The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Niwot High School. Content has been merged to the school article, redirect needed to give attribution per GFDL Mgm|^(talk) 12:40, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable high school newspaper. Oscarthecat (talk) 07:11, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• This article should be included on WikiPedia, as I am still editing and scouring the article to include references. Getsnoopy (talk) 07:23, 26 November 2008 (UTC) — Getsnoopy (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
• Wikipedia is "The Free Encyclopedia". It is well-known that anyone can edit entries, with the belief that this will ensure the quality of the entries, as well as the wealth of information stored in them. This is also true for the creation of entries. Because anyone can edit, and upload them, it is necessary that entries such as these are allowed space on the Wiki server. While this newspaper does not have the credibility of, say, The New York Times, it is still a newspaper. It was stated that this is a "Non-notable high school newspaper". While this fact cannot be disputed, it does bring up other questions. For example, if this is merely a "Non-notable high school newspaper", does this not make the high school in which it is distributed a "non-notable" high school? Though it is not world-renowned, it does affect ~1200 people once a month, much like the high school itself does every day. If the high school deserves a place on the server, so does this article, as it concerns the same people as the high school article does. Wikipedia is open source--please do not strip this right from us. This article deserves a place on Wikipedia because it is not an advertisement, and gives information, as an encyclopedia does. It shares a part of the lives of students of Niwot High School, and therefore should be included. Averonalus (talk) 07:44, 26 November 2008 (UTC) — Averonalus (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

• Take a look at WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. It was the basis of your argument and it shouldn't be used in AfD arguments. However, policies do work as arguments, and so you might be better off using WP:N in your keep argument instead. Tavix (talk) 23:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Very Weak Delete — no indication of notability through verifiable secondary sources. I would recommend the above users read the basic Wikipedia policies starting at the table of contents and working up to the links I have provided in this statement. Not everything can be included in Wikipedia, plainly those worthy of inclusion per the policies and guidelines set forth. Again, I please ask to explore the website and really indulge on what we are and do. MuZemike (talk) 08:35, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Please, just give us a chance--after all, this entry is only a few hours old. We will have reliable sources, we just need time to get them. The article is currently under construction, and therefore should not be criticized until completion. Please let it mature, and give it a chance before deleting it. Thank you for your time. Averonalus (talk) 08:43, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • So noted. I change to a very weak delete in order to give the article a chance; apologies for the lack of hindsight. However, the problems still stand and need to be addressed. MuZemike (talk) 09:27, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge and Redirect - Sadly i dont think the paper meets the notability standard required by wiki for an entire article. A good solution in my opinion would be for the main informaton to be put on Niwot High School in its own section and redirect FRICH to that page atleast until there is another request to use "FRICH" which is more notable and worthy. Looks like a good newspaper though, i read the recent addition and loved the poem on English class. BritishWatcher (talk) 10:05, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - no sign of notability. Dekisugi (talk) 10:20, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Newspaper which claims a circulation of 400 monthly is not notable. -Atmoz (talk) 18:11, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge/redirect to Niwot High School. The article has encyclopedic content, so it should be merged not deleted. Deletion should be only be the last resort if the article is void of encyclopedic content. This one does have plenty of encyclopedic content that belongs in the school's article. Cunard (talk) 21:54, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —TerriersFan (talk) 23:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to Niwot High School. It is of local notability only to that school. A paragraph in the school article should do, but a full article is not warranted. Tavix (talk) 23:06, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete There is no need to merge an underground newspaper to the school it circulates in, or even mention the paper in the Niwot article, as that gives the impression (however it is) that the school endorses the publication (which according to the article text, would most certainly not). Otherwise, just seems to be a non-notable paper which is just a bane of the school. Nate • (chatter) 04:53, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I just added in another source which is notable, and might deem this whole article notable. Just to clarify, the newspaper is not notable only to Niwot High School, although it is only published there, because anyone can submit articles to us, and we shall consider publishing them. Also, our content is readily available online, accessible to the entire world, which makes this newspaper not confined only to the students of Niwot High School or the local residents. Deeming this newspaper non-notable is like saying that MIT's newspaper, The Tech, is not notable as it only pertains to and is published in MIT. Please reconsider and notify me if this article is currently worthy of being on WikiPedia. Getsnoopy (talk) 06:03, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Could you indicate what new source you mentioned above? All sources in the article are not reliable. And about other school newspaper in Wikipedia, please read WP:WAX. Dekisugi (talk) 08:12, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete A high school newspaper can be notable only if it wins a really major national award, except in really unusual circumstances. Nivot is a town of 4,000 people, and even if t his were the major newspaper for that town, it would not be notable.DGG (talk) 23:11, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.