Talk:Lie

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2024

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Todays Technology is Misused by Liars Communication Approaching

Hi,The liar was not part of the business deals but one lie to recruit more clients and as some said that they had been selected or been nominated and recently received phone calls as winners or for loans or for position of somewhat and is all about beautiful lies or phone number selected for the contract device and they makes calls to ask your personal details or any life or funeral insurances and what they did since and is mostly one year now or more this liars they did failed to do goodness. Some made calls using computer and sign or files your details in a second and drops the call once they done with this lies or typing or copying.So I did ask them is that they do use AI because I use it and with its automation and I can have more time as a human rather than being in front of this computer like before.Amooketsi I can only visit my email or internet if there is something to print or to make follow-up or otherwise stated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.114.167.71 (talk) 13:15, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Misnomers

I thnk misnomers are lies and should be included in this page. Calling something which it is not, whether intended or not, is a lie. 161.8.254.253 (talk) 15:43, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. A lie is an intentional act, it is giving a false statement with the intent of causing another to believe the statement. There are no unintentional lies. 2600:8800:1716:2200:D5AB:A29E:8C3:9E87 (talk) 21:19, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
To not merge, Noble lie being a sufficiently distinct philosophical and sociological concept that warrants separate discussion. Klbrain (talk) 15:14, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Noble lie article is fairly short and has five references. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, and the information there could easily be added here. No excessive size problems if a merge took place. Thoughts? 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 14:28, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support merge. It would work as a new section in this article. Schazjmd (talk) 16:07, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support merge. --GHcool (talk) 17:57, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree. It's an important philosophical concept that I feel is distinct. 86.15.114.121 (talk) 09:57, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree Its' an important social scientific and philosophical concept that warrants its own article.
176.121.236.210 (talk) 22:22, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The information isn't lost; not even the term would be lost (as it would be a redirect). Why is it important that it be a separate article rather than be discussed in the context of Lie? Schazjmd (talk) 22:29, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agree -- it deserves its own entry. 2600:8800:1716:2200:D5AB:A29E:8C3:9E87 (talk) 21:18, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Don't merge. I saw this topic mentioned on another article. I clicked it, and I was happy to find this article as a separate concept. Five references is not too little and this article is not too short. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 01:43, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agree -- it deserves its own entry. 2600:8800:1716:2200:D5AB:A29E:8C3:9E87 (talk) 21:18, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly Oppose merge to Lie, Oppose merge in general - Noble lie is a WP:SPINOUT of Republic (Plato), the philosophical work that introduces the concept, and there's no shortage of scholarly literature on it justifying its own article. If it should be merged at all, it should be back to the parent article. but five references, three of which are secondary sources, more than justifies a standalone article. Psychastes (talk) 17:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously don't merge -- Hard to imagine a more exemplary misunderstanding of the concept than suggesting this merge. It's a philosophical and sociological concept, separating it from lie; it has enough varied meaning and interpretation across philosophy and other disciplines across all imaginable time and culture to separate it from the Republic/Plato. 26 May 2025 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.14.36.17 (talk) 20:26, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree Due to its importance in sociology is deserves its own article. 88.216.251.167 (talk) 06:15, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think the concept of the noble lie is notable enough to warrant it's own article. Plasticwonder (talk) 13:15, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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