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@Urg writer: When you pushed a major edit (I'm not entirely sure where the original text comes from?) something like nine years ago, you added a number of citations which have no corresponding bibliographic entires – if you had used {{sfn}} these would have thrown warnings which are visible with the correct script installed.

They include:

• Christol, p. [pages needed]. Harv error: link from CITEREFChristol doesn't point to any citation.
• Nagy 1965, pp. 305–7. Harv error: link from CITEREFNagy1965 doesn't point to any citation.
• Pflaum, p. [pages needed]. Harv error: link from CITEREFPflaum doesn't point to any citation.
• Tomlin 1988, p. 108. Harv error: link from CITEREFTomlin1988 doesn't point to any citation.
• Holder 1982, p. 65. Harv error: link from CITEREFHolder1982 doesn't point to any citation.
• Birley 1988, p. 46 ... Harv error: link from CITEREFBirley1988 doesn't point to any citation.
• Thompson 1987, p. 556. Harv error: link from CITEREFThompson1987 doesn't point to any citation.

If you could help fill in the proper bibliographic entries for these entries, as well as fill in the various entries also pushed without page numbers (eg the citation to Polybius) it would be greatly appreciated.

If you are interested in working on the article, I will note that there is a major new source on the equites – Davenport 2019 – which I may make some additions or revisions with. Ifly6 (talk) 20:09, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• If Birley 1988 is a citation to the Historia Augusta – ie Birley, Anthony (1988). Lives of the Later Caesars. United Kingdom: Penguin. ISBN 978-0-14-193599-7. (One of the most controversial of all works to survive from ancient Rome, the Augustan History is our main source of information about the Roman emperors from 117 to 284 AD – Google Books' blurb) as on Historia Augusta – it should be removed. Ifly6 (talk) 20:54, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Alternatively, perhaps it's the 1988 revised edition of Septimius Severus? Ifly6 (talk) 21:00, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Darrelljon: Re this image you added back. I have four five issues with it.

• The patricians are not "better than" or "atop" the plebeians. Most of the highest elite were not patricians in the republican or early imperial period; the imperial right to name few patricians is not often bestowed; the hereditary patriciate disappears in the 3rd century; it is only later revived as a title.
• Citizens include freedmen; Rome is famously one of the few ancient societies which does this; they were confined to urban tribes but regardless both had the vote and citizenship
• If the equites are "above" the patricians as implied by the arrow that's very strange; the social order by the early empire was one set by wealth and the senatorial property requirements were above those of the equestrians. If they are not then it is not at all clear what they are doing there
• The senatorial class is not anywhere displayed
• The sex suffragia, normally reconstructed as patricians, are all also equestrian centuries; there is no subset as implied in the image

imo the encyclopedia should avoid these kinds of overly schematic diagrams: they mislead readers as to the complexity of Roman society and its overlapping labels. Ifly6 (talk) 04:15, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanks for the explanation. Remove/edit as you see fit. Darrelljon (talk) 04:49, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Removed. Apologies also on my previous edit message. I think I was searching for reasons that were explicable and put down the wrong one, essentially. I've never liked talk of equites as "knights" but, somewhat annoyingly, it is still done that way in the French-language literature. Ifly6 (talk) 06:07, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]