User talk:LittleJerry
Chimpanzee article
Hi LittleJerry: My recent thoughts were to think about doing some upgrade edits for your authorship efforts at Chimpanzee with some thought for a possible later further promotion effort. It occurred to me that the article might benefit by some cross-editing with the article for Chimpanzee genome project which should likely be somewhat upgraded and improved as well. That would allow for some much needed edits from Comparative genomics to be brought into the chimpanzee article as well, to make the timely comparisons with other hominids such as humans. What do you think? ErnestKrause (talk) 17:05, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- I have been strongly considering working on chimpanzee for FA recently, human's closet relatives need more representation. Though I'm running out of steam for FAC projects (tentatively thinking white shark may be my last, while remaining open to joining in on other people's projects). I'm in no hurry. Not sure if I'm interested in the genome project article. LittleJerry (talk) 18:13, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well if its a co-nomination for the chimpanzee article then it in theory would mean half the work on your part and half the work on my part, which would make it more attractive as an option. Are you saying that not even the Chimpanzee genome project would be of any contextual chimpanzee interest to you? ErnestKrause (talk) 20:44, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- For FACS, I focus on the subject itself, maybe creating spin off articles like Polar bear conservation and Cultural depictions of tigers (which I did not write the text of). Genetics is very complicated for me. I can try I guess. LittleJerry (talk) 22:23, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- To clarify, you want to edit the chimp article with the genome article or transfer information from the genome to the main article. The latter is problematic for bringing it to FAC because you don't know if the references really support the text. LittleJerry (talk) 23:15, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Of the 17 refs in the Chimpanzee genome project article, most all of them are not pay-blocked, and they appear to be from reliable sources like Nature magazine; it looks like its safe ground. The transfer information from that article into the main article for chimpanzees looks like it could be done responsibly; I'm especially interested at this moment in the chart there giving an A:B comparison of the human chromosomes to the chimpanzee chromosomes which looks like it would be a good addition to the main article. Humans and chimpanzees have only 1% difference in their genomes which I think will be appealing to readers to read about and learn more about. It might start looking like a good enhancement for the main article to include this type of chart and some of the supporting discussion. Thoughts? ErnestKrause (talk) 15:08, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Okay, count me in on FAC. I've got something else to focus on now, but I'll get back you in a couple weeks to a month. LittleJerry (talk) 18:26, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Of the 17 refs in the Chimpanzee genome project article, most all of them are not pay-blocked, and they appear to be from reliable sources like Nature magazine; it looks like its safe ground. The transfer information from that article into the main article for chimpanzees looks like it could be done responsibly; I'm especially interested at this moment in the chart there giving an A:B comparison of the human chromosomes to the chimpanzee chromosomes which looks like it would be a good addition to the main article. Humans and chimpanzees have only 1% difference in their genomes which I think will be appealing to readers to read about and learn more about. It might start looking like a good enhancement for the main article to include this type of chart and some of the supporting discussion. Thoughts? ErnestKrause (talk) 15:08, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- To clarify, you want to edit the chimp article with the genome article or transfer information from the genome to the main article. The latter is problematic for bringing it to FAC because you don't know if the references really support the text. LittleJerry (talk) 23:15, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- For FACS, I focus on the subject itself, maybe creating spin off articles like Polar bear conservation and Cultural depictions of tigers (which I did not write the text of). Genetics is very complicated for me. I can try I guess. LittleJerry (talk) 22:23, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well if its a co-nomination for the chimpanzee article then it in theory would mean half the work on your part and half the work on my part, which would make it more attractive as an option. Are you saying that not even the Chimpanzee genome project would be of any contextual chimpanzee interest to you? ErnestKrause (talk) 20:44, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
That sounds pretty good and the time frame works fairly well also. I'll start using the time to collect some of the sources and citations which might look good for the article. If there's time, then I might try to bring some of the material in and you can change back/modify/adjust as needed. ErnestKrause (talk) 20:34, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- I purchased some books. I already own Jane Goodall's. LittleJerry (talk) 01:05, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Sounds interesting; are you purchasing the books about their evolution or about their behavior. I'm giving some thought to copying over the A:B comparison graph of human chromosomes to chimpanzee chromosomes from the chimpanzee genomics page to the main Chimpanzee page, and maybe you could see if its worth doing. ErnestKrause (talk) 17:21, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- I bought this, this and this LittleJerry (talk) 18:43, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Taht's really impressive as a list of books; I'll look for them at the local public library to check availability. After looking, then I'm likely have some follow up comments. That third one you mention appears to be from 1994. Cheers. ErnestKrause (talk) 15:33, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- ErnestKrause, I think the Proteome section is too big. I would use the just the last paragraph but with an introductory sentence on FOXP2, on how it is important for language development in humans. Remember, we don't what to get too long and technical for average readers. LittleJerry (talk) 23:18, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
- I've shortened those 3 paragraphs somewhat; maybe it looks improved. The other option is to move paragraph 2 of the 4 in Proteomics into the Genomics at the end, which would further shorten the Proteomics section. Let me know your thoughts or you can give the move of that paragraph a try. ErnestKrause (talk) 02:00, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- We still have too much information that does not relate to chimpanzees. LittleJerry (talk) 19:15, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- I'm thinking that it would be nice to keep at least the first paragraph of the new Proteomics section if you think that 3-4 paragraphs is too much; I mean that's the trend now in molecular biology that you need to mention proteomics if you mention genomics. Can the article at least keep the one paragraph version of the new Proetomics section? ErnestKrause (talk) 02:47, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- Okay. LittleJerry (talk) 02:56, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- Going with the short version now. I'm thinking of starting to expand the speech and language section toward the bottom of the article, in case you have any ideas for it. ErnestKrause (talk) 14:36, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- Make it the last of the article? I don't think thats a good idea. LittleJerry (talk) 18:02, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- As for the proteome, I think you should replace the first sentences with a summarization of the Yufan Wang article. LittleJerry (talk) 18:08, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- Make it the last of the article? I don't think thats a good idea. LittleJerry (talk) 18:02, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- Going with the short version now. I'm thinking of starting to expand the speech and language section toward the bottom of the article, in case you have any ideas for it. ErnestKrause (talk) 14:36, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- Okay. LittleJerry (talk) 02:56, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- I'm thinking that it would be nice to keep at least the first paragraph of the new Proteomics section if you think that 3-4 paragraphs is too much; I mean that's the trend now in molecular biology that you need to mention proteomics if you mention genomics. Can the article at least keep the one paragraph version of the new Proetomics section? ErnestKrause (talk) 02:47, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- We still have too much information that does not relate to chimpanzees. LittleJerry (talk) 19:15, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- I've shortened those 3 paragraphs somewhat; maybe it looks improved. The other option is to move paragraph 2 of the 4 in Proteomics into the Genomics at the end, which would further shorten the Proteomics section. Let me know your thoughts or you can give the move of that paragraph a try. ErnestKrause (talk) 02:00, 1 February 2026 (UTC)
- ErnestKrause, I think the Proteome section is too big. I would use the just the last paragraph but with an introductory sentence on FOXP2, on how it is important for language development in humans. Remember, we don't what to get too long and technical for average readers. LittleJerry (talk) 23:18, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
- Taht's really impressive as a list of books; I'll look for them at the local public library to check availability. After looking, then I'm likely have some follow up comments. That third one you mention appears to be from 1994. Cheers. ErnestKrause (talk) 15:33, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- I bought this, this and this LittleJerry (talk) 18:43, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Sounds interesting; are you purchasing the books about their evolution or about their behavior. I'm giving some thought to copying over the A:B comparison graph of human chromosomes to chimpanzee chromosomes from the chimpanzee genomics page to the main Chimpanzee page, and maybe you could see if its worth doing. ErnestKrause (talk) 17:21, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
I'll need to go along with you on that. Changed location of Yufan Wang. ErnestKrause (talk) 22:18, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- I still don't see the function of the fourth paragraph of the Speech and language section. Why not just move the text to the chimpanzee genome article? LittleJerry (talk) 22:59, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- 'Evolution of language' in humans seems important since it is development which is not paralleled in chimps either in speech or in sign language. The 'positive selection', also seems worth keeping as a significant process observed in evolution which has affected both chimps and humans. I've cut that 4th paragraph by half following your suggestion; can the remaining part be retained as least for this part. ErnestKrause (talk) 23:19, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- ErnestKrause, I should be ready by at least the first week of March. LittleJerry (talk) 22:22, 14 February 2026 (UTC)
- That sounds like two weeks away. Happy Presidents Day in the meantime. ErnestKrause (talk) 15:54, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- ErnestKrause, I should be ready by at least the first week of March. LittleJerry (talk) 22:22, 14 February 2026 (UTC)
- 'Evolution of language' in humans seems important since it is development which is not paralleled in chimps either in speech or in sign language. The 'positive selection', also seems worth keeping as a significant process observed in evolution which has affected both chimps and humans. I've cut that 4th paragraph by half following your suggestion; can the remaining part be retained as least for this part. ErnestKrause (talk) 23:19, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
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