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BD2412 T 23:33, 23 April 2025 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Season Four Finale (April 25)

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VIPs (Squid Game)
I would recommend draftifying this until more sources can be found. As it stands, it fails to even meet the WP:THREE essay, and what is there for reception is somewhat weak, being only a criticism of performance and casting without any character analysis. Cukie Gherkin (talk) 22:43, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, tomorrow I will continue expanding the article since I was not able to this afternoon. Marco camino 10 (talk) 22:49, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hey, I just noticed you made a Recruiter page, and I've got similar concerns. I think it's important that you consider draftifying articles before you put them into mainspace, as it will give you time to ensure that they are up to snuff when it comes to notability. I especially think it's concerning that you're moving onto another article before the issues with the VIPs article have been addressed. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 12:11, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- That's true, I'm really sorry, for the next one I had in mind, Hwang Jun-ho or the Game Guards, I'll do them in a draft first. I did them this way because for a previous one I did a draft and another one published the article with less precise information and so on. Marco camino 10 (talk) 17:34, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- If I may, could I ask that you wait on Jun-ho? Not to toot my own horn, but I'm very good at source searching, and would be able to supply you with a significant portion of good sources to show notability. I can do the same for the Recruiter, though I'm less sure about the VIPs' notability. Cukie Gherkin (talk) 01:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Of course man, I will also be editing the other articles. The previous days I couldn’t because of a problem in the Spanish Wikipedia Marco camino 10 (talk) 16:31, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- If I may, could I ask that you wait on Jun-ho? Not to toot my own horn, but I'm very good at source searching, and would be able to supply you with a significant portion of good sources to show notability. I can do the same for the Recruiter, though I'm less sure about the VIPs' notability. Cukie Gherkin (talk) 01:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- That's true, I'm really sorry, for the next one I had in mind, Hwang Jun-ho or the Game Guards, I'll do them in a draft first. I did them this way because for a previous one I did a draft and another one published the article with less precise information and so on. Marco camino 10 (talk) 17:34, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hey, I just noticed you made a Recruiter page, and I've got similar concerns. I think it's important that you consider draftifying articles before you put them into mainspace, as it will give you time to ensure that they are up to snuff when it comes to notability. I especially think it's concerning that you're moving onto another article before the issues with the VIPs article have been addressed. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 12:11, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
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Can I suggest you hold off on Squid Game character articles until season 3 is completed? This would help provide a clearer picture on notability, and this way, we can have "complete" articles (i.e. articles that won't receive any significant updates). That's what I'm planning, and why I didn't do Kang No-eul or Kang Dae-ho, even though I think they could be notable, because it'd mean I only have to do one extensive search for each instead of multiple ones. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 01:31, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- Another idea, however, would be if you want to finish this draft: [1] the research is done, it just needs to be implemented. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 01:35, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll get on with Ali Abdul's. Marco camino 10 (talk) 10:21, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- I think it's a good idea, since in the days when the season comes out, there would be a lot of information from interviews and other sources about the characters. This way, articles about Dae-ho, No-eul, and others could be created with all the information at our fingertips. Marco camino 10 (talk) 10:23, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
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@Marco camino 10, it's Nelson. I tried my best to reduce it each and every time, feel free to inform me if you are not satisified with the latest version. I kinda relied on ChatGPT to make it as short as I can NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 15:27, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
Good Jun-ho source
[2] I'd suggest working on finishing Recruiter and VIPs first, but this source is very good. Also this one for VIPs: [3] - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 14:14, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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- It's funny you say I'm involved in an edit war when you were the one who started it. Maybe you started it. And it seems like a very vague excuse to say the rest of the articles are misspelled because they say "began." And if they're that bad, I could change them too, but I don't see you doing it. Either I'm getting at something more than something people don't even know about and that you're probably taking out of context, or your explanation isn't useful to me. Marco camino 10 (talk) 13:47, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Marco camino 10: I did not initiate the changes. You revised the word I originally used — 'commence' — and added internal links to 'principal photography', which appears to obscure the fact that you altered my edit. The fact that other articles you’ve edited use the word 'began' is not directly relevant here. If I come across similar instances, I have no issue replacing them where appropriate. Furthermore, when a word is repeated within the same section or paragraph, it is reasonable to apply lexical variety by using alternatives such as 'commence'. In the case of All of Us Are Dead, the word 'commence' was not originally present in the article. If the expectation is for me to correct every occurrence across numerous film and television articles, that disregards the collaborative nature of Wikipedia. Contributions and improvements should come from all editors, not just one. - Arcrev1 (talk) 13:59, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
- It's funny you say I'm involved in an edit war when you were the one who started it. Maybe you started it. And it seems like a very vague excuse to say the rest of the articles are misspelled because they say "began." And if they're that bad, I could change them too, but I don't see you doing it. Either I'm getting at something more than something people don't even know about and that you're probably taking out of context, or your explanation isn't useful to me. Marco camino 10 (talk) 13:47, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
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What is shown in Squid Game S3
Hi,
Just saying that there is no confirmation that there are Squid games in other parts of the world. It's only shown in America and there's no verbal or visual footage of the games in other countries. As per wikipedia policy we only put what we see. HiGuys69420 (talk) 00:18, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
- It was confirmed that the Games were played in more countries when in season 1 the VIPs said “this year, the Korea contest is the best”. They show the recruiter in America obviously because of the planned spin-off in there. But yes, the confirmation of Games all over the world was given on season 1 Marco camino 10 (talk) 00:40, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
- Ok can u put an efn on the s3 article explaining this? Thanks! HiGuys69420 (talk) 07:37, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
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Hello Marco, sorry to disturb you. I understand your edit "In the first episode, it was established that we would refer to Leroy Hanlon as Hanlon. We will refer to his wife and son by their names." However, what if he is referred in the same sentence as his wife and son? Would it be fine to use first name there? HiGuys69420 (talk) 22:38, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi HiGuys69420, in the first episode, Leroy Hanlon is mentioned first, and by the end, we're already calling him Hanlon. Regarding his wife and son, in the second episode, we use their full names when they're mentioned. So, if they were mentioned in the same sentence, Leroy would be referred to as Hanlon, as previously established, and his wife and son would be referred to by their given names. But since I don't want to be too "heavy" and strict, and it doesn't seem like a big deal to me, if you'd like, you can put Leroy after every mention of the character in the summary of both episodes. Marco camino 10 (talk) 23:39, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ok thank you Marco! =) HiGuys69420 (talk) 00:19, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
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Fallout season 2
Hey. Really do not understand your need to remove the stuff from the recap. The things I added were "removing defensor" because that's both an obsolete word and not really suitable for what was happening. I changed it to defending his image. Because that was relevant to the story. I added the location of the Great Khans, because that's a very well known location, and would be relevant to people reading the recap. I added what was happening in Vault 24, because again, relevant to people reading the recap. I added why Norm unfroze the people, because again relevant to the story and recap. I changed wording in places. But the recap was confusing in places, wrong in others. While yes the recap doesn't have to feature everything. A throwaway scene with Reg starting a new club was left in, while the entire reason why Norm was unfreezing everyone. A major plot point was removed. The recap wasn't that long. It had the details neccessary to get an understanding of the episode, without delving too deep.
I don't want to get into an edit war about this. I literally only changed it to begin with, because I watched the episode and said "This recap needs work." Basetornado (talk) 14:18, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- You added lots of unnecessary information for the plot information, it's NOT important the experiment of Vault 24 or the options given to Norm. The summaries must be short, including only the necessary information, and yes, your summaries is way too long, the summaries must have 1100 letters maximum, and yours is longer. If you don't like it is your fault. No one had a problem with the summary because it's okay, don’t add irrelevant details. As said before, in the episode articleyou can add those details Marco camino 10 (talk) 14:31, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- Where does 1100 letters maximum come from? The MOS states 200 words. Mine has 181, yours has 182. The extra characters came from hyperlinks to other wiki pages.
- Everything I added was either a core storyline, key location or because it was poorly written. Novac is a key location. Vault 24? That's a key storypoint, considering it's to do with the implanted chips and showing that it was a wider Vault Tec experiment. Norm being offered to take his fathers spot? Key storypoint. "tells someone over a microphone" is poorly written and sounds like English as a second language, which is why I changed it.
- Again, not trying to be difficult, just rewrote it, because it was missing key storypoints and was poorly written to begin with. Happy to discuss those points and why they are not needed. Just saying they are unnecessary is unhelpful, because realistcally anything to do with Vault 32 and 33 was irrelevant.Basetornado (talk) 15:04, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- I got it from notes that were added to summaries when they were super long, to keep them from getting too long. Summaries are always measured in words, period. The experiment done in Vault 24 or the options given to Norm aren't necessary for the plot. The previous summary is perfectly fine, and the problem is the desire to add information that isn't essential to explaining what happens. What I did was expand on a previous summary that contained much less information. I honestly wouldn't mind erasing the bit about Vault 32, but I would add the bit about Vault 33, especially after watching the trailer of what's coming in the season. And the grammar shouldn't be complex or seem like it's for my intellectual level. If you think that, it's because you haven't seen how normally summaries are written on other articles. Everything is perfectly explained and the grammar is easy to understand; adding those other things to this summary, which should be short, is the unnecessary thing. Like I said, you can add those details to the episode article, where you can elaborate further. Marco camino 10 (talk) 15:15, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- If summaries are measured in words, then it's not too long, and yours was slightly longer. So length is an irrelevant argument here.
- Why are the experiments and the options given not neccessary? Just saying they aren't isn't helpful. The chips are a key storypoint, the experiment shows that its not just the man from the bar and the person in the vault. The options given is a key storypoint, to show that he was offered the chance to be like his dad, but refused.
- "tells someone over a microphone" is the issue here with the grammar. It does not read naturally, and again reads as someone with English as a second language wrote it. Because yes, he spoke into a microphone, but thats not how you would write it. You would say "left a message to an unknown person/figure", because thats what they were doing and saying "someone" can lead to confusion, is that person in the room? Are they a background character who doesn't have a name? No, it was an unknown person. Nothing I wrote was difficult to read or complex grammar. Please let me know what was too complex if it was.
- Again not looking to be difficult, just want actual reasons for removing them, rather than just "they were unneccessary" or "it's too long" when it's shorter than whats there currently. Basetornado (talk) 15:33, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, they are measured in letters, not words. If you want, put your summary and when I have a moment I try to mantain that information in less than 1100 letters Marco camino 10 (talk) 15:40, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- MOS:TVPLOT states 200 words, not letters. I will place back most of my summary. But we don't need to go by letters according to that. Basetornado (talk) 15:45, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- Your summary has lots of unnecessary information, if you put it, I would made it shorter. I literally told you that users used the letters method because with that measure it's easier to maje them as long as they have to be. No one had a problem with the information provided but you, adding information that is not necessary. I don't know what you don't understand about having to omit information that isn't absolutely necessary to tell the story. Other users have edited the initial summary and added only what was needed, so it's your problem. Marco camino 10 (talk) 15:51, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- You edited it. Not others. Since I changed it originally, only you have edited it. Don't pretend that others have. I also just read what you changed it too, and you have made it more confusing. "which leads them to the abandoned Vault 24, where they discover a Vault-Tec experiment using chips for brainwashing; one implanted man briefly speaks to Lucy before his head explodes." It now reads as that the man was part of the original experiment, when it is likely the man that Hank kidnapped earlier.
- Who uses letters? Again the MOS states words. If there's some evidence of using letters, i'm happy to read it. But everything I have seen says words. Just saying "users use the letters methods" is unhelpful, because that is just not the case, from what I have been able to actually find that is used throughout wiki.
- Letters are useless because hyperlinks add to letters, but not words. For example hyperlinking the Ghoul and changing it to Cooper Howard vs just saying Cooper Howard is 39 characters vs 13.
- I'm asking you to actually explain why those plotpoints are unnecessary. You just keep saying "they're unnecessary". Why? Explain why they're unnecessary, just saying they are is not helpful. Basetornado (talk) 16:12, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- What's the big deal about whether they discover an experiment or not? The only important thing about Vault 24 is the man who speaks to Lucy and his death. The option not to enter Hank's escape pod should have been added to the first season summary, which is when it was first presented, not just repeated now. Reg starting a club isn't important to the story. And for your information, I simply expanded on an initial summary; I didn't change anything else. And honestly, I don't think Vault 32 needs to be added. And stop with the nonsense about the MOS; I've already explained twice why I use the letters measure, so stop bringing it up. And I repeat, the initial summary was already perfectly fine; the only problem is you. And stop with the nonsense about adding perfect grammar, because, as I've said before, most summaries don't have it. Marco camino 10 (talk) 16:19, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- If you're calling the MOS nonsense, then I don't know what to tell you. It's the manual of style. It's how summaries are meant to be written.
- You didn't explain at all why you used letters, you just said people do. Who? The MOS is the standard, and it does not say letters, for the exact reason I said. Letters are misleading.
- Perfect grammar? I'm not asking for perfect grammar. If you truly believe that what I was writing was too advanced etc, then you should not be editing on English wikipedia. I was writing about a line in it that was clearly written by someone with English as a second language. The type of line that is technically correct, but now how a native speaker would describe it.
- The initial summary was lacking. That's why I changed it to begin with. I read it as a wikipedia user and thought it wasn't good enough. That's how wikipedia works. People see things that need improving and fix them. There was some things I added initially that could go, no issues with that. But a straight revert was unnecessary and your changes since based on your letters theory have made it worse.
- Enjoy the page, do what you want to it. It's clear you're not acting in good faith about this.Basetornado (talk) 16:34, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- The one not acting in good faith is you, insisting on adding information that you think the summary is already perfectly adequate. And I'm not calling the MOS nonsene, because to begin with, the current summary has 176 words, because I've shortened it, so don't come defending it now when yours exceeded that number of words, and the first one you added was even longer. The current summary is fine; there's nothing more to add. Not wanting to make long summaries when the relevant information is sufficient is what you call lacking good faith, if that's what works for your mindset, it's okay with me. If a summary is short because not much is needed, then it's fine; it doesn't have to be long. Marco camino 10 (talk) 16:43, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- I believe you are not acting in good faith, because when I cited the MOS to you, you still said that you go by a different system and I should stop bringing it up. You're finally using the word count. But still misusing it. That's pretty clearly not acting in good faith.
- When I asked why plot points were unnecessary, you just said they were and refused to elaborate. You finally did on one of them, because it was mentioned in Season 1. There's information in the summary you wrote from Season 1 already. The others you refused to elaborate on. Hence not acting in good faith.
- When I said that a sentence sounded like it was written by someone withe english as a second language. You said to stop expecting perfect grammar. That wasn't perfect grammar, that was someone on English wikipedia wanting a sentence written how it would be written naturally in English. Not just being in English. Again bad faith.
- You said that others liked the summary. No one edited it except for you after I made my changes. Again bad faith.
- You also focused on making it shorter, rather than good. Then blamed me for trying to make it too long, when it was always a length that was perfectly acceptable.
- What am I supposed to think, when you keep doing that?17:21, 23 December 2025 (UTC) Basetornado (talk) 17:21, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- I'm tired of explaining the same thing over and over. If a summary is too long, or even if it isn't but contains information that's completely unnecessary for telling the story, I'll fix it, that's all. Marco camino 10 (talk) 17:28, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- The one not acting in good faith is you, insisting on adding information that you think the summary is already perfectly adequate. And I'm not calling the MOS nonsene, because to begin with, the current summary has 176 words, because I've shortened it, so don't come defending it now when yours exceeded that number of words, and the first one you added was even longer. The current summary is fine; there's nothing more to add. Not wanting to make long summaries when the relevant information is sufficient is what you call lacking good faith, if that's what works for your mindset, it's okay with me. If a summary is short because not much is needed, then it's fine; it doesn't have to be long. Marco camino 10 (talk) 16:43, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- What's the big deal about whether they discover an experiment or not? The only important thing about Vault 24 is the man who speaks to Lucy and his death. The option not to enter Hank's escape pod should have been added to the first season summary, which is when it was first presented, not just repeated now. Reg starting a club isn't important to the story. And for your information, I simply expanded on an initial summary; I didn't change anything else. And honestly, I don't think Vault 32 needs to be added. And stop with the nonsense about the MOS; I've already explained twice why I use the letters measure, so stop bringing it up. And I repeat, the initial summary was already perfectly fine; the only problem is you. And stop with the nonsense about adding perfect grammar, because, as I've said before, most summaries don't have it. Marco camino 10 (talk) 16:19, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- Your summary has lots of unnecessary information, if you put it, I would made it shorter. I literally told you that users used the letters method because with that measure it's easier to maje them as long as they have to be. No one had a problem with the information provided but you, adding information that is not necessary. I don't know what you don't understand about having to omit information that isn't absolutely necessary to tell the story. Other users have edited the initial summary and added only what was needed, so it's your problem. Marco camino 10 (talk) 15:51, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- MOS:TVPLOT states 200 words, not letters. I will place back most of my summary. But we don't need to go by letters according to that. Basetornado (talk) 15:45, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, they are measured in letters, not words. If you want, put your summary and when I have a moment I try to mantain that information in less than 1100 letters Marco camino 10 (talk) 15:40, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- I got it from notes that were added to summaries when they were super long, to keep them from getting too long. Summaries are always measured in words, period. The experiment done in Vault 24 or the options given to Norm aren't necessary for the plot. The previous summary is perfectly fine, and the problem is the desire to add information that isn't essential to explaining what happens. What I did was expand on a previous summary that contained much less information. I honestly wouldn't mind erasing the bit about Vault 32, but I would add the bit about Vault 33, especially after watching the trailer of what's coming in the season. And the grammar shouldn't be complex or seem like it's for my intellectual level. If you think that, it's because you haven't seen how normally summaries are written on other articles. Everything is perfectly explained and the grammar is easy to understand; adding those other things to this summary, which should be short, is the unnecessary thing. Like I said, you can add those details to the episode article, where you can elaborate further. Marco camino 10 (talk) 15:15, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
Fallout cast
Thought that I would message here instead of communicating through edit summaries.
Apologies for any confusion regarding the changes to the cast list. Due to how my browser is set up the page was presented differently. Feel free to correct the formatting of the cast lists on the main article and second season articles as I previously changed those too.
Thanks for your help. Cheezknight (talk) 12:54, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Hi, there's nothing to apologize for, your edit was implemented to try and improve the article without any ill intent, and you also help keep the articles updated and accurate. I'll let you know in your discussion forum for future edits, but I included it as a summary of the edit to make it clear that it wasn't a change I made because I wanted myself without any real and understandable reason. Thank you for understanding and communicate everything :) Marco camino 10 (talk) 13:04, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
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