You are correct, I just read that whole thread and then spent half of the subsequent shower winning a talk page argument against a couple of shampoo bottles. Honestly, I think Wikipedia talk pages are high in the running for the worst possible communication medium on the planet -- maybe "smoke signal" and "message in a bottle" are worse. You can't show people non-CC-licensed images, you can't link to sources if someone thinks the website is bad, you can't categorize the articles in any scheme that has the potential to bother anyone. It's hardly surprising that for twenty years people have been running entire parallel communities on IRC and Discord and Slack and mailing lists: talk pages are borderline unusable. jp×g🗯️22:03, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also any comment you make (even if you edit it a couple minutes later) is perpetually preserved in amber so that if you get in an unrelated argument with anybody over any subject for the rest of your life they can link to the time you were having a bad day in 2003 and called some guy an assclown as irrefutable evidence of longrunning conduct issues jp×g🗯️22:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Svampesky: Are you aware that the diæresis is a part of the English language? This seems like either an issue with providing metadata in the template or improving accessibility software -- not really a thing that can be fixed at TfD. jp×g🗯️04:39, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, I didn't realize I was nominating it for deletion on a page called 'Templates for discussion'. I thought it functioned to pool editors in one place, especially as templates are more technical. The section header Nomination for deletion of Template:Newyorkerize was a template. I hope the "mods on the Wikimedia discord server" don't find out about this! Svampesky (talk) 13:56, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I erroneously filed it thinking it was a place to pool editors and discuss. How do I withdraw it and move the discussion to the talk page? Svampesky (talk) 16:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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It looks like JPxG tried moving the pages back, but only moved the articles (not the talk pages), before they deleted both, as you've guessed, yeah. This was posted at WP:ANI#Environmental impact of bitcoin and appears to have been fixed. – 2804:F1...F5:208E (talk) 00:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It appears your script run broke dozen of talk pages
I've finished my report for the Signpost and I'm adding finishing touches. I joined Quarry, but I'm unsure how to run a query. I need to find the longest-running move discussion based on time duration. What would be the code for that? Svampesky (talk) 11:12, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I reworked this from WikiProject Orphanage. This could be placed on the newsroom talk page. Someone presses it five times, and then by a poll on the newsroom talk page to decide which essay to include in the next issue, to encourage readers to improve it. Svampesky (talk) 18:08, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It might be a bad idea to direct people to edit vital policy-based essays, so some could have a hatnote 'Essay for improvement'. Svampesky (talk) 18:24, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pistol emoji
Thanks for catching the unintentional synthesis, but what mistake did I actually make here? It was intended to summarise the body so I may have been misled by existing errors later in the article. Belbury (talk) 08:28, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you'd asked me a few months ago what the deal was with the pistol emoji, I would have said "it used to be a gun and then some time in the late 2010s a bunch of websites changed it to be a water gun", but when I actually looked into it for this article it turned out the reality was much more complicated and weird. The thing everyone went with was that it got changed everywhere, because this made for an easy story, but half of the vendors never changed anything, and even among the ones who did it was kind of an awkwardly inconsistent back-and-forth changeover. It's kind of interesting, because Elon Musk and all the people who hate Elon Musk seem to agree that everyone had a water gun until he unilaterally decided Twitter should go back to a handgun, but this does not seem to actually be borne out by anything other than that one article from the one abc.net article which seems to have gotten its header image from a Facebook page(?). jp×g🗯️09:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That header image does seem to be backed up by what I'm seeing in the sources, that Microsoft adopted the water pistol years ago but caved to cross-platform compatibility and made it a gun, then all the main platforms changed it to a water pistol in 2018.
I'll see if I can pull together enough sources to recreate a sourced timeline table in the article.
What's your view on the article drawing a link between the 2018 changes and the Parkland high school shooting and subsequent mass demonstrations against gun violence, a recent addition which is still in the article body? From what I can see this is an observation that some press sources made, and it seems like a reasonable one, but the actual platform announcements seem deliberately vague and anodyne about there being any social reason behind the change. Belbury (talk) 09:22, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, the closest the article gets is to say "the move away from the graphic of the weapon to a toy comes after mass demonstrations by students in the United States and globally, demanding tighter gun control laws". It seems pretty plausible to me.
On the subject of unciteable original research otherwise left on teh cutting room floor, my friend found this public relations campaign from 2016 which was apparently demanding Apple remove the glyph on a specific, explicit basis that
We realized that many Americans unknowingly carry a gun with them every day. The one that was given to them without a background check: the gun emoji. We ask that you stand with the American people and remove the gun emoji from all your products as a symbolic gesture to limit gun accessibility. We understand taking the emoji out will not end gun violence, but this act will show Congress that gun-owning and non-owning Americans have come together to demand required background checks for ALL gun sales.
The funnier outcome, in my opinion (note I've stolen this joke), would have been to cryptographically implement background checks for the gun emoji. jp×g🗯️08:48, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I had the edit window open for a while so I refreshed it to load the newest revision prior to submitting the comment. How the hell did it load the thing I had before and then overwrite the subsequent revision? jp×g🗯️18:08, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The whole way it copes with edit conflicts these days is very confusing - it's terribly easy to get in a muddle! These things happen. PamD19:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I saw that the ANI thread where you suggested a WP:KILLSTEALING essay. Ithink that is a good idea and I will probably create such an essay today. Would you like me to send you a link when I've created it? QwertyForest (talk) 07:05, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Unfortunate. Well, I am sure someone will post it on WPO (possibly a version of it edited to add a part where I say "I love making out with Joseph Stalin") jp×g🗯️18:12, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Have noticed that new editions of The Signpost haven't been publicized/linked on editor's watchlists for many months, leaving many editors unaware of the publication. MediaWiki:Watchlist-messages covers that (I think but not sure), so popping links to new editions onto that list should do the trick. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This pertains to the watchlist messages which appear on top of the watchlist, not a link on one of the watched pages (I usually find out about the Signpost when it comes up on one of my watched pages). Randy Kryn (talk) 14:59, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was transcluding Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Series/Bots, which causes the page to completely eat shit and render wrong and also recursively transclude itself for some reason. I don't really know why; at any rate the series templates were only ever meant to be transcluded on articles themselves so I can just remove it. jp×g🗯️18:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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My (admittedly vague) recollection, from when I was poking around with the press template and the high traffic site template, was that they were both implementing the same thing in independent/incompatible ways for no reason, and also that they were written with the dreaded "wall of copypasta" coding style, which I made a note to myself to fix someday, then did something which contributed to making it worse and forgot about it forever. jp×g🗯️10:35, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Yeah, but you never actually stopped. Several years ago I left a pair of headphones at my friend's house (and a different person later left a sock at mine), but an actual transferral of ownership never took place. I see this as the same general thing. jp×g🗯️19:25, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Your August 2024 Environmental effects vs. impact moves
Hi. I am seriously disputing these moves, and would like you to start an RM for them instead. Ultimately, I might start an RM to move all "impact" titles to "effect", but I think that it is more appropriate that the relatively longstanding "effects" titles be allowed to remain and undergo a discussion from that name. A fuller rationale to oppose your bold moves and the list of moved articles is in the declined RMTR request: Special:PermanentLink/1277357049#Requests to revert undiscussed moves. Cheers —Alalch E.05:22, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Alalch E.: I am absolutely certain that the importance of the issue does not warrant this. I did discuss the move — the general impression I got was that nobody cared either way, and moreover that it was kind of a pointless thing to ask about. I don't know why you've decided it was "undiscussed", or why you have asserted that so aggressively. I am aware of the existence of the RM process. I do not think that every pagemove requires an RM. Do you? The situation, at the time, was that a few dozen pages existed with titles of this sort, with some being called "Environmental impact of ____" and some being called "Environmental effects of ____". Personally, if you asked me, I would say that "effect" is probably more neutral than "impact", but at any rate, none of the articles I looked at seemed to even slightly distinguish between the two. It was not intended to be a political gesture. I hope you understand this. It was emphatically not the case that hydraulic mining and CFCs were one way, and bamboo sporks were the other. There was no detectable political or editorial valence to whether any article used one or the other. If you think that they should be the other way, then fine; I do not actually care, and moved the pages solely for the sake of having the titles be consistent. jp×g🗯️21:34, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your reply. I assure you that I don't think that the action was in your mind anything other than a minor on-balance improvement for the sake of consistency and not any kind of statement or gesture. I really get how you feel about the importance of this, and I'm sorry if you're a little bothered about my bringing it up. It's not for me to say, but you may be especially busy, which may make this issue feel even less important. But it can be easily resolved; it is because of that that I'm writing. I think that they should be the other way, yeah. These dozen-ish titles aren't a big deal but it isn't a tiny deal for me either, because I was, on occasion, thinking about starting a discussion to move away from this usage of impact in titles and having some living examples of the better alternative might help. About "undiscussed", that wasn't meant to have a negative connotation. I saw an AN section (iirc) while searching for a related discussion, but it was about the seeming glitch, and not about the naming as naming (is that the discussion?). I'm very pro bold moves. That actually reinforces instead of weakens my opposition to this mass move because some or most (didn't recheck) of the "effects" titles were from moves done years back, and they were done for sound and not-insignificant editorial reasons. There is an editorial valence and even a mild langvar implication. You basically overrode those bold moves which have solidified with these more superficially-grounded bold moves relating to consistency. Despite "liking" bold moves, I do not think that bold mass moves just for the sake of consistency--when something not provenly uncontroversial--are good. Not to go overlong: I see that you would not start an RM because you do not even favor "impact" over "effects" in general. In this situation it's better to let things be a tiny bit inconsistent as they were and see where things could develop from there. Sincerely —Alalch E.05:27, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Broken, by someone. A classically trained vandal, I suppose: truly random in a way rarely seen these days. Bravo. I did EC protect the template though because this messed up like 1000 pages. Thanks for letting me know !!! jp×g🗯️01:36, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Yeah, I don't have a working laptop, so if I get scheduled for two overnight shifts with no notice on opposite sides of a DMV appointment two hours away and have to sleep in my car I cannot run the script that populates it. However, it can be fixed without that -- if you have the SignpostTagger, opening that on a page and then saving it with any modification (e.g. adding and removing the tag "test") should add it to the module's index. I tried this from my phone but there seems to be some mobile issue (??)... jp×g🗯️13:28, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Your life sounds fun! I activated the script and used it to "Manage tags" on one of the pages. I added ", test" to the tags, and it said that the Module page had been updated, but it looks like the Module page was just reordered. I also tried adding "accessibility" as a tag, since that is one of the supported aliases. When I clicked "Manage tags" again, the new tag that I thought I had added was not there. Hmm. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:20, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I got home and ran it just now. I think maybe something is goofed up somewhere but I will have to sleep on it and then try to figure it out... probably it is my fault. jp×g🗯️16:10, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I just had a look, and it seems that SignpostTagger is broken when tagging new articles. I suspect this is caused by a change in MediaWiki, but I haven't pinpointed the cause of the problem yet. — Mr. Stradivarius♪ talk ♪14:25, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm following up on a comment you made in the Emancipatory Scholarship discussion, which is closed. When you wrote "I fear that the unintelligence of the opening comment to this section has caused people to react with kneejerk terror and suspicion to what is not only a reasonable claim, but already mostly true," what is the reasonable and mostly true claim that you're referring to? Is it "many publications representing themselves as academic journals are primarily in the business of making subjective claims"? The first two examples that Manuductive gave came from scholarship in the field of education. Do you believe, for example, that many education journals are primarily in the business of making subjective claims, and if so, what is the evidenciary basis for that / what are examples of journals in this set?
I do understand the difference between objective and subjective claims, and I understand that many statements made in STEM fields are objectively true. However, many claims made in social sciences are also objectively true. FactOrOpinion (talk) 14:23, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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A very large number of the errors fixed by that gigantic CN-fixer regex are from the visual editor (probably upwards of 70%) although that one wasn't. jp×g🗯️11:20, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I looked through the edits and found only one that introduced nowikis.[146] In that case, I think the editor copied the fact tag from the template's /doc page. Your fix was incomplete. Are you running a script? It should be able to detect nowikis and change the edit summary. Also, it's probably a good idea to put a link to the script in the edit summary. WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:20, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is a WP:JWB job I have been running for a couple years. I see this was not in the edit summary, so I think I unchecked something by mistake when running it. jp×g🗯️08:05, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The VE bug is very simple, and very obvious, and if memory serves, there's been a Phab ticket open for years. What it is, is that if you type a template out into the VE window:
{{citation needed}}
and save, then sometimes it will make the completely asinine assumption you're trying to literally put that string in the article, so it surrounds it with garbage like this:
<nowiki>{{citation needed}}</nowiki>
so that the article displays:
{{citation needed}}
Except sometimes it just puts the nowiki tags at completely random points in surrounding paragraphs. This had generated, over the years, thousands and thousands of messed-up citation template. The fix is pretty simple: have VE give a warning if you try to save it with a nowikied template in mainspace, because this is almost literally never intended behavior. However, nobody wants to do this, so instead a bunch of time is spent cleaning up the mess. jp×g🗯️08:11, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The visual editor doesn't work that way. As soon as you type the second {, the visual editor will open the Insert > Template dialog box.
If you are seeing [citation needed], with or without <sup>...</sup> tags, it means that the newbie didn't know how to add a template and just typed it in plain text. That's been happening forever, including before the visual editor existed.
If you're seeing <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Citation needed|Citation needed]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>, it means that someone copied and pasted the formatted text from Template:Citation needed/doc#Usage, and the visual editor assumed that the person pasted in formatted text because they wanted formatted text (which is not entirely unreasonable; what if you were writing a help page, or wanted to add that to the article Citation needed?). (If you copy it as unformatted text, the visual editor converts it to a template.) That could probably be reduced by fixing the documentation.
If you're seeing <sup>[Template:Citation needed|citation needed]</sup>, then that means that they copied a fact tag on an article (i.e., in "Read" mode) and pasted it in.
Your suggested warning could be added to the Special:AbuseFilter. I doubt that it will do any good, though, as people aren't doing this on purpose. They're doing this because they haven't figured out our complicated software. Being told "you screwed up" isn't going to help them fix it.
It looks like about 140 nowiki tags were added in the last day. About 70% of them were in the visual editor. 40% were IPs and non-autoconfirmed editors. WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:10, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dozens of unused and empty modules
Hey, I noticed dozens of unused and empty modules you created such as Module:Signpost/index/2027. What was the problem you were trying to fix with this? If you point me to the part of the code I can take a look, as this isn't the way to handle it. Gonnym (talk) 17:22, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gonnym: Sure, I can clarify: the year is 2025, meaning that events in the year 2027 have not happened yet. Therefore, the Signpost indices for 2027 do not have articles in them. jp×g🗯️20:12, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I understand that. What I was asking is why did you feel the need in the current year of 2025 to create modules for years in the future, such as Module:Signpost/index/2099. If it was a bug in the code, point me to the area of the code where this was an issue and I'll try and fix it. Gonnym (talk) 06:24, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Because doing this with code would have been a gigantic, complicated, unnecessary waste of time -- it would have permanently contributed multiple lines of garbage (requiring sandboxing, deployment, and perpetual maintenance) to every one of the several different scripts that handle these module indices (SignpostTagger, SPS, Wegweiser, the list maker, the module itself, et cetera) to handle a special-snowflake edge case that happens at best once per year.
Adding more logic to a script increases the maintenance burden, forever, for every single person who ever has to use or troubleshoot or modify or extend the script. They must scroll past it. They must figure out what it does and how it works. If there is a problem, and they're trying to diagnose it, they must rule out that it interacts with the new stuff.
Contrariwise, the issue was solved completely for the entire rest of the 21st century with a JWB task that took me five minutes to run.
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I am unable to understand the objection to the empty pages existing. Do they they affect you in any way whatsoever? They all occupy about a kilobyte -- again, it's 2025, and a kilobyte is substantially less than the comment I'm writing right now -- so I am unclear on why this is a problem. jp×g🗯️11:32, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please point me to the place in the code where this is an issue? I've asked three times already and would like to see if this is indeed an issue as you say it is. Gonnym (talk) 15:48, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All of it. All of the code is the place where it would be an issue to deliberately create errors and then write a bunch of extra code to work around them. Can you explain the fixation with these empty module indices? You have given literally no reason why they are a problem, or why any action needs to be taken whatsoever. jp×g🗯️06:41, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If every single line of code you wrote in every single template and module you wrote is looking for the existence of Module:Signpost/index/2099 then the code you wrote is doing something terribly wrong and inefficient. Pretty disappointed you aren't going to dignify my query with an actual response. Gonnym (talk) 07:42, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would really prefer if you did not make further proposals about refactoring software if you have not bothered to read the code -- it is just a waste of time. jp×g🗯️08:03, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, could you please look at the long comment at the bottom of this diff of Talk:Ollie & Scoops? I was in a dispute over one sentence in the lead, and then tried to explain why that sentence is problematic, and then they posted that comment, which I felt was a(n) WP:OVERREACTion.
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I feel like a jerk bringing this [185] up in the event it was an Autocorrect thing, but I'd feel like more of a jerk not bringing it up, because how does Autocorrect go there? and I'm of a certain age and D.C. Riot Grrrl heritage that led to me having handstamped Ian MacKaye at a Bunnygrunt/Tullycraft show in Arlington, Va. in 1997! Goals! Take care! 🤘🏼 Julietdeltalima(talk)09:17, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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I spent so goddamned long writing Jason M. Blazakis. I did not know it had been salted under a different name. How do we unsalt it? I've never gone through the process before.
My suspicion is that it was some dumbass on his campaign team back in 2023 that tried to write an article about him? What a friggin stupid move.
Anyways, yes I have met the subject a few times, but I fully reject the notion of creating articles for hype. (Terrorism and intelligence studies is such a small world that eventually you do meet everyone in it.) I believe that I have sourced a decent article. I believe that there is plenty of information here to prove notability. Guylaen (talk) 03:09, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And... when I say I have met him... I have been his student in a class. But if you go to my profile page, the largest letters there are my affiliation with MIIS. I am not hiding anything. And I swear to god I'm not getting paid.
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Why do I believe he needs an article? Read the first friggin sentence of the article I made: he was literally the dude who decided whether someone was a terrorist or not. He was that guy for a decade. Guylaen (talk) 03:14, 17 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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I’m going to try to keep this acceptable as a sidebar since it’s more about general style, but if I’m over the line please redact, trout, sanction, etc. as appropriate. I’ll avoid responding to anything that isn’t a direct question:
I’ve been involved in four major ANIs against well-established posters known to the community; DrBogdan, Randy, Skyerise, and Toa_Nidhiki04 (sp?). In all of those, I’ve been threatened with a boomerang, typically accusations I’m trying to win a content dispute. The only approach that has seemed to work has been to write way too much then wait for someone else to take the time to actually read what was said and relay to the community that there was substance there, then it gets taken seriously. I have not discovered a method to get these cases read carefully otherwise, and the fact that they’ve ended with substantial sanctions for the subject every time tells me I’m not typically wrong in my assessments.
A year of systematically dealing with the same issues despite (attempting to) do everything by the book, only to be met with a very public accusation from an admin at the ANI long before any bludgeoning makes it hard to respect the time and effort that goes into the process. It rarely feels like my time, as a good faith editor and someone trying to actually address these concerns, is respected either when admins declare unexamined diffs inadmissible evidence on grounds of precognition in a filing I’ve already worked my butt off at making succinct. I’m aware that walls of text make everything even more tedious for already overworked admins, but brevity gets met with threats of sanctions and accusations of bad faith due to the missing context, and attempting to provide that context gets met with more threats of sanctions. In the end, I’d rather say far too much and be sanctioned fairly for a reasonable read of a situation that I misread than face even the threat of those sanctions because someone is taking an uncited aspersion, or an admin’s hot bad-faith take, as gospel. This is especially true if any editor considers that my feelings of protracted hounding and harassment are sincere, which would go a long way to explaining (though not excusing) my verbose frustration. Wikibreaksock: Not Just For Wikibreaks™ (talk) 08:16, 5 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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I've never seen the superhat essay before. I read through it, and I'm not really seeing how it's applicable to what I did. I won't reinstate it, but I'd appreciate it if you could provide a little more detail on why you reverted my hatting of that comment. Thanks, QuicoleJR (talk) 12:05, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Even if he did, it won't excuse how you treat it like it is an actual article talkpage by reverting my comment, with the justification that "unnecessary sections" should be refactored or removed because it didn't contain polemic commentary on it, pro or against (that's a new one), and then in contrast, use hatnotes as if it were a forum for anything goes. Please stop being tendentious this way, and focus at better matters at hand, your advocacy on a wikipedia essay talkpage - that, at most will be viewed by traffic from the signpost, this article by Politico and this other article along with other users who watchlist Larry's userpage - won't do the world any good, let alone wikipedia. 182.185.42.137 (talk) 13:21, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would have preferred if you had simply made a comment instead the "what do you think" section instead of a new section, but I will admit that I was probably wrong on this one and self-revert. However, please avoid casting aspersions by accusing me of "advocacy" on that talk page, when I have done no such thing. Thanks, QuicoleJR (talk) 13:31, 10 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Error on the discussion report of the Signpost
Hi! Not sure if this is the appropriate place to mention this, but:
Regarding your summary of "I believe that a page is being used as a suspected battleground" here, you seem to have mistaken someone's username on Bluesky (which lets you include dots in your username) for being a website domain.
Strange, but possibly true. I'm aware that on Mastodon, that people set up homeservers (at whatever domain name) and use them as a basis to participate in broader common areas. That is, their username would be @ whatever ("kill-corporations.enterprises" or "k8s.social" or "retard.homes") even if they were posting on a different site.
Yeah, I guess I am not sure. The original URL was https://bsky.app/profile/silveralethia.puppygirls.online/post/3lxa32x4l3k2u , which gave me nothing when I clicked on it; my assumption was that this had been either crossposted from puppygirls.online, or posted directly to bsky.app from someone who was from that site. Is it simply the case that this is a username with no affiliation with a website at all?? jp×g🗯️21:42, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's almost certainly a username with no affiliation with a website at all. Think of it less like website domains and more like email addresses: my email could be jane.doe(at)email.com, but that doesn't have anything to do with a potential website found at jane.doe. MEN KISSING (talk) 22:43, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please stop editing my comments. Larry is a big boy and can defend himself; he doesn't need you to scrub all the naughty words from his user talk page. Telling someone to "fuck off" may be rude; that doesn't make it a personal attack.
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...there is a note on the talk section of "Wikipedia at 25: A Wake-Up Call" that the prose is AI generated. Yikes. If so, maybe the page should be pulled. Thanks. And happy 25th, cake and Indian food all around. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:37, 15 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Crass and incorrect headline
There's a consensus against the headline you've edit warred back in, as is rather clear from the talk. Bravo! Signpost continues it's downward trend, unfortunately. - SchroCat (talk) 14:26, 17 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Both statements are true. Both are far more rooted in the truth than the misleading headline, which has been criticised by several people. - SchroCat (talk) 14:36, 17 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't matter. You can—should—change the headline. There is no need to issue an erratum: the talk thread and edit history are there for that. It's been done before without the need to an extended three-act drama, it's just been changed at article and 'front page' level.Edit warring against consensus to ensure a misleading lie is the headline isn't a good look, but each to their own. - SchroCat (talk) 15:43, 17 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
You made the same edit four times in a row (!) and were reverted by three separate people. This is not "consensus" in favor of changing it. Feel free to continue berating me, but it is unlikely I will have any additional information to provide here. jp×g🗯️00:19, 18 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
”Four times in a row”? That’s just not true (four in total is not four in a row). The talk thread contains many more people saying the headline is misleading, which everyone can see is the consensus. I should be surprised that the second-rate clickbait headline is being edit warred back in, but somehow I’m not, given AI slop is now the order of the day too. I’ll say again: Signpost continues its downward trend. Justify it all you want: the headline, much like Signpost itself, isn’t fit for purpose. I won’t be back, so feel free to have the all important last word, but try and keep it honest this time will you? - SchroCat (talk) 03:18, 18 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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