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The result was delete. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 01:56, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dan Douglass (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

Despite citations, no evidence of meeting WP:BIO, and appears to be an WP:Autobiography of a blogger with a political slant and some minor community activism experience. Closeapple (talk) 17:04, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the lists of Hawaii-related deletions and Politicians-related deletions. —Closeapple (talk) 17:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. —Closeapple (talk) 17:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. WP:Conflict of interest article creation. Carefully worded to appear like this person is more notable, and it's still not notable enough:
  • "Editor of Hawaii Liberty Chronicles" means "Guy with his own blog."
  • "Published most extensively on the Hawaii Reporter" seems to mean "some other website let me write pages there too" — though that website at least has a paragraph in a Wall Street Journal article for a (weak) chance at meeting notability.
  • "Campaign manager for Stop Rail Now" from the article becomes "deputy campaign manager" in one source and just "among activists" in another.

  It appears that, at most, he's a commentator who headed a local community activist campaign in Hawaii, which still does not seem notable in the context of a general encyclopedia. (More realistically, it seems he's a blogger with his own domain name, whose stuff was occasionally repeated on another alternative-journalism website, and who was involved in a community group because someone wants to run a commuter train through his neighborhood. Possibly civic-minded in some fashion, but definitely not encyclopedia material.) --Closeapple (talk) 17:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Notability not established. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:56, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete No notability claimed in the article that passes WP:N or WP:BIO. No notability found that could be used to justify saving this article. However, conflict of interest is NOT a reason to delete an article. The lack of notability is, but if I was famous, and I created an article about myself, the fact that I am notable is reason enough to keep the article, the COI is only justification to edit the article, never to delete it. Theseeker4 (talk) 19:00, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  Oops-- I didn't mean to imply that COI/autobiography was a reason for deletion in itself; only that editors might need to take a deeper look at the sources, instead of accepting the article's words at face value with their normal meaning, since the author seems to have a specific agenda of maximizing the subject's reputation. --Closeapple (talk) 09:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:00, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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