Talk:Seokjojeon
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Did you know nomination
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 03:24, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- ... that the building Seokjojeon was meant to symbolize the Korean Empire's authority, but it was completed just months before Japan annexed Korea? Source: [1] "제국의 위세를 떨치려는 의도에서 확장과 중건을 거듭했지만... 대한제국 광무 원년(1897년)에 설계가 시작되었고 1910년 8월 경술국치 3개월여 뒤 완공되었다." -> "[The palace] was expanded with the intent of raising the authority of the [Korean] Empire... Work on [Seokjojeon] began in 1897 and it was completed three months before the August 1910 signing of the Japan–Korea Treaty of 1910."
seefooddiet (talk) 04:03, 25 January 2025 (UTC).
- Happy to review this shortly. Yue🌙 07:12, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
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Citations 1–2, 8–10, 21, and 28–31 randomly spot-checked for verification. No issues arose. Yue🌙 07:34, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
GA review
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Nominator: Seefooddiet (talk · contribs) 20:47, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Kimikel (talk · contribs) 19:33, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
Hello, I will be conducting this review as part of the May 2025 GA review drive. I will leave my comments within a few days. Kimikel (talk) 19:33, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Grapesurgeon: I have left my initial comments below. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns regarding my suggestions. Thank you. Kimikel (talk) 22:04, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, thank you for the review! I left in-line responses to each point. Also note that I'm currently moving house so sometimes may have delayed responses. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Grapesurgeon: Thank you for the quick response. I just noticed one more thing before I finish the review: correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that Seokjojeon being "Korea's first Western-style neoclassical château" isn't in the body of the article and isn't sourced. Unless I'm mistaken and it's already there, this fact can be inserted somewhere in the description section and sourced. That should be all. Kimikel (talk) 22:19, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Huh, good catch. I'm fairly certain that claim was in one of my sources, but it'd be tough to find which one it was in. I just adjusted it to align with body. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 22:32, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Alright, everything looks good. Thanks for the quick responses and the quality work on this one. I'm going to pass it now; congratulations! Kimikel (talk) 22:56, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Huh, good catch. I'm fairly certain that claim was in one of my sources, but it'd be tough to find which one it was in. I just adjusted it to align with body. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 22:32, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Grapesurgeon: Thank you for the quick response. I just noticed one more thing before I finish the review: correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that Seokjojeon being "Korea's first Western-style neoclassical château" isn't in the body of the article and isn't sourced. Unless I'm mistaken and it's already there, this fact can be inserted somewhere in the description section and sourced. That should be all. Kimikel (talk) 22:19, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, thank you for the review! I left in-line responses to each point. Also note that I'm currently moving house so sometimes may have delayed responses. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
Well-written
Lead
- per MOS:BOLDLEAD, I think Seokjojeon is the only significant name for this building, so the rest of the names should not be bolded.
- Unbolded Seokjojeon Art Museum, but I think the other two are also significant names. The West Wing should be bolded because it's a prominent part of this article I think; makes clear that this article encompasses both buildings and not them separately. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- that is located inside > located inside
- Done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
Description
- Furniture was all from > All of the furniture was from
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Changdeokgung > wikilink
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- The audience chamber had several columns until at latest the 1930s that were removed at some point, which caused structural integrity issues later > The audience chamber had several columns that were removed in the 1930s at the latest, which later caused structural integrity issues.
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- with plum blossoms; a symbol > comma instead of semicolon
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
History
- amenities (and Western cuisine from Antoinette Sontag). > I would just go with "There, he experienced Western-style amenities and cuisine." since Sontag doesn't have a page.
- Respectful disagree; Sontag is notable, I may make article for her very soon. She's actually so notable that I'm surprised she has no article grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Gojong declared the Korean Empire > Gojong proclaimed the Korean Empire (false title)
- I changed to proclaimed. Out of curiosity, don't quite understand the connection to false titles here, could you explain? Did you mean to put that in the below bullet? grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, good catch. My apologies. Kimikel (talk) 21:16, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- British advisor in Korea Sir John McLeavy Brown > Sir John McLeavy Brown, the British advisor in Korea
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Japanese engineer Ogawa Youkichi and Korean architect Sim Uisok > the Japanese engineer Ogawa Youkichi and the Korean architect Sim Uisok (false title)
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Japanese person Sōga Ben > remove Japanese person, doesn't provide much info
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- After a pause (possibly due to economic restrictions[30]), from August 1903 to November 1906 > After a pause from August 1903 to November 1906 possibly caused by economic restrictions,
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Briton Richard Goulburn Lovell > Richard Goulburn Lovell (false title)
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keijō nippō chief Yoshino Tazaemon (吉野太左衛門) > Yoshino Tazaemon (吉野太左衛門), the chief of Keijō nippō,
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- about no Korean works of art > about the lack of Korean works of art
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- August 21, 1936 to 1938 > August 21, 1936, to 1938
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- designed by Japanese architect Nakamura Yoshihei > designed by the Japanese architect Nakamura Yoshihei (false title)
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- wooden roof trusses were severely damaged. They were replaced > wooden roof trusses were severely damaged and were replaced
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Deoksugung Art Museum, and was managed > remove comma
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- (successor organization to the Office of the Yi Dynasty) (the successor organization to the Office of the Yi Dynasty)
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- In 1998, the West Wing was made into a branch of the National Museum of Modern and Contemporary Art.[37] > merge with next paragraph to avoid having a single floating sentence
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
Verifiable
Spot check
- 25: Describes Brown as an accountant; he should be described as such in the article
- done grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- 44: Verified
- 35-2: Verified
- 29: Verified
- 47: I don't see any mention of a lottery system
- Huh I don't know where I got that idea from; deleted. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
Broad
- No issues
Neutral
- No issues
Stability
- No issues
Illustrated
- All properly tagged and beneficial to article
