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The result was no consensus. Spartaz ^Humbug! 16:52, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cristóbal Cobo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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No sense of any real notability. Passing reference to a Professorship is not sourced and may be a an Affiliate Professor Status in an American University. Currently a research fellow which doesn't carry with it inherent notability. No evidence that he is especially notable in any field . Fails WP:BIO  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   16:02, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete—h-index of ~12, which is well under what I would expect for WP:ACADEMIC. The TEDx talk was a minor one. Not seeing a clear path to notability yet. Lesser Cartographies (talk) 02:44, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep It meets the general notability guideline, including publication of his bio and ideas in important publications such as the main digital magazine of the National Autonomous University of Mexico. The guidelines for professors include 1. The person's research has made significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources. The introduction of the concept of invisible learning is a significant contribution to educational technology, which is why is is in demand currently in talks in universities in various parts of the world.Thelmadatter (talk) 01:12, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Meets #4 as well The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions. Thelmadatter (talk) 01:19, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

At the University of Oxford, research fellow is equivalent to Assistant Professor in an American university.

Comment - the article gives no evidence that the Professorship is at a USA University - more probably Mexico or South America.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   09:09, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Could you clarify where Wikipedia indicates as requisite a Professorship at a USA University? Does it mean that only academics from USA are the only valid academics? Could you be more specific? Records indicate an associateship of this person with in a research centre of the University of Oxford (The Centre on Skills, Knowledge and Organisational Performance).--6kenilworth (talk) 13:26, 1 September 2014 (UTC) — 6kenilworth (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

The other way round. A full Professor in countries where a professorship is a very senior position with responsibility for a substantial department as well as being the academic lead as in the UK , has been deemed by custom and practice to be intrinsically notable. In many other countries the title Professor is used for roles that might elsewhere be called senior lecturers. The lack of a role as a Professor does not mean that the person is not notable, only that there needs to be robust and reliable references to demonstrate their notability.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   07:48, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I think Velella is right. Is not only the professorship what really counts. I made a little research and I found that Cobo's work on Technology and Education has been published in nearly 20 newspapers/magazines (i.e. Le Monde Diplomatique); but with main concentration in the Spanish speaking world: El País (Spain); El Clarín (Argentina); La Crónica (México), El Mercurio (Chile), etc. (references available) If included I think that need to be added. Having a closer look at his profile I think Thelmadatter is also right when suggested that 'The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education' his record of work with a large number of Higher Education institutions is evident.Stgiles1 (talk) 13:25, 3 September 2014 (UTC) — Stgiles1 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Comment - I think that Thelmadatter is right. In the Spanish speaking world, Cobo is an important figure in educational innovation, which is why he is in demand as a consultant for the governments of various countries such as Ecuador, Mexico and Chile. His H-index is 9 which is high in the social sciences, especially in such a narrow field. [[1]]--Paolaricaurte (talk) 18:14, 3 September 2014 (UTC) — Paolaricaurte (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 08:34, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Clearly Thelmadatter is pointing out something easy to prove. Cobo's influence on the academic world is clear. His works on Invisible Learning and other ideas in open education had reached pretty much every corner of the spanish speaking academic world (plus other regions). Here some evidences of that: Universidad Europea (Spain); Pontificia Universidad Católica del Perú; Universidad Nacional de Villa María (Argentina); Fundació Jaume Bofill and Universitat Oberta de Catalunya (Spain); Universidad Santo Tomás (Chile); Instituto Tecnológico de Monterrey (Mexico); Organización de Estados Iberoamericanos; Universidad Tecnica Particular de Loja (Ecuador); Facultad Latinoamericana de Ciencias Sociales (Ecuador); Ministerio Coordinador de Conocimiento y Talento Humano (Ecuador); Universidad Popular Autónoma del Estado de Puebla (Mexico); Chilean Ministry of Education; The London School of Economics (UK); Mexican Network of National Education (RIESA in Mexico); Universidad de Granada (Spain); Colegio Montserrat (Spain): Junta de Andalucía - Consejería de Innovación, Ciencia y Empresa (Spain); Nazarbayev Intellectual Schools (Kazakhstan); Colegio Alcantara (Chile); IB Africa,  Europe and Middle East (IBAEM) (The Netherlands); European Distance E-Learning Network (EU); etc, etc. --Washington14 (talk) 18:11, 9 September 2014 (UTC) — Washington14 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 16:20, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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