Talk:Ancient astronauts

How is this white supremacy?

It appears the only white washing being done here is by those in the mainstream and those reverting edits on this article, pushing the narrative that somehow, someone hypothesizing about ancient astronauts has any correlation to white supremacy. Labeling proponents as white supremacists is like saying because a white supremacist watched a particular movie, anyone who watches that same movie is also a white supremacist. It's completely absurd. This article essentially calls anyone who believes in the idea of ancient astronauts a white supremacist per the verbiage. As mentioned within the article itself, a Dakota/Sioux writer calls out the idea as being absurd. Who has more credit here? The actual indigenous native saying this narrative is ridiculous, or the white people speaking for them? The white supremacy taking place here is being done by the very people arguing against it. This quote says it all. "Dakota/Lakota Sioux writer Ruth H. Burns, in Atmos magazine, counters that ancient alien theory and the idea of extraterrestrials in general supports the viewpoints of indigenous, non-European peoples. The denial of extraterrestrial encounters and indigenous peoples’ stories tracing their origins to extraterrestrials is part of “Indigenous erasure,” as it minimizes or completely discounts the viewpoints of indigenous peoples. Many indigenous peoples trace their ancestry to “star-people” or the like—extraterrestrials who as the progenitors of indigenous peoples cannot by definition be white or “Aryan.”" So who's really the racist here? Those who dare to think outside the box, or those stripping away the very culture of indigenous peoples by claiming their beliefs have no merit and make you a "white supremacist" for believing them? You can keep your biased wiki article, I'm siding with the indigenous peoples. 2600:6C54:4A00:619:F482:AE76:39C7:CE8F (talk) 03:17, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article does kind of contradict itself as the following paragraph mentions Erich von Däniken's "Chariot of the Gods" in which he also claimed that Stonehenge in England was built by or with the aid of extraterrestrials, despite archaelogical evidence showing it was built over generations of Neolithic native Britons. If there really was a "white supremacist" agenda at play then it would not make sense apply the same narrative to European mega structures as those in other parts of the world - that is the exact opposite of a white supremacy world view. To be a properly fair and unbiased article as per Wikipedia NPOV guidelines the tone here should present these opinions for what they are - opinions, rather than facts. ~2025-37613-95 (talk) 20:32, 15 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you find a source for that. --Hob Gadling (talk) 07:43, 16 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

An odd argument about White supremacy

This argument about White Supremacy seems to be the pushing of a political agenda, onto what should be the subject of legitimate archaeological research, by deliberately ignoring inconvenient facts. For example the idea that extraterrestrial input was present in the construction of ancient structures also applies to structures in Europe. It is a long way from being clear how Stonehenge was constructed, both in terms of the weight of the blocks of stone and the distance over which they were transported from the quarry to site. As the builders of Stonehenge and other ancient megalithic sites in Europe were demonstrably white and also indigenous peoples (to Europe), it is self-evidently a nonsense to assert that the very idea of extraterrestrial assistance in the construction of ancient structures is inherently a white supremacist position. When in fact 'indigenous' means the original inhabitants of an area and does not imply ethnicity. Further, the ethnicity of the ancient Egyptians is questionable. They were however essentially of Caucasian origin as opposed to substantially Arab as per the current inhabitants of the area who are not 'indigenous' to the area. It cannot be a white supremacist viewpoint to assert that Caucasians may have needed the same help from extraterrestrials that other 'brown' indigenous peoples needed on a different continent to achieve similar feats. I have no strong views on the extraterrestrial assistance theory, nor am I a white supremacist. However as vaguely interested reader who came across this article in passing, it is obvious that it is not objectively written and that (leftist) pejoratives are used to attempt to discredit a theory which, in view of recent government releases about UAPs/UFOs, does warrant objective revaluation. This makes this article essentially worthless and discredits Wikipedia as an objective reference. In my view it is very soon going to become undeniable that UAPs do exist, that they are extraterrestrial/interdimensional in origin, that they have been observed on Earth for a very long time in the scale of human existence, and there has been substantial efforts by governments in the last 100 years or so to cover this up. At that point, as alluded to in the above post, someone stands to be left with a substantial amount of 'egg on their face' when it becomes clear that that the denial of ancient indigenous beliefs about extraterrestrial visitation is an an inherently racist position. And that these traditions were in fact completely correct. Mictlantechupi (talk) 01:57, 15 May 2024‎ (UTC)[reply]

Please note that is not a forum for posting your own personal opinions on the topic. Or your prognostications for the future. Or anything else not based around published sources, and Wikipedia policy concerning their appropriate use in articles. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:27, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

pseudoscientific

i believe calling this pseudoscientific sounds fairly bias in itself. this hypothesis has been rigorously investigated by works renowned scientists. i wasn't a believer until I saw the insurmountable evidence I believe those calling thus pseudo haven't watched ot therefore reject it based on their biases but will debate it as if they knew the evidence as flimsy and unsupportive. ~2026-10834-3 (talk) 07:26, 6 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

this hypothesis has been rigorously investigated by works renowned scientists ... the insurmountable evidence If you have any reliable sources (please read the Wikipedia policy WP:RS to learn what 'reliable sources' are) to support those claims, please share them here. It might also benefit you to read WP:TPG. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 14:19, 6 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
allikas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ancient_astronauts