Talk:Typhoon Kong-rey (2024)
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Mainspace
Seeing that this is a big-ass storm I have tried to move this to mainspace but for some reason it won't push through due to some technicality. Borgenland (talk) 07:44, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Feedback from New Page Review process
I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Great job!
SirMemeGod 21:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Split Preparations and Impacts into two separate sections?
Since the impacts section is likely going to get quite long, should we split the (shorter) preparations section and the (longer) impacts section? Other hurricane articles such as Hurricane Helene do this. Wildfireupdateman (talk) 16:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
- I take this question back. It appears as if the move is already in progress. Wildfireupdateman (talk) 16:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Rename?
The typhoon name "Kong-rey" has been decided to stop using anymore by PAGASA. Also, the typhoon name was retired. Thus, the article could be renamed as "Typhoon Kong-rey". Does everyone accept? (per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC) Sinsyuan✍️🌏🚀 01:12, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
Requested move 23 April 2025
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: 'Not Moved (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc.talk 09:28, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
Typhoon Kong-rey (2024) → Typhoon Kong-rey - This typhoon, even if less costly than the 2018 incarnation, has the most deaths and more significance in damage, considering its contribution to the damage initially inflicted by Trami in the Philippines, Plus, this storm is a very large system and the name Kong-rey was retired following the season. (per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC) I suggest to move it. Comrade TT TV (talk) 07:51, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose With how things stand on overall storm impact, this is a case where there is no primary topic. This particular storm is not significantly more notable than 2018's and thus there isnt a primary topic. Noah, BSBATalk 09:06, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- (contribs watcher) Oppose as being WP:RECENTISM and per WP:NOPRIMARY. — EF5 12:46, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
GA review
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Typhoon Kong-rey (2024)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: HurricaneEdgar (talk · contribs) 07:35, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: SSSB (talk · contribs) 17:46, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
- a (reference section):
b (inline citations to reliable sources):
c (OR):
d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- a (reference section):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects):
b (focused):
- a (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail:
General comments
- Copyvio detector check comes up clean. Will obviously also check during any sourcing spot checks as well. SSSB (talk) 18:10, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- All images are appropriate, suitable, and well captioned. SSSB (talk) 18:10, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- There has been a content dispute since 1 Oct. over whether the short description should include the year (for what it's worth; I don't think it should). But the article is otherwise stable. I don't see this as an issue for GA promotion. It's a minor thing and short desciptions are not part of the GA criteria anyway. SSSB (talk) 18:10, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- Citations for Focus Taiwan should ideally be indicated as being being a paywall with
|url-access=subscriptionwithin the citation template. SSSB (talk) 12:51, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
Lead
- In the lead, I would recommend that the mention of circulation ("Kong-rey developed from a weak exposed low-level circulation") should be wikilinked to Atmospheric circulation. SSSB (talk) 18:10, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- The issue has been resolved. HurricaneEdgar 10:19, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- "and a central pressure of 925 hPa". The units hPa should be wikilinked. SSSB (talk) 11:39, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- "Kong-rey had transitioned into an extratropical low" extratropical low is technical language that should be wikilinked or explained. SSSB (talk) 11:39, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- The second paragraph of the lead is quite long and quite detailed. Some of these details feel extraneous for the lead and should be retained for meterological history instead (for example, specifing the wind speeds, satiliete imagery anaysis, lee side jump speculation etc.) SSSB (talk) 11:39, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
Meteorological history
- "Satellite imagery revealed limited deep convection" the term convection should be wikilinked. SSSB (talk) 11:39, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- "two disturbances near 97W and 98W" what are 97W and 98W? It becomes clear later on that these are some form of weather system designation, but it is necessary to specify this explicitly as soon as they are first mentioned. SSSB (talk) 11:39, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- "strong equatorward flow and improving poleward outflow" wikilinks or explanations are required for the technical terms equatorward flow and poleward outflow. SSSB (talk) 16:43, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- "...the typhoon approached Taiwan from the southeast and passed close to Batanes and the Orchid Island." the two citations at the end of this sentence are dead. SSSB (talk) 16:43, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- the term "lee-side jump" should either be wikilinked or explained. SSSB (talk) 16:43, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
Preparations
- "PAGASA indicated that residents in the northern and northeastern parts of Luzon can expect rain on October 31 and November 1 due to the storm." shouldn't this sentence be "could expect rain"? SSSB (talk) 16:43, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- None of the citations to PAGASA seem to be working. SSSB (talk) 12:51, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- The source at the end of the sentence "Two eastern islands, Orchid Island and Green Island, were closed by the local government." is dead and needs to be fixed. SSSB (talk) 12:51, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- The source at the end of the sentence "The CWA later released its first land warning for the storm on October 30, covering Taitung County and the Hengchun Peninsula." is missing the date on which the source is written. SSSB (talk) 12:51, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- "Kong-rey was not predicted to hit the Korean Peninsula(→), but it is expected to bring significant rainfall to the southern regions due to its moisture." incorrect tense. It should be "... but it was expected ...". SSSB (talk) 18:15, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- "Authorities are urging people to monitor the storm." again, it should be "Authorities urged people to monitor the storm." SSSB (talk) 18:15, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
Impact and aftermath
- "including the historic Itbayat Church, the oldest church in Itbayat, Batanes." should be "including to the historic Itbayat Church, the oldest church in Itbayat, Batanes. SSSB (talk) 18:15, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- Tense issue in "The Department of Social Welfare and Development is set to provide 14,000 family food packs to the island province of Batanes." Needs to be past tense. SSSB (talk) 18:15, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- "The Department of Education(→) announced that it will roll out the Dynamic Learning Program" tense issue, should read "would" instead of "will". SSSB (talk) 18:15, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- "...noting that the country is still recovering from..." should be "was" not "is". SSSB (talk) 18:15, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- "provided aid valued at ₱30 million" ₱ should be wikilinked. SSSB (talk) 18:15, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
Relation to climate change
- This bit needs copyediting for more clarity. Firstly, it needs to be mentioned explicitily what "such an event" is (three major typhoons making landfall in the Philipines in a year). Secondly, it needs to be mentioned under what conditions is will increase to every 12 years (2°C warmer climate from pre-industrial time). I would recommend changing "Using statistical modeling, scientists projected that a 1.3 °C (34.3 °F) rise in sea surface temperatures would cause such an event to occur once every 15 years, with the likelihood increasing to every 12 years. They concluded that climate change has increased the probability of at least three Category 3–5 typhoons hitting the Philippines in a year." to "Using statistical modeling, scientists projected the frequence of at least three Category 3–5 typhoons hitting the Philippines in a year had decrease to once every 15 years with a 1.3 °C (2.3 °F) rise in sea surface temperatures, with it decrease further to once every 12 years if the temperature rose by 2 °C (3.6 °F)compared to pre-industrial temperatures." Finally, the convert template needs to use the parameters
|C-change|F-changeinstead of|C|F(see Template:Convert#Temperature for why). SSSB (talk) 18:15, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
Taiwan
- "At least 690 people were injured, and four who were initially missing were later found and rescued across the island due to the storm." the Yahoo news source at the end of this sentence is dead. SSSB (talk) 18:15, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
Closing remarks
There are a few sourcing issues to be resolved (around dead urls) and a few issues with tense. Placing on hold to allow these to be rectified. SSSB (talk) 18:17, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @SSSB and @HurricaneEdgar, I worked on most points noted in this review. The only thing I need help on is the 98W and 97W part. RFNirmala (talk) 10:33, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- @RFNirmala@SSSB We don't usually include the invest designations, but I guess the formation of the typhoon was complicated enough that @HurricaneEdgar added it. 🥏FrizzBtalk🥏 18:31, 18 November 2025 (UTC)
- @SSSB I have added the word "Invest" before the 97W, if that is enough. 🥏FrizzBtalk🥏 15:31, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- @HurricaneEdgar, FrizzB, and RFNirmala: I've reviewed the changes (sorry for the delay) and it all looks good. Congratulations on a good article. SSSB (talk) 12:21, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

