Talk:Dear Jinri
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Did you know nomination
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 17:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- ... that Dear Jinri, a documentary film built around the final interview of K-pop star Sulli (pictured), employs elements of L. Frank Baum's The Wonderful Wizard of Oz as a framing device?
- ALT1: ... that Dear Jinri, a documentary film built around the final interview of K-pop star Sulli (pictured), employs elements of L. Frank Baum's The Wonderful Wizard of Oz as a framing device?
- ALT2: ... that Dear Jinri, a documentary film built around the final interview of K-pop star Sulli (pictured) prior to her death, employs elements of L. Frank Baum's The Wonderful Wizard of Oz as a framing device?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Credit to @Staraction for the hook idea.
RachelTensions (talk) 04:00, 3 December 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: the word "late" should be removed from the hook per WP:WTA. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:11, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm fine with removing it. I personally don't really see it as a cushy euphemism to avoid using "dead"; it just flows better in the sentence than "the final interview of dead K-pop star Sulli." But let's remove it. RachelTensions (talk) 13:13, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Long enough, new enough, well-sourced, and with acceptable images. I took the liberty of removing "late" from ALT0 as the hook flows better without that redundant word or the alternatives you proposed. I also added a citation at the end of the sentence being referenced for the hook, which is a DYK requirement. We're good to go here! ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:40, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm fine with removing it. I personally don't really see it as a cushy euphemism to avoid using "dead"; it just flows better in the sentence than "the final interview of dead K-pop star Sulli." But let's remove it. RachelTensions (talk) 13:13, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
GA review
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Dear Jinri/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: RachelTensions (talk · contribs) 14:32, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Velayinosu (talk · contribs) 01:45, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
Lead
- The last sentence of the lead has too many clauses broken by commas, so it puts a lot of work (relatively speaking) on the reader to understand. Could be reworded.
- The lead doesn't contain any information about the contents of the interview in the film, just the non-interview stuff. A sentence could be added that summarizes the contents of the interview.
- Intertitles are named in the lead but not the body of the article.
- Calling "Dorothy" her final song may be a bit incorrect, since it's just the final song on her Goblin album and presumably all the songs on the album were released at the same time.
- Mystic Story is not mentioned in the lead when they probably should be.
Background
- "mid-October 2019" encompasses about 10 days, when her date of death is known to have been on the 13th or 14th, so specificity might be better here.
- There's a four year gap between "... focus on her acting career." and "In June 2019, ...". Maybe a sentence that mentions Real (2017) and anything else she worked on during that time period?
- "withdrew ... entirely" is redundant in this context ("hiatus" entails temporary), so this should be reworded, e.g. she left the group.
Synopsis
- Ref 12 (Marsh) is paywalled, so the info sourced to it cannot be fully verified. The archive link does not show the full text.
- "Hello, I'm Choi Jin-ri" is unsourced. If a direct quote is taken from a work, then there needs to be a source for the quote. You can reword this or find a reference that backs up the quote (at least one of the refs does).
- The last paragraph says that the film ends with Dorothy playing, but there are a couple scenes after that including an end credits scene. A sentence could be added and/or the paragraph could be reworded.
Production
- Ref 15 (Yeo) does not support the first sentence of this section, so this sentence is currently unsourced.
- Ref 11 (Maresca) does not support the first sentence of the 2nd paragraph, so this sentence is currently unsourced.
- Ref 16 (Lee, Seungmi) says he tried to find every article and interview, not "read several". "As part of his research" is also not in the source, so this sentence needs work.
- "heirloom" may not be the right word since heirlooms are typically things passed down from generation to generation within families. Naver gives memento, legacy, and keepsake as translations for 유품.
Release
- The first sentence in this section is butchered. A short clip of the film "and related information" (reword as needed to avoid close paraphrasing). The sentence also doesn't mention the account that claimed to cite Netflix Brazil; the sentence as written implies the clip or Twitter is claiming to cite Netflix Brazil when the source says "a Twitter account".
- The sentence "At the time, Netflix did not confirm any information about the film or its potential release." is currently unsourced and should be removed or cited.
- Ref 15 (Yeo) says "commercial release date" was not confirmed, not "commercial release"; so this sentence could use some rewording.
- Ref 16 (Lee, Seungmi) says screening was from October 7 to October 9, but October 9 is not mentioned when it could be in the sentence about it premiering October 7.
Reception
- Ref 12 (Marsh) is paywalled, so the info sourced to it cannot be fully verified. The archive link does not show the full text.
- Ref 11 (Maresca) doesn't say who the author of the article is in the source. Where does Maresca's name appear?
- Ref 13 (Lee, Claire) is on the Barron's website, and the article says the article was produced by Agence France-Presse. Should Barron's be mentioned in the Wikipedia article?
- How did Sulli's friends and family respond to the film? What about SM Entertainment? If they or any other celebrities had a response, then it might be good to add it to the first paragraph of this section.
- "opine" is a rare word that occurs twice in close proximity. Consider replacing one with another word for variation.
Images
- File:Dear Jinri poster.png – The file page could be cleaned up. Instead of the "Non-free use rationale 2" template, you can use the "Non-free use rationale poster" template, which is easier for this and what movie FAs use (for examples, look at File:Frozen II (2019 animated film).jpg, File:Happier Than Ever (film).jpg, and File:On the Job Philippine theatrical poster.jpg). Also, the source should not be a bare URL since it could become a dead link, so it's best to use a citation template there with an archive URL and |url-status=live parameter if it's not a dead link.
- File:Sulli for Marie Claire 2019.jpg is fine from what I can tell. Same thing for citation templates though and including archive links. It might also help to include a timestamp of where the image is from in the video. There may be verifiability issues with using YouTube as a source though. The video may be removed or inaccessible to some people.
- For accessibility reasons, images should have alt text. See WP:ALT for how best to write alt text. I've added alt text but keep that in mind for the future.
- An image of the director might be more suitable than the one of Sulli in the "Production" section. An image of Sulli can still be kept but moved elsewhere if you do add an image of the director.
Miscellaneous
- "K-pop star": calling someone a star in this context could be interpreted as subjective (even if it isn't), so this phrase might be better off excluded or Sulli described differently.
- There are a lot of sentences that start with "at the time" or some variation of that, including in back-to-back sentences. Some rewording for variation would be beneficial.
- Maybe remove Category:Documentary films about suicide. The movie isn't explicitly about suicide and only makes one mention of her death.
- Consider rewording "committed suicide" to something else, per Wikipedia:Committed suicide.
- Add archive URLs for all URLs if possible. If the URL is still live, then also add the parameter |url-status=live.
- It's aesthetically pleasing for adjacent paragraphs to be similar in size appearance. So if one paragraph takes up 7 lines, then it looks odd if it's preceded by or followed by a 2 line paragraph. And in general, stubby paragraphs that are one or two lines long should be avoided by merging the content into larger paragraphs or expanding them. There are multiple points in the article that could be improved in this aspect.
Discussion
This article is not bad and with some work could be GA in my opinion. I've left notes on things that could be improved. Some are more of suggestions than necessary though. I've also made a number of changes to the article to deal with a lot of the minor things. Velayinosu (talk) 01:03, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
Closing note: It's been a month and there has been no progress, even after notifying the nominator.[1] Closing as a failed nomination. Velayinosu (talk) 01:21, 21 July 2025 (UTC)


