Talk:Typhoon Toraji (2024)

GA review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Typhoon Toraji (2024)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: HurricaneEdgar (talk · contribs) 07:36, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: HurricaneZeta (talk · contribs) 21:28, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]


Preliminary comments

I think the History section assumes too much meterological knowlege for a layman to be expected to appreciate it, and seems to take too much from the technical sources verbatim. I'm not a meterologist though so perhaps not the target audience. Perhaps use reference tooltips to explain some of the more obscure terms (eg "small microwave eye feature" "deep convective band")

The Preparation section would be better ommitting redundant details. For example, "DILG Secretary Jonvic Remulla ordered all local government units threatened by Toraji to implement mandatory evacuations." would be better stated as mandatory evacuations were ordered. Readers can follow the citations for the details.

For these reasons I think the article is currently failing on unnecessary detail overall. Also given the subject matter, it would be better with some illustrations of damage (preferably before/after photos if possible).

--gilgongo (talk) 18:10, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Along with these, we can trim technical details in the 2nd paragraph of the lead. Minor thing - refer to MOS:TIME and add nbsp in time. Be careful of overlinking, too. Heads-up to nominator @HurricaneEdgar, and the reviewers can also continue adding points. I'll try addressing them. RFNirmala (talk) 14:30, 3 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gilgongo Do you want to proceed with this nomination? I'm happy to take it over from you if you want. HurricaneZetaC 20:18, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - I think in retrospect I may not be best placed to judge the finer details. This was my first attempt at a review, and I can see it's probably not really the kind of article I should be doing. gilgongo (talk) 20:56, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Prose comments

Meteorological history

  • strong poleward outflow aloft, and low vertical wind shear - can you find something to wikilink "poleward outflow aloft" to, or even better simplify it or explain? You can also link wind shear.
  • Satellite imagery shows that Toraji was undergoing rapid intensification, with a small system displaying an elongated, compact central dense overcast (CDO) feature, measuring around 81–92 miles (130–148 km) in diameter. A microwave imaging reveals a complete eyewall surrounding a small microwave eye feature, along with a deep convective band over the southern quadrant. - Don't need to use 'surprise' wording like "reveal", and switch these to past tense.
  • As a result of convective decapitation, can be simplified.
  • Otherwise looks good.

Preparations

  • evacuation orders were issued for residents in 2,500 villages affecting at least 8,000 people. - people and residents are redundant here. Example fix: for 2,500 villages, affecting at least 8,000 residents.
  • This is more of a question for an FAC rather than a GAN, but is there much of a reason to make the preparations longer than the impacts and aftermath? I think it could be trimmed down - the areas affected by warnings could be generalized instead of listing out every one, and there doesn't need to be a mention of every time the warning level changed in an area.
  • However, I cannot find any other issues in this section, so looks good.
Elsewhere
  • Change the dots in the times ("11.10 PM") to colons ("11:10 PM") and add nbsp (throughout the article, by the way) between the time and am or pm to comply with MOS:TIME.
  • on November 13 before all being cancelled at 11 PM - this seems grammatically incorrect, all being -> all of them were would be better.

Impact and aftermath

  • First off, there is a pretty blurry line here between impact and aftermath (again, expansion isn't really needed for GAN). Since there's not much clear aftermath material, unless you want to add some you should remove the "and aftermath" from the section header.
  • As of November 15, 2024, the - Not seeing a need to use as of here - "The ... (NDRRMC) reported on November 15, 2024, that ..." would avoid this usage.
  • However, in the NDRRMC's report on November 24, the damage of three typhoons Toraji (Nika), Usagi (Ofel) and Man-yi (Pepito) could reached... Some issues with this sentence:
    • I'm not seeing a need to name the Philippine names if they've been linked prior (in the image caption).
    • It should be moved before A total of 164 road sections.
    • My suggested fix is to move it after that previous sentence and remove the ,while before the existing earlier sentence:
      • Agricultural damage in the region reached ₱855,326 (US$17,367.03). However, a separate NDRRMC report on November 24 said that the the damage of the three typhoons (Toraji, Usagi, and Man-yi) could have reached ₱784.68 million (US$15.93 million) in agriculture and ₱2.85 billion (US$57.84 million) in infrastructure, for a total of ₱3.63 billion (US$73.78 million).
    • This also fixes some grammar and consistency errors and clarifies the new report's status.
  • Otherwise - looks good.

Retirement

  • It will be replaced with Nanolay — Gaddang creator and culture hero —for the 2028 season. Unneeded meaning (— Gaddang creator and culture hero —) that is also out of place and can just be cut.
  • would also be retired "also" is not needed as the PAGASA and JMA retirements are far enough from each other and are separate. It's fine but makes the sentence more wordy.
  • Otherwise looks good.

I'll do the source and image reviews soon. Pinging HurricaneEdgar to address these prose issues. This is a somewhat long article so it's expected to have a few fixes, so nothing wrong. Also, copyvio checker triggers on the names of the Filipino regions - I believe this is protected by WP:LIMITED but I've also suggested to trim/generalize it above. HurricaneZetaC 01:57, 9 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.