Talk:Santiago

Disambiguation

This page should lead to the disambiguation page automatically since there are numerous places and things named after Santiago in history. Treating the capital of Chile, as fine as it may be, as the default disrespects the other places and people as inferior. 84.231.120.203 (talk) 18:23, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This was previously discussed at:

There was never a proper WP:RM it seems, which isn't great.

Per WP:DPT, let's have a look at some standard statistics:

The hatnote is #2 with 548 identifiable clicks in October.

In logarithmic view, the spikes don't match in general.

The huge spikes at Santiago happen yearly on Christmas day. I'm not sure what this would be about. Could this be traffic intended for Santiago de Compostela, because that's a religious site, cf. Camino de Santiago etc? (Either way, a single day spike, even if regular, doesn't have to be terribly relevant for what to do in general.)

The disambiguation page averages 1,212 / month without redirects, 1,568 / month with them (that's 52 / day).

Ten more topics observable in clickstreams: the given name, de Compostela, the apostle, de Cuba, de Chile, Filipino city, surname, etc

Top total page views for items linked from the main disambiguation list - excludes the apostle
  1. de Chile 1,399 (45.9%)
  2. de Compostela 871 (28.6%)
  3. de Cuba 300 (9.84%)
  4. de los Caballeros 192 (6.30%)
  5. given name index 144 (4.72%)
  6. order 143 (4.69%)

The Chilean capital averages 1399/day, de Compostela 871 / day, and so many other cities have it in the name but it's not clear exactly how relevant it is. The apostle gets 635 / day total but we haven't been measuring Spanish-specific usage yet. de Cuba gets 300 / day, de los Caballeros 192 / day, the given name gets 144 / day, order gets 143 / day, etc. Pie chart to the right.

Here we see Santiago Bernabéu Stadium 1,337 / day, Santiago Cabrera 871 / day, Santiago Solari 601 / day, Santiago Giménez 534 / day, Santiago Calatrava 518 / day, Santiago Ramón y Cajal 223 / day, Santiago Cañizares 209 / day, Santiago Abascal 169 / day, Santiago Bernabéu Yeste 127 / day - though the article is actually at Santiago Bernabéu (footballer) and that gets 212 / day. Plus the long tail.

Here we see Miriam Defensor Santiago 575 / day, Ruben Santiago-Hudson 259, Saundra Santiago 227 / day, Renoly Santiago 224 / day, Joey Santiago 177 / day, Benito Santiago 121 / day, Herman Santiago 113 / day, Amy Santiago 99 / day etc.

Top total page views in general - excludes the apostle
  1. de Chile 1,399 (15.5%)
  2. de Compostela 871 (9.68%)
  3. de Cuba 300 (3.33%)
  4. de los Caballeros 192 (2.13%)
  5. given name index 144 (1.60%)
  6. order 143 (1.59%)
  7. stadium 1,337 (14.9%)
  8. Cabrera 871 (9.68%)
  9. Solari 601 (6.68%)
  10. Gimenez 534 (5.93%)
  11. Ramon 223 (2.48%)
  12. Canizares 209 (2.32%)
  13. Abascal 169 (1.88%)
  14. Bernabeu 212 (2.36%)
  15. Miriam 575 (6.39%)
  16. Ruben 259 (2.88%)
  17. Saundra 227 (2.52%)
  18. Renoly 224 (2.49%)
  19. Joey 177 (1.97%)
  20. Benito 121 (1.34%)
  21. Herman 113 (1.26%)
  22. Amy 99 (1.10%)

Let's put all of these in the same pie chart then.

I think there's a valid case to be made that while this is the single best known mononymous use of the term, it's not clear why the average English reader would identify the name Santiago with any single topic strongly enough for it to be a primary topic.

I'd say let's wait for some more statistics of new topical redirects that I've just set up, and start a move discussion. --Joy (talk) 13:37, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed there's also:

It's not a huge addition, but speaks to breadth. --Joy (talk) 13:45, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The term starts to gain prominence in the 1800s. Looks like Santiago de Cuba had something of a commanding presence in books between the 1850s and 1930s. After that the baseline stabilizes, and we see and a rise of de Chile, though no such dominance. Interestingly, de Compostela rises significantly since 1990s. --Joy (talk) 19:21, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Britannica.com search for Santiago (can't link it because of blacklist) brings up a dropdown that lists "Santiago (national capital, Chile)" first, after which it lists a number of geography topics. Pressing enter brings one to the a list where we can see the same first link, then "Santiago de los Caballeros (Dominican Republic)" and other geographic topics already mentioned, but also the "Battle of Santiago de Cuba (Spanish-American War)", Santiago (island, Cabo Verde), "Camino de Santiago (Christian pilgrimage)", "Santiago del Estero (Argentina)", then a few biographies, etc.

This all sounds like more reassurance that a disambiguation page with the Chilean city listed first in the common section at the top would be most appropriate. --Joy (talk) 19:56, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Metropolitan population vs capital city population.

The population for the capital city, Santiago, is listed as 6,999,460. The population for the metropolitan area of Santiago is listed as 6,903,479. Please explain to me how that is possible. Dmasters56 (talk) 04:31, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source for population

World Population Review (worldpopulationreview.com) is a self-published source. It has been discussed before at the reliable sources noticeboard:

@TumCool412: Considereding these, why do you think it is a reliable source for population in this edit? They claim their source is "the latest revision of the UN World Urbanization Prospects". The link they provide has been down for maintenance for years, but World Urbanization Prospects 2025 (click WUP2025-F20-DEGURBA-Capital_Cities, for example) gives a 2025 population estimate of 6,726,000 for Santiago, not 6,999,460. --Worldbruce (talk) 13:55, 15 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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