Talk:Ghislaine Maxwell

Nationality

Ghislaine Maxwell is French and British by birth and naturalized American — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:140:8681:5A40:DD15:A3C4:852C:7E2C (talk) 20:49, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Education

After Edgarley Hall she attended Millfield senior school. 86.7.120.76 (talk) 22:27, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2025

Update the "Jennifer Araoz v Epstein's estate, Maxwell, and Jane Does 1–3 (2019)" section to include:

In late 2020, Araoz dropped her civil suit, which is a condition of the settlement was that victims could not pursue any more legal claims against Epstein or Epstein employees. The actual amount that was paid to Araoz from the Victim Fund is not known, as that information was filed under seal, but Araoz’s lawyer, Douglas B. Chanco, wrote that the defendant “has satisfactorily resolved Araoz's claim.” [1]Svfos (talk) 06:39, 4 March 2025 (UTC) Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).[reply]

Sorry, but that source doesn't seem to support? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:54, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple BLP violations?

I have removed several mentions of the subject's relatives per the BLP rules and also rules concerning criminals. However the narrative is full of multiple mentions of the subject's parents, siblings and other living persons not involved in the criminal convictions of the subject. Consequently I believe this article requires substantial copyediting. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:14, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For a criminal, we can't mention "any parents, siblings and other living persons not involved in the criminal convictions"? I'm pretty sure both her parents are now dead. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:43, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can you cite specific BLP policy on this? The closest I find is "Names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced", and that last clause is important. We do need to follow WP:BLPCRIME and consider strongly not including any statement that suggests that the relatives were involved in crimes ("Bob McCrime was the head of the McCrime crime family; Brenda was his niece" might qualify, I suppose), but merely stating that someone is a relative (or that the criminal phoned them) is not that. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 14:22, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For a criminal and well known socialite to have her sort of criminal and certainly socialite family members expunged from a BLP because of the sensitivities of associating family with criminal WP:BLP subjects is silly. All of her family have a shady background. In short, I'm pretty certain we should re-include. 2p. - Roxy the dog 14:40, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That’s not really for you to say, though, is it? Either they are notable and in their article their shadiness can be cited, or they’re not, in which case BLP privacy applies. MapReader (talk) 15:08, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps the OP has an axe to grind about the genetic bases for criminality? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:12, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In their articles, their shadyness is cited, so BLP privacy does not apply. Thanks MapReader. - Roxy the dog 15:16, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Seconding, whatever BLP vios may exist here or not naming notable relatives as her relatives very clearly isn't?? Should absolutely be restored. What? PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:39, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've re-added this. Several of the people you removed information about have been dead for literal decades. It is in no shape or form a BLP violation to mention someone has an immediate relative if those people are also notable. Which they are. We are not insinuating they have committed any crimes. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:46, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have substituted the more succinct format used in her parents' infoboxes (minus Michael, who has no article). - Davidships (talk) 10:26, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reddit account

should the theories about Maxwell's Reddit account be included? (assuming maxwellhill is her, so much evidence leading to that) she had substantial and notable activity on the site. IAmAttractedToFemales (talk) 10:11, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Where has this been reported? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:44, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Drunk driving

Ghislaine was convicted of drunk driving in 1996 and made headlines for it, also notable that the news clarified she listed her occupation as "Internet Operative" (and this was ten years before Reddit was created). one such article Fundy Isles Historian - J (talk) 03:23, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 15 June 2025

At least 8 batches of documents were ordered released in the case of alleged victim of Jeffrey Epstein, Virginia Guiffre, in her case against Ghislaine Maxwell.

https://publicintelligence.net/epstein-docs-batch-8/

https://publicintelligence.net/epstein-docs-batch-7/

https://publicintelligence.net/epstein-docs-batch-6/

https://publicintelligence.net/epstein-docs-batch-5/

https://publicintelligence.net/epstein-docs-batch-4/

https://publicintelligence.net/epstein-docs-batch-3/

https://publicintelligence.net/epstein-docs-batch-2/

https://publicintelligence.net/epstein-docs-batch-1/

add these references to:

Giuffre sued Maxwell for defamation in federal court in the Southern District of New York in 2015.

Piñanana (talk) 02:22, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: No reason given for the proposed addition, nor any indication of why citing a massive batch of documents is necessary here. Day Creature (talk) 17:48, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

scott borgerson article?

There is no entry for G. Maxwell's current spouse. John (talk) 15:57, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Probably because he does not meet WP:BIO. - Davidships (talk) 16:58, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So who's the publicist writing this?

This article describes Maxwell's first job as learning to use a laptop she was given. That's not a job. I mean really. You have no standards at all? It's a completely nonsense sentence that has no place in an encyclopedia. The sentence is poorly written and is misleading. It gives the impression of some kind of youthful brilliance when in fact it is....daddy had computers and bought one for her as a child. That's it. That's all that's factual. 162.154.248.143 (talk) 10:29, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So do something WP:BOLD about it. - Roxy the dog 13:03, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sentence and release date

Can anyone include in the article an explanation of why she was sentenced to 20 years but is scheduled for release after 15 years? Thanks.Jontel (talk) 16:40, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I.e. from her conviction in 2022 to her release date in 2037. She had served two years on remand, but that still leaves three years. Jontel (talk) 17:11, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dunno. Her transfer from a Federal Correctional Institution (FCI) to a Federal Prison Camp (FPC) interests me more. kencf0618 (talk) 17:34, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not in BOP custody

The BOP says she is not in their custody, even though they operate Federal Prison Camp, Bryan. Odd.

https://www.bop.gov/mobile/find_inmate/byname.jsp#inmate_results

1 Name: GHISLAINE MAXWELL Register Number: 02879-509 Age: 63 Race: White Sex: Female Release Date: 07/17/2037 Location: Not in BOP custody

Kencf0618

Elizabeth Holmes is registered.

https://www.bop.gov/mobile/find_inmate/byname.jsp#inmate_results

1 Name: ELIZABETH HOLMES Register Number: 24965-111 Age: 41 Race: White Sex: Female Release Date: 01/04/2032 Located At: FPC Bryan

If Maxwell was in transit, the record should say that.

https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/about_records.jsp

However, the BOP tells the New York Sun she is in their custody. '“We can confirm, Ghislaine Maxwell is in the custody of the Bureau of Prisons (BOP) at the Federal Prison Camp (FPC) Bryan in Bryan, Texas,” a BOP spokesman tells the Sun.'

https://www.nysun.com/article/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epsteins-longtime-associate-is-moved-from-florida-to-a-prison-in-texas

The Telegraph and others note that she was moved by BOP officials rather than the US Marshals service, which would apparently be usual. 'Maxwell’s transfer was allegedly handled by BOP officials directly rather than the US Marshals service, which usually deals with interstate inmate transport.' https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/08/01/ghislaine-maxwell-moved-minimum-security-prison-texas/

Jen Shah is also registered at FPC Bryan, making Maxwell's 'Not in BOP custody' stand out.

1 Name: JENNIFER SHAH Register Number: 37357-509 Age: 51 Race: Asian Sex: Female Release Date: 09/19/2026 Located At: FPC Bryan

https://www.bop.gov/mobile/find_inmate/byname.jsp#inmate_results

Perhaps Maxwell in in a witness protection programme.

Jontel (talk) 20:14, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

She is listed on the site, just not using the single search field form used.
Using this Inmate Locator and entering first name of "Ghislaine" and Last of "Maxwell" brings up her prisoner record at Bryan - inmate ID 02879-509 Ei2g (talk) 16:52, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 8 August 2025

Change British to French British Cassandragoldstein (talk) 22:02, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Per MOS:ETHNICITY, I actually think the first sentence of the article should refer to Maxwell as American, not British. The United States is the country where she currently resides and the country where she lived when she became most notable. I will leave the edit request open to see if other editors wish to weigh in on the matter. Day Creature (talk) 23:04, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: Since there has been no objection here, I went ahead and changed it to American. Day Creature (talk) 19:18, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

verifiability

I believe there is a number of unverifiable claims in this article, or claims with unverifiable sources. I will remove these after this is posted.

  • Maxwell intelligence agent claim - the source for this is a 2020 interview by TRT show Nexus as linked in the reference. I believe that this segment is not a reliable source as the videos posted by Nexus are visibily partisan and conspiratorial. Additionally, the allegation itself (at 5:33 (YouTube)) is actually a leading question from the host followed by an "uh yes" and a semi-related ramble.
  • Claim that prosecutors suggested that Epstein contributed to Maxwell's trust fund (first edit, second edit) - This claim has two parts, it is purported the prosecutors "suggested" that Epstein hired Maxwell's "services" and secondly that Maxwell "gladly peddled" to pay into her "modest" trust fund. The referenced article does not have any statements that support either of these two claims. This is without mentioning the loaded wording of this statement.

Please feel free to ask for clarification or to undo these edits (with reason)

Best, Lilbitmessy talk 20:46, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think the intelligence agent claim should be removed. The interviewer asks two questions, and it doesn't appear that Hoffenberg is saying "oh yes" in answer to the intelligence asset question. The ramble isn't even semi-related; it's not in response to the question at all. GA-RT-22 (talk) 14:38, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Besides which, this is way too close to OR and primary sources for a BLP. I want to read this conclusion in The Guardian or some other RS before we add it to the article. GA-RT-22 (talk) 16:14, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2025

NO CHANGE.

ADDITION (to paragraph one of 'Relationship with Jeffrey Epstein', regarding when they met)

In documents published by the House Oversight Committee on September 8th, 2025 [2] which include the fully published birthday book for Jeffrey Epstein entitled "The First Fifty Years", as curated by Maxwell, investment financier Elliot Wolk of Bear Stearns notes in his contribution on page 234, "Jeffrey, I remember in the mid 1970s you being a star salesman for our tax advantaged strategies and hedged option program. I was running an account for Bob Maxwell. You always had the ability to know everyone and be charming. Was that when you first discovered the Maxwell teen-age daughter... Happy Birthday, Elliot Wolk". ManuelHurtadoMartinez (talk) 10:34, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's a primary source and a bit of OR. Has this been covered by a reliable source? Also it doesn't seem terribly relevant. GA-RT-22 (talk) 11:54, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: Wait for this to be covered by reliable secondary sources. Day Creature (talk) 14:09, 9 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect linking

Annie Farmer's link (under Criminal charges and aftermath > Sex-trafficking trial) directs to Jack the Ripper. Epstein/Maxwell victim Annie Farmer is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, not the same person as Jack the Ripper victim Annie Farmer, which I can only assume this refers to! Other Annie Farmer links direct to her sister Maria Farmer's Wikipedia page. Kathrynhthies (talk) 20:44, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Kathrynhthies thanks for pointing that out. I removed that link. S0091 (talk) 20:53, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jeffrey Epstein birthday book

She compiled his birthday book which has come under a lot of media attention, so information about it should be added to the relationship section of this article. She wrote the introduction and a picture of her and Epstein in a pool is included in the book.

209.93.85.118 (talk) 16:53, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed this is highly notable and there are many news sources for it. I encourage you to suggest or make specific edits Czarking0 (talk) 20:45, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

mug shot picture

sorry if this has been discussed here before: why is this BLP using a mug shot in the infobox? I seem to remember from other BLPs that this isnt preferred. Wuerzele (talk) 05:53, 7 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The policy is here WP:MUG. A mugshot could imply that the person is a criminal; as Maxwell is, the picture does not convey a false impression. Mugshots have been used in some BLPs infoboxes e.g. John_Gotti. Also, the reason for her notability is relevant. The article composition and history indicate that her notability is due primarily to her criminality, not to any achievements or public profile. Jontel (talk) 17:19, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2025

Please change {{verification needed|date=September 2025}} in lead to {{rp|436}}, that page confirms the date: "[...], in 1961, three days after Betty gave birth on Christmas Day to her youngest daughter, Ghislaine, [...]." (Internet Archive)

Thank you, 83.28.238.31 (talk) 21:06, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done double checked the material Czarking0 (talk) 21:41, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jeffrey Epstein

Please add this category to the page ~2025-30999-30 (talk) 03:04, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Remove Category:Child abuse

Maxwell is already in several sub-categories about child abuse ~2025-30999-30 (talk) 03:06, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reddit account conspiracy should be added

Sources: [3] [4] [5] [6] ~2025-42432-46 (talk) 23:22, 22 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 December 2025

In last sentence at the end of the "Career" section, "drink-driving" should be changed to "drunk-driving." The hyperlink is okay and points to the correct article. ~2025-43353-17 (talk) 03:39, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

: Done. Thanks for spotting the typo. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 04:08, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. Upon further inspection, that is not a typo. My edit was reverted by User:MapReader, citing WP:ENGVAR. "Drink-driving" is an actual term in British English terminology. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 22:23, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Religion

What is her belief and religion ~2026-72908-0 (talk) 21:08, 2 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The article mentions Judaism towards the bottom. NottinghamNinja (talk) 16:57, 9 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Change Prince Andrew to Andrew Mountbatten Windsor in the lead

Per Epstein's lead. He is no longer a prince. ~2025-42478-70 (talk) 12:05, 5 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Article description

Two points to question in the article description... Firstly, calling Maxwell a British person isn't entirely true, based on the fact she was a naturalized American citizen, thus dual citizen, aka British-American. Secondly, the 'child sex trafficker' description is surely WP:UNDUE in the description, surely a softer tone such as criminal would be more appropriate. My change was reverted, so I've come to talk for a broader opinion. Cltjames (talk) 14:48, 5 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Her citizenships are fully set out within the article. MapReader (talk) 18:41, 5 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@MapReader ok, besides that, why list the crime in the description instead of simply, criminal? Surely WP:UNDUE? Cltjames (talk) 19:53, 5 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Keeper of Albion: explanation as to revert please ?? Cltjames (talk) 19:58, 5 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Simply calling her a criminal would be too vague for readers. Thus, leads for articles for other child sex offenders like Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris, Gary Glitter, Epstein etc call them child sex offenders instead of just calling them criminals. As is the case with those articles, using a softer tone here is not possible given the graphic nature of the crime. --~2026-78989-4 (talk) 11:01, 10 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

February 2026

@FlightlessWizard: Because you describe your last edit as an update, I need to let you know that I actually changed it to "Prince Andrew" the other day. The reason is simply because that's what he's more readily known as. GOLDIEM J (talk) 18:56, 5 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jeffrey Epstein

Add this category to this article. She's one of the most infamous Epstein associates, and the only one to be convicted thus far. ~2026-78989-4 (talk) 09:31, 7 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Thanks. - Davidships (talk) 11:49, 7 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

What is Andrew doing in the relationship with Jeffrey Epstein section?

Why is her friendship with Andrew mentioned in the section about her romantic relationship with Epstein? Maxwell's high-profile friendships should be listed in a separate section, as is the case with Epstein's own article, which mentions his romantic relationship with Maxwell and high-profile friendships in separate sections. ~2026-78989-4 (talk) 10:55, 10 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Trump "supported" her? This is a bit disingenuous

It's a bit presumptuous to call someone a "supporter" when this is all they said. Additionally, the president isn't supposed to apply pressure on judicial cases.

I fail to see how those quotes (and sources) show Trump "supported" her. Nor is the relevance clear: a lot of politicians were asked about her and said similar things.

It just feels like hard bias is on display. Rewriting the first clause can fix it--let people read his quotes and decide themselves instead of adding the presumptive clause declaring him a supporter.

The section in question:

"Among her supporters was then US President Donald Trump, who said in July 2020: "I just wish her well."[126] In an interview two weeks later with Axios, he returned to the subject telling Jonathan Swan: "Yeah, I wish her well. I'd wish you well. I'd wish a lot of people well. Good luck. Let them prove somebody was guilty."[67]" JackW2 (talk) 07:29, 15 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

How would you re-word this? GnocchiFan (talk) 07:39, 15 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

"internet operative"

the newspaper source says "internet operator" not operative ~2026-11180-79 (talk) 03:09, 20 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for catching the error. It has been corrected. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 03:24, 20 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]