This review is transcluded from Talk:Edward Cridge/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Dclemens1971 (talk · contribs) 16:07, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Warriorglance (talk · contribs) 06:37, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I will be taking up this article for GA review, You can expect my comments over the next few days. Warriorglance(talk to me) 06:37, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting that Warriororglance has reached out to me for some guidance on this review and I will be checking in periodically as apart of the Wikipedia:Good articles/GAN Backlog Drives/May 2025. IntentionallyDense ^(Contribs) 16:30, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Earwig's Copyvio reports only 29.6% violation, which are a bunch of phrases spread out, seems OK
• Nominator is a major contributer(over 99%)
• Article stable

• He was one of the leading citizens of Victoria, British Columbia, during its early years and was responsible for the creation of many of its nonprofit institutions, including the Cridge Center for the Family, British Columbia's oldest continuously operating nonprofit organization, and the Royal Jubilee Hospital.----This particular sentence in really long, it is not clear and concise. It can be broken down into simpler and concise sentences
• He was one of the leading citizens of Victoria, British Columbia, during its early years----This sentence is particularly vague and leads the readers to doubting what exactly is the reason for his greatness, can be followed by a reason for this. An inline citation for this bold claim can be added.
• The lead currently does not mention his Early life, a summarized version can be added as a paragraph.
• A summarized version of 'Settlement in Canada' can be added.
• "Protestant Orphans' Home" started by the Cridges deserves a mention in the lead
• The controversy is mentioned in the lead, but it does not explain with whom it was.
• he founded the Church of Our Lord in Victoria and became the first Canadian bishop of the newly formed Reformed Episcopal Church can be changed to he founded the Church of Our Lord in Victoria. He later joined the newly formed Reformed Episcopal Church and became the first Canadian bishop of the church. --- makes it clear that he only became a bishop after joining the church
• One line about his death and reason can be added at the end.

What I am trying to say here is that the lead is very short and really needs an expansion. WP:CREATELEAD says If a subject is worth a whole section, then it deserves short mention in the lead according to its real due weight.. Hope you understood..I'll look into other sections in a couple of days

@Warriorglance: I've updated the lead, expanding it to include mentions of his early life and death and clarify the points you've noted. The Protestant Orphans' Home was named, but under its present-day name, so I added that, hope it didn't make the sentence too long. As for the citation request, I've been dinged before by GA Reviews for including citations in the lead, but per WP:CITELEAD I added a reliable, secondary source ([1]) in the "legacy" section that validates his role as a promient citizen in Victoria. If you think it needs to go into the lead, let me know. Thanks! Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:37, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's fast! I never expected you would do this quickly. Just clarifying my earlier request, You dont need to add citations for every claim in the lead. Only for bold claims like this, as this can be challenged by readers and editors alike. WP:CITELEAD also says Complex, current, or controversial subjects may require many citations; others, few or none.

Just one more small grammatical issue, the last sentence can be corrected to - "Cridge was the rector of the Church of Our Lord until 1895 and remained active in Victoria's religious and civic affairs until his death in 1913." Warriorglance(talk to me) 04:25, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• He was ordained to the diaconate in 1848 and the priesthood in 1850 to He was ordained to the diaconate in 1848 and then as a priest in 1850 ---makes it clear
• "Cridge had already been corresponding with a fellow Cambridge alumnus who had held the post and he became excited by the missionary opportunities the frontier station posed." -- last line, specifies who got excited.
• Another thing, the Canadian encyclopedia(source 1) mentions his priesthood as 1849, the article mentions it as 1850.

Other than this, I found no issues.

Done. Regarding the ordination date, the MacDonald and O'Keefe biography has a precise date in 1850 and I trust this source more. That's the source that's used for the claim. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:13, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• The role of chaplain also included teaching in the fort's private school and overseeing the common school in the town. --- I cannot find a connection between this line and the paragraph. Was he a chaplain?
• "said the prayers" to "offered the prayers"
• The assembly named Cridge the first superintendent of education for Vancouver Island, a position he held without pay for nearly a decade. The source(Victoria's Victoria) for this line is does not have content relating to it.

His status as a chaplain is referred to in the previous paragraph. The sources describe the Hudson's Bay Company posting as a chaplaincy and that's what's described in the article. The original University of Victoria source webpage disappeared since I wrote this, but I have now added the archive link to the original source. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:13, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good :)

• Cridge and a warden blocked Hills from entering to Cridge and a warden blocked Hills from entering the cathedral. --- makes it clear

Looks good other than this:)

Done Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:13, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Criterion 2(a) Y
• Criterion 2(b) Y
• Criterion 2(c) Y
• Criterion 2(d) Y

All good! No unnecessary details given in the article.

If the issues mentioned above are addressed, The article can be raised to GA class.

@Dclemens1971 and IntentionallyDense: Please check the review and share your thoughts on this matter.

@Warriorglance: I have addressed your comments; thanks for the thorough review! Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:13, 4 May 2025 (UTC)r[reply]

@Dclemens1971 All seems to be good. Thank you for nominating this article for GA review! Warriorglance(talk to me) 06:13, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]