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I've modified it to say "American football" instead for the benefit of our non-North American readership. Pinging JTtheOG for their thoughts on the new hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I definitely agree that BeanieFan11's suggestion is easier to understand than my original hook. JTtheOG (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11 and JTtheOG: Thanks! Just one last thing. The current wording could be challenged by other editors per WP:DYKHOOK (the "unlikely to change" criterion). It's true now, but there's a chance it could change before promotion/running. A more future-proof wording may be needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:01, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

... that American football coach Jorge Munoz served as an assistant to a former player he coached? BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:04, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That looks great to me. Would it be considered bad form to do a piped link to Desormeaux? JTtheOG (talk) 07:30, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's optional. Ideally we try to avoid too many blue links in a hook to prevent viewership diversion, but it might not be harmful in this case. I'll leave it to you, and if there are any objections those can be sorted out in prep. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:51, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, I am fine with omitting the additional link. I suppose readers may click on the Munoz link or the reference for more information. JTtheOG (talk) 19:44, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you! I was originally going to review this myself, but the article is pretty dense so that might be a bit tough, so I'll leave the full review to another editor. I've struck all the other proposals, leaving just the most recent wording. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:17, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your help, as this is my first DYK nom. JTtheOG (talk) 23:10, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the "Slicker" "performed so well at cracking skulls"?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Apurbalal Majumdar
• Comment: To complete QPQ within 24 hours. I think this could be a good quirky hook.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:47, 28 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that King Faisal Street (pictured), one of the main thoroughfares in downtown Amman, was used as a public space for Jordan's national events and celebrations?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/S.A. Rawoof

Makeandtoss (talk) 14:58, 23 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• In running DYKcheck on this, it is reported as not passing the length requirement / is classified as a stub even through it appears to. Am unsure if I can contradict / override DYKcheck and so will mark as "maybe" for the moment. Maximilian775 (talk) 03:47, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article being classed as a stub should not be an issue for DYK purposes (and if an article is long enough to qualify for DYK, it is not a stub and the article should be reassessed). DYKcheck only gives yellow for me so I'm not sure what's going on here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:38, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Maximilian775: @Narutolovehinata5: Updated it to B class. Makeandtoss (talk) 17:44, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that 17 years ago today, emos and anti-emos confronted each other in Mexico City, and members of the Hare Krishna movement helped deescalate the situation?

• ALT1: ... that emos and anti-emos confronted each other, but Hare Krishna members deescalated the situation? Source: The same.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hikaru Mori
• Comment: Special occasion request: March 16, the anniversary. I don't know if it can run on April 1 due to how surrealist it was, but I included an alternative hook.

(CC) Tbhotch^™ 03:16, 22 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that after being sold due to its creator's bankruptcy, Benjamin Haydon's work Christ's Entry into Jerusalem was cut from its frame and dragged "like a wet blanket" to save it from a fire?

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wars in the Caucasus

Maximilian775 (talk) 00:19, 22 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• New enough, large enough, Earwig checks out, article generally well looks good. The "like a wet blanket" line isn't in the article, though. There's a lot of great hook material in here - maybe something about him having Newton, Wordsworth, and Volatire in the scene set far before they were born, or the caricatures of his self-promotion? Rusalkii (talk) 03:40, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just confirmed that the line is in the article. Look to the direct left of the "Burma gets aid" headline on the same newspaper page. Maximilian775 (talk) 04:34, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Maximilian775 I meant that it isn't the wikipedia article. My understanding is that all DYK hooks must use information fully contained in the article. Rusalkii (talk) 22:12, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Incorporated wet blanket phrase into article. Maximilian775 (talk) 23:04, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

* ... that University of Indonesia dean Sahati Suharto was sued by one of her expelled students? Source: Basri, Agus; Indrayati, Sri (2 April 1988). "Tidak Lulus Rektor Digugat". Tempo. Retrieved 21 February 2025.

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Big Three (World War II)

Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 00:42, 21 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• I'll have a look at this one. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:09, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• The article was created today and contains 1,607 characters of prose, excluding the infobox. Even deducting a 39 character quote it is still long enough. The article is well written and presented, passes earwig and the three images are all PD. The hook is confirmed in an RS. (IMO both the article and the DYK would be improved if a little more of the information available in this source were used in the article.) The hook is short and interesting. QPQ done.

• General point: The lead has "faculty of math and natural sciences", the article "faculty of exact sciences and natural sciences" and "Faculty of Math and Natural Science". Could the upper-case or lower-case initial letters be standardised. If this can be resolved the nom should be GTG. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:45, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Gog the Mild: From the university brochure: "In its development, the Faculty of Exact Sciences and Natural Sciences was then changed to the Faculty of Mathematics and Natural Sciences in 1982 based on Government Regulation No. 27 of 1982, dated August 14, 1982 regarding the faculties at state universities and institutes." Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 00:33, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So it looks as if all three examples should have upper-case initial letters. I have amended the article accordingly and we are good. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:35, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that football player Herman Martell, who co-founded the alumni association for the Green Bay Packers, only appeared in one NFL game for the team?

• Reviewed: to do
• Comment: To do QPQ within 24 hours.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:33, 2 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• , article is long enough, recently passed GA and is within policy (I reviewed it at GAN!). Hook is short and interesting. Awaiting QPQ, BeanieFan11, please ping me when you have it done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:06, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi @Gonzo fan2007:, fair if you missed this, but per WP:DYKRR you can't do the DYK review for an article you've already done the GA review for. I'll check you're right about it meeting the criteria in a moment. Tenpop421 (talk) 01:09, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• This article, expanded >5x expanded from 302 to 2694 chars from 23 to 24 Feb (and which, in any case, recently passed GA), is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and presentable. No copyvio issues. Hook is interesting, in article, cited, and citation checks out. Awaiting QPQ, as above. Tenpop421 (talk) 01:19, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Will make sure to do QPQ early tomorrow. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:43, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the identity of mysterious mathematician Cleo, who provided answers to complex integrals on Stack Exchange without showing any work, was finally revealed after over a decade in 2025?

• Reviewed:

GregariousMadness (talk to me!) 15:41, 27 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Absolutely love this! Looks like the Most Mysterious Song on the Internet was not the only Internet mystery solved recently.. anyways. Hook is definitely interesting, cited and QPQ not required. Article is eligible, well-cited and written, although I have small comments for it before I can approve this DYK: "closed form" currently points to a disambiguation page which needs to be corrected; Cloe's Srinivasa Ramanujan quotation should be cited at the end; and I would replace the YouTube citation with a direct one for Cloe's tweet. ❧ LunaEatsTuna (talk), proudly editing since 2018 (and just editing since 2017) – posted at 01:24, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please note the long discussion on the quality of sourcing of this article at WT:WPM#Nominated Cleo (mathematician) for GA. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:48, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• • Thank you, I'll make the edits as soon as I can. GregariousMadness (talk to me!) 03:14, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • User:LunaEatsTuna — I've made the edits as requested, though I was unable to find a direct link to the Twitter quote, since it was communicated over DMs, not as a Tweet. Thank you for the review! GregariousMadness (talk to me!) 00:36, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Japanese live-action television drama adaptation of Accomplishment of Fudanshi Bartender was first broadcast in Taiwan before being broadcast in its home country?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Squatting in Nepal

lullabying (talk) 05:00, 25 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that two priests who served at Sacred Heart Church (pictured)—John Albrinck and Joseph Jessing — would later found two separate seminaries, the Pontifical College Josephinum and St. Gregory Seminary?

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wars in the Caucasus
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/King Faisal Street (Amman)

Maximilian775 (talk) 01:09, 25 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Length and date ok for both articles. No close paraphrase found. 2 QPQs done. But I'm wondering if the hook could be reworked? The factoid that 2 priests went on to found new separate seminaries is not explicitly stated and sourced in the church article, 'separate seminary' does not appear in neither article. Perhaps better to focus more on Albrinck, and just frame him as 'priest of the Sacred Heart Church' in hook? --Soman (talk) 10:18, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Image is free on Commons. --Soman (talk) 10:29, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Small note: Shouldn't the hook use — instead of --? I may be wrong though, please ignore this in that case. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:27, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • The factoid is not cited in the church article as I couldn't find a way to organically include it in the prose there. It is included in the DYK citation. Emdash issue is fixed. Maximilian775 (talk) 13:07, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • ALT1:...* "... that two priests who served at Sacred Heart Church (pictured)—John Albrinck and Joseph Jessing — would later found two seminaries, the Pontifical College Josephinum and St. Gregory Seminary?" I think this should correct the issues raised by Soman (talk)Maximilian775 (talk) 15:52, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Honestly, I'm not seeing how the hook meets WP:DYKINT, as to me just simply founding a seminary or serving a church doesn't seem to be interesting to a broad or non-specialist audience. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:39, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • • • User:Narutolovehinata5, feel free to posit another hook. An extreme minority of priests go on to found collegiate and graduate-level seminaries. One of these seminaries is the only of its type in the whole United States. Both of those are rare, especially for a parish in rural Appalachia. Maximilian775 (talk) 00:10, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's specialist information, and hooks that are too reliant on such information are discouraged as they are less likely to make sense or at least be appreciated by general readers. I took a look at Albrinck's article, and two of the things that came to mind are "Albrinck became one of the major advocates for the establishment of a minor seminary to serve the Catholics of Cincinnati" and "any of the fruit trees which used to populate the grounds of St. Gregory were planted by Albrinck, with estimates stating he planted over 1,500 trees during his two years as rector." I'm not sure if either would work as a hook but they could at least be starting points. As for the Sacred Heart Church, maybe a hook about the "It is the birthplace of the orphanage which eventually became the Pontifical College Josephinum, the only pontifical college in the United States" part might work. Regardless, my suggestion would be two separate hooks about them instead of a combined one. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:02, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In that case,

ALT1 "...that Sacred Heart Church was the birthplace of the orphanage which would become the Pontifical College Josephinum, the only pontifical university in the United States?"

• Source:https://ohiomemory.ohiohistory.org/archives/4122

ALT2 ... that John Albrinck planted over 1,500 fruit trees during his time as a seminary rector?

• Source:Miller, Francis Joseph (2006). A History of the Athenaeum of Ohio: A History of the Seminaries of the Archdiocese of Cincinnati. p. 125.

• ... that Natalia Maree Belting was recognized for "distinguished contributions to the arts in Illinois"?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Damian Chong Qui

SL93 (talk) 00:17, 24 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that clapper-bells are the oldest bronze-cast objects found at Erlitou?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Carl Zoll

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 01:06, 4 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Green Bay Packer Wally Ladrow worked as a packer?

• Reviewed: to do
• Comment: To do QPQ within 24 hours.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:53, 3 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Bahraini author Fatema Al Harbi, who wears a hijab, posts about the Holocaust on social media in response to widespread Holocaust denial in the Arab world?

• ALT1: ... that Bahraini author Fatema Al Harbi posts about the Holocaust on social media in response to widespread Holocaust denial in the Arab world? Source: as above
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/James Charnley House
• Comment: Nominated on behalf of an IP editor as per the request on my talk page. The IP has also provided the QPQ (as usual). I note that technically, this is a day late, however, this is entirely my fault. The request was made to me three days ago and I've only got round to actioning this now.

Schwede66 21:41, 3 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that the Grand Husseini Mosque has been serving as a starting point for Amman's political demonstrations (pictured) for nearly a century?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Francisco Mascarenhas (Governor of Macau)

Makeandtoss (talk) 17:38, 27 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that New York City's unbuilt River Walk development was delayed due to a $2 million study of striped bass? Source: Oser, Alan S. (November 29, 1987). "Waterfront Development; City Efforts Trapped in Multiple Reviews". The New York Times
  • ALT1: ... that an environmental review of New York City's unbuilt River Walk development had grown to 4,000 pages by 1989 but still had not been finalized? Source: Lueck, Thomas J. (February 12, 1989). "Koch Looks to Rivers for Development". The New York Times.
  • ALT2: ... that one critic of New York City's unbuilt River Walk development said it "might as well be called 'Sewer Walk'"? Source: Moss, Michael (May 6, 1988). "Tide of Criticism Rises on River Walk". New York Newsday.
  • ALT3: ... that New York City's unbuilt River Walk development would have included a 17-acre (6.9 ha) platform supported by 6,000 piles sunk into the river? Source: Moss, Michael. (February 25, 1990). "Mayor's Overdeveloped Sense of Duty". New York Newsday.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sienna Spiro
  • Comment: Transpoman did all of the work for the article; I am merely nominating it. More hook ideas are welcomed.

Epicgenius (talk) 15:08, 27 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Fadel al-Utol considers preserving Gaza's archaeological sites to be a way to peacefully "resist the Israeli occupation"?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nekomata Station

Richard Nevell (talk) 20:17, 25 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that the 1963 opposition candidate for mayor of Calcutta, Kanailal Sarkar, had been jailed during the 1930 protest movement against British rule in India?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sacred Heart Church (Pomeroy, Ohio)

Soman (talk) 15:33, 25 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that a train station in Japan appointed a cat as a "honorary assistant"?

• ALT1: ... that Nekomata Station is that only station in Japan that has the Japanese word for "cat" in its name? Source: Sankei ShimbunYomiuri Shimbun
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Perfect Propose

Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 17:17, 24 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• I'll review this nomination. Richard Nevell (talk) 23:39, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

General eligibility:

• New enough:
• Long enough:
• Other problems:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Spot-check: I checked the references to sankei.com and news.ntv.co.jp (with help from Google Translate) and did not find any copyright or plagiarism issues. I have made some copy edits for clarity; please check they they have not changed the intended meaning of the text. The hook is interesting (the first one should be preferred over the alt, in my opinion). However, the 'Etymology' section needs further attention to the way it is written. I'm not confident enough in Google Translate to accurately represent the source. Is it a local legend? Richard Nevell (talk) 20:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Richard Nevell: I think it's a local legend. Base on the Yahoo News story. I gonna clarify it quite a bit. If there's another problem tell me. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 22:26, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Miminity: That's good to include, but 'etymology' section still needs a copy edit. Richard Nevell (talk) 20:34, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Richard Nevell:, I rephase it to be more understandable. Tell me if there is more problem. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 08:30, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that abseil racks have excellent heat dissipation?

• ALT1: ... that many cavers have used the same type of descender since 1969? Source: http://www.verticalmuseum.com/VerticalDevicesPage/RappelHistory.php
• Reviewed: [[]]

Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:26, 28 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that the building of Holy Cross Church, the first Catholic church west of the Allegheny Mountains, was organized by an alcoholic priest, on land donated by the namesake of Basil Hayden whiskey?

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Paleobiota of the Latah Formation

Maximilian775 (talk) 16:19, 26 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• The hook is complicated and I don't see how the mention of Basil Hayden whiskey adds to the hook (and in any case that part may not meet WP:DYKINT anyway since readers may not be familiar with that brand and the mention seems non-essential). Suggesting some trimmed versions:

ALT1 ... that the construction of Holy Cross Church, the first Catholic church west of the Allegheny Mountains, was organized by an alcoholic priest?

ALT2 ... that the construction of Holy Cross Church in Kentucky was organized by an alcoholic priest?

ALT3 ... that the Holy Cross Church in Kentucky was built on land donated by the namesake of a whiskey company?

I've also taken the liberty of changing "building" to "construction" to avoid confusion. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:47, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's playing on irony, making the hook more interesting. Maximilian775 (talk) 18:51, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It probably wouldn't fly per WP:DYKTRIM, and the extra details are likely to only make the reader more confused or disinterested than interested. The original hook has been struck. Each of the details could probably work as standalone hooks (I've also proposed an ALT3 that mentions just the whiskey company), but combined together the hook seems unwieldy and complex. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:10, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT4 "... that Holy Cross Church, the first Catholic church west of the Allegheny Mountains, was built on land donated by the namesake of Basil Hayden whiskey?" How's this Maximilian775 (talk) 23:37, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A bit on the wordy side (and I'm not convinced that Basil Hayden needs to be mentioned by name), but I guess we can let the reviewer decide. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Considering that Hayden not only donated the land, but also was functionally the leader of the early Kentucky settlers, along with the cultural import that the bourbon industry has in this part of the state, I find it appropriate. I appreciate your -- if grudging -- allowance for at least two of the three connections I wanted to make in this DYK to remain. Maximilian775 (talk) 16:21, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To make things clear: the mention of Hayden (by name) for you is non-negotiable? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:22, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't nessecarily say that. I'm working to compromise, and this revised hook is substantially shorter than my initial one. ALT3 natually raises a question of "who", and per WP:DYKINT's statements of "we want people to see the new articles our volunteers have put time and effort into crafting" (which I think easily applies not just to DYK articles but articles concerning the topic / related items more broadly) and "Make sure to provide any necessary context for your hook; don't assume everyone worldwide is familiar with your subject" -- having a mention and a hyperlink of Hayden does also provide more context for the hook.

If the shortening of the hook at the expense of the above is a non-negotiable to you, then I suppose I could be fine with ::ALT3 ... that the Holy Cross Church in Kentucky was built on land donated by the namesake of a brand of whiskey? (Slight modification in that BH is a brand owned by a company, not a company itself. I think I made that typo, my apologies. Maximilian775 (talk) 18:29, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that in 1970 the tea garden labour leader Prem Oraon lost his right leg during a protest movement against a factory closure?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sacred Heart Church (Pomeroy, Ohio)
• Comment: the qpq covers two articles, this is the second time I use this qpq

Soman (talk) 22:07, 25 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - see below
• Neutral: - see below
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - see below
• Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: 1. The hook (which is interesting) is cited; I have to determine (I may need help here) whether a PhD thesis at the University of North Bengal, without a citation at the end of the paragraph or sentence that states this, is an adequate RS source - if anyone has thoughts on this, I would be happy to hear them. This question extends to whether the sourcing in the article is adequate and neutral, apart from the hook, as there are some statements for which the PhD thesis serves as the ref. I do not as of yet know the answer, but am highlighting the issue. I will note that WP:SCHOLARSHIP says, in pertinent part, "Completed dissertations or theses written as part of the requirements for a doctorate, and which are publicly available (most via interlibrary loan or from ProQuest), can be used but care should be exercised, as they are often, in part, primary sources. Some of them will have gone through a process of academic peer reviewing, of varying levels of rigor, but some will not. If possible, use theses that have been cited in the literature; supervised by recognized specialists in the field; or reviewed by independent parties. Dissertations in progress have not been vetted and are not regarded as published and are thus not reliable sources as a rule. Some theses are later published in the form of scholarly monographs or peer reviewed articles, and, if available, these are usually preferable to the original thesis as sources. " 2, The qpq has been done, but noted some open issues to be addressed (and sought to help address them). I assume (lmk if I am incorrect) that this is sufficient for these purposes. 3. Earwig does not detect any plagiarism. 4. Question for nom -should tea garden in your view be linked? Or is the current article on that topic something different than what is meant here?

• ... that two simultaneous EF2 tornadoes tracked into downtown Tallahassee on the morning of May 10, 2024, merging over the city?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sanity Code
• Comment: The source isn't the same as I used in the article but I can't be bothered to correct it as the information to verify the hook is present in both (both being database entries with a combined "event summary" for both present on both pages). This is both an improbable occurrence and a bit of a tongue twister, not quite one to April 1 levels, however. I don't think I want to wait for May 10 as a special occasion.

Departure– (talk) 14:36, 27 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that the idea for the 'American Dad' episode "Surro-Gate" came from executive producer Kenny Schwartz, who had two children through IVF around the start of the episode’s production?

• Reviewed:

Oddballeditor1997 (talk) 14:13, 27 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• This article is not currently eligible as it does not meet WP:DYKNEW, however this is currently at GA and is being reviewed, so I am going to put this on hold rather than outright rejecting it.--Launchballer 16:22, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Metallica's "Hardwired" was interpreted as a statement on the outcome of the 2016 United States presidential election?

• ALT1: ... that Metallica wrote and recorded "Hardwired" in about four days? Source: https://www.revolvermag.com/music/inside-metallicas-best-album-30-years-hardwired-self-destruct/
• ALT2: ... that at only about three minutes long, "Hardwired" is one of Metallica's shortest songs? Source: https://www.revolvermag.com/music/inside-metallicas-best-album-30-years-hardwired-self-destruct/
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sword of Vermilion
• Comment: I created ALT1 and ALT2 because, while I feel that they are way less interesting than ALT0, I fully understand that submitting/running a hook that implies any possible criticism of Donald Trump on the main page could be contentious, and I would like to avoid problems.

λ NegativeMP1 20:28, 26 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Chung Suet Ying has better sign language skills than her character in The Way We Talk, which requires her to sign "worse"?

• ALT1: ... that there are no direct translations between Cantonese and sign language, therefore metaphors cannot be used in the Cantonese-language film The Way We Talk's sign language dialogues? Source: ^[4]
• ALT2: ... that Marco Ng was cast in the deaf-themed film The Way We Talk after winning Mister Deaf World? Source: ^[5]
• ALT3: ... that the director chose to film scenes in The Way We Talk at dai pai dongs to create a contrast between the deaf characters and the noisy environment? Source: ^[6]
• ALT4: ... that the director of The Way We Talk was inspired to create a film about the deaf community by short films of deaf people signing underwater? Source: ^[7]
• ALT5: ... that Neo Yau delivered his lines as a deaf character in The Way We Talk using sign language that does not adhere to the logic of spoken languages? Source: ^[8]
• ALT6: ... that singer Panther Chan learned sign language specifically for the music video of the theme song from the deaf-themed film The Way We Talk? Source: ^[9]
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1,10-Decanediol

—👑PRINCE of EREBOR📜 16:36, 26 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Celeste Bedford Walker said that both her plays on the Houston riot of 1917 and Tulsa race massacre were "quintessential racial confrontation stories"? Source: "The Camp Logan story wasn’t part of much historical literature. It was this forgotten story. Clearly, her play had a role in sparking an awareness of what happened." ... Digging up the past. “Camp Logan" harmonizes with “Greenwood: An American Dream Destroyed,” which Walker wrote in 2015. “Greenwood” tells the story of the Black Wall Street massacre a century ago in Tulsa. Walker describes the two plays as “quintessential racial confrontation stories.”
  • ALT1: ... that Celeste Bedford Walker decided to be a playwright once "she was more interested in dialogue"? Source: Admiration of Toni Morrison briefly led her to consider writing novel until she discovered she was more interested in dialogue
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Go New York Go

ミラP@Miraclepine 18:58, 3 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that after a NBA Twitter parody page posted a fake report of Milwaukee Bucks coach Doc Rivers promising to take coaching "seriously", their performance improved during the 2024-25 season?

• ALT1: ... that basketball player Kevin Durant browses the comments of a NBA Twitter parody page "to truly see how many dummies come online thinking that they have high IQ"? Source: https://www.complex.com/sports/a/treyalston/kevin-durant-nba-parody-doesnt-like
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/George Seeman

🌙Eclipse (she/they/all neos • talk • edits) 13:59, 1 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Japanese art during the Kofun period included carriage-wheel (example depicted) and hoe-shaped stone "bracelets"?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ibrahim Adil Shah II hawking

Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 20:12, 27 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that journalist Ivan Miller was once bitten by a disgruntled Santa Claus?

• ALT1: ... that journalist Ivan Miller was called upon to remove a disgruntled Santa Claus? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-hamilton-spectator-miller-1965/165299493/
• ALT2: ... that journalist Ivan Miller organized sports celebrity dinners to benefit crippled children? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-hamilton-spectator-miller-1967/165299206/
• ALT3: ... that former baseball player Ivan Miller was the first curator of the Canadian Football Hall of Fame? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-hamilton-spectator-miller-1967/165299206/
• ALT4: ... that Ivan Miller broadcast the first play-by-play of a golf tournament in Canada? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-hamilton-spectator-miller-1967/165299094/
• ALT5: ... that Ivan Miller used boy scouts and flag semaphore to broadcast play-by-play of a golf tournament? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-hamilton-spectator-miller-1967/165394485/
• Reviewed: Railways in Canberra and Midland Main Line upgrade
• Comment: I volunteer two QPQ credits for one nomination, to help reduce the backlog of nominations without reviews.

Flibirigit (talk) 16:06, 27 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that King Sancho III of Navarre seized control of León in 1034 and arranged the marriage of his daughter Jimena to its king, Bermudo III?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Inner Cambodia
• Comment: The source I offer is (a) accessible online, (b) in English and (c) written by experts in medieval Spanish royalty and nobility, so the highly questionable thesis of the book is not, I think, relevant to it as RS.

Srnec (talk) 02:23, 4 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Joe Biden (pictured) ran for president twice before being elected in 2020?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/June

Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:04, 28 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Amman's historic water stream, Seil Amman (pictured), was roofed to make way for a road in the 1960s?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2025 Asian Winter Games medal table

Makeandtoss (talk) 21:54, 28 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that the soundtrack to the 1939 film The Wizard of Oz was not commercially available on record until 1956?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Aquilegia confusa

Moscow Connection (talk) 19:50, 28 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Marilyn Fisher Lundy developed Michigan's first accredited charter school?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Prasenjit Barman

jolielover♥talk 17:00, 28 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Hi @Jolielover: this article, created on 28 Feb, is new enough, long enough, and well-sourced. No copyvio problems. However, per WP:DYKHOOKCITE, "first" hooks usually require exceptional sourcing (DYK has gotten flack for non-factual "first" hooks in the past). Can you find another source which backs up the fact about it being the first accredited charter school? Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 00:17, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that a Mexican-American band, Grupo Frontera, has been affected by a massive backlash due to an alleged endorsement to Donald Trump after a viral video of the vocalist's grandmother?

• Reviewed:

Santi (talk) 03:43, 2 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that in 2024, Oris Aigbokhaevbolo was included among influential people in the Nigerian film industry?

• ALT1: ... that Oris Aigbokhaevbolo was the winner of the 2015 All Africa Music Awards for entertainment journalism? Source: "Oris Aigbokhaevbolo". Golden Globes. Retrieved 1 March 2025.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/DJ Pickett

SL93 (talk) 22:47, 1 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that during the Great Depression, Herman Brown, founder of Brown & Root, hauled trash for the City of Houston to make ends meet?

• ALT1: ... that Herman Brown, founder of Brown & Root, got his start in the construction business using the mules and used equipment he was paid with in lieu of back wages by his employer? Source: "His boss paid him in used equipment and mules, and Herman formed his own business. Texas Monthly
• ALT2: ... that after the death of Herman Brown, his entire estate and the bulk of the millions from the sale of Brown & Root were given to his charitable foundation? Source: TSHA: "in 1963, after their deaths, the estate of Margarett and Herman Brown was given to the Brown Foundation" Brown Foundation and from the CIA: "Another interesting enterprise is the Brown Foundation, to which Herman bequeath much of his holdings and which acquired most of the $36 million paid by Halliburton Co. for Brown & Root. CIA released document
• ALT3: ... that in 1962, then-Vice President Lyndon Baines Johnson delivered the eulogy at Herman Brown's funeral? Source: "Herman died on November 15, 1962; LBJ delivered his eulogy." Texas Monthly
• Reviewed:
• Comment: An "article" Herman Brown existed before as a redirect to Brown & Root. (This is a new article). Herman Brown was the original founder of Brown & Root. (Root, his brother-in-law, was a financial backer). His brother, George R. Brown (GRB), joined the company a few years later. An article existed on GRB, but not on Herman Brown, who has a very interesting story.

— ERcheck (talk) 17:24, 1 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that as far as Alessi Rose (pictured) is concerned, "if people don’t want me to write songs about them, they shouldn’t do bad things"?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Soepojo Padmodipoetro

Launchballer 16:07, 1 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that Noriko Takaya in Gunbuster would later influence Shinji Ikari in Neon Genesis Evangelion?
  • ALT: ... that an arm fold commonly seen in anime, known as the Gainax Pose, was popularized by Noriko Takaya from Gunbuster?
  • ALT2: ... that the protagonists from Aim for the Ace! and Top Gun would influence the creation of Noriko Takaya from Gunbuster?
  • ALT3: ... that Noriko Takaya from Gunbuster was named after an animator of the same name, who worked on films such as Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind and Akira?
  • ALT4: ... that Noriko Takaya from Gunbuster would be the breakthrough character roles for Noriko Hidaka and Kiane Chula King in their acting careers?
  • ALT5: ... that Fullmetal Alchemist author Hiromu Arakawa found Noriko Takaya returning to Earth after about 12,000 years in Gunbuster unthinkable?

• Reviewed:

Z. Patterson (talk) 19:21, 2 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• The hook as currently written may require knowledge about Evangelion and Gunbuster, and thus may not appeal to non-anime fans (and thus a general audience). Can more broadly interesting hooks, those that are not as reliant or even not reliant on specialist information, be proposed here? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:12, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Narutolovehinata5: I wrote alternate did you know candidates that I believe would be better for the general public. Z. Patterson (talk) 03:41, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Raymond and Mildred Kramer hired William Lescaze to design a house for them after walking past Lescaze's own house? Source: Bonanos, Christopher (January 5, 2021). "Why Hasn't Anyone Bought This William Lescaze House?". Curbed.
  • ALT1: ... that the Raymond C. and Mildred Kramer House was one of fewer than a half-dozen houses built in Manhattan during 1934? Source: Work is Started on Modern House: Four-story Residence Being Built for R. Kramer in East 74th Street". The New York Times. August 26, 1934. p. RE1.
  • ALT2: ... that the rear facade of the Raymond C. and Mildred Kramer House was described as "undulat[ing] like a Gaudi-sculpted tsunami"? Source: Malle, Chloe (May 12, 2010). "$14 M. Townhouse Listing Begs: Is Lescaze Worth It?". Observer.
  • ALT3: ... that the Raymond C. and Mildred Kramer House was one of three buildings that William Lescaze designed in Manhattan? Source: Bonanos, Christopher (January 5, 2021). "Why Hasn't Anyone Bought This William Lescaze House?". Curbed.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Danielle Sassoon
  • Comment: I will also try to take an image of this house by the end of the week.

Epicgenius (talk) 17:56, 2 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that while starting in place of Aaron Rodgers, backup quarterback Matt Flynn set the Green Bay Packers team record for passing yards (480) and touchdowns (6) in a victory against the Detroit Lions?

• Reviewed: Herman Martell

« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:02, 3 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• ... that over a quarter of the population of Germany is of migrant background?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sadna Qasai Mosque
• Comment: I translated this article on sociology from German

Moondragon21 (talk) 01:51, 4 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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