The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No Consensus. This is not the appropriate venue to hash-out notability guidelines regarding schools. ---J.S ^(T/C) 20:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Desert Ridge Junior High School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Non-noteworthy junior high school. Only sources are the school itself and a directory; I'm unable to find anything with Google News or Lexis-Nexis. Attempt to redirect to the school district was reverted as "vandalism," so I'm now bringing it here. Shimeru 04:11, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep The article is verifiable, we should wait for a school notability guideline to pass before delete school articles as "non-notable" as we would have to remove 50%+ of school articles. BJ^Talk 04:17, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Can you list the sources you found? Shimeru 04:22, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • [1][2][3] and the state school report card when the server is back up. BJ^Talk 04:28, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Comment Directories. Thank you, though. Shimeru 19:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I agree with Bjweeks. Until a guideline is passed on the subject I cannot support the deletion of individual school articles at random. TSO1D 04:30, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Just another non-notable school. I can see that there are already people who think all schools are notable have voted. TJ Spyke 04:39, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all non-notable schools --Tothebarricades 05:32, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep eople can expland on the school i say keepOo7565 05:48, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per BJ. Alex43223 ^{Talk | Contribs | E-mail} 07:50, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Not notable. --Improv 08:11, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge with Gilbert Public Schools (add a few sentences about the school to that list). Local interest only, although info about the educational systems is valid. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:29, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as failing the proposed WP:SCHOOLS guidelines, would also suggest discounting those users that just vote Keep all schools without a verifiable reason. --Arnzy (talk • contribs) 11:30, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, please do not try to dissaude others from giving theirs, it assists in giving a consensus. Just H 18:43, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment And I'll suggest discounting those users that are more intent on deleting articles than adding content. Drew30319 18:00, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy Keep there are a million of these articles, we should only delete when some consensus has been established KnightLago 15:40, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I am going to try and improve it a little. While it is simply a middle school, it hurts nothing to have information about the subject. So there should be no reason to delete unless the school is written with such POV that there is no hope of fixing, or as stated above, consensus has been reached. My two cents. KnightLago 16:09, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep article is verifible, pov seems ok, potential for expansion. But someone should more add info on why this sch is notable. -Advanced 17:48, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is there potential for expansion? Based on what? There isn't a single news or scholarly article about the school that I could find, and nobody else has yet been able to present one. Reliable independent sources are required to expand this article beyond a directory entry, and I contend that they do not exist. Merging would be an option, but was already rejected. If it can be expanded... then expand it, and I'll happily withdraw the nomination. Shimeru 19:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep Why the desire to remove schools, is Wiki running out of electrons? There's plenty of space and this is valid information and certainly notable to some. Just because it's not notable to ME doesn't seem sufficient to delete. Drew30319 17:56, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above. Just H 18:41, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy Keep if we delete this, we'd have to delete every other school. --Malevious Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 18:49, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Absolutely no significance of any kind established (or even asserted). Fails WP:SCHOOLS3 and WP:SCHOOLS. Google provides nothing. Literally every keep vote above has been "keep because all schools are notable" or "keep because there's no notability guideline currently established" or "keep because if we delete this, we'll have to delete all schools". The only thing stated above that even matters is "keep because the info is verifiable", but that doesn't really make sense, as we delete verifiable info all the time, and info about a non-notable middle school should be no different. -- Kicking222 19:33, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • You are right, so far there has not been 1 valid reason to keep the article. Nothing has been provided to show why this school is notable, and unless something is provided before this vote is closes then this article should be deleted (or merged like Sjakkalle suggested). TJ Spyke 18:50, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Umm. No. Every keep vote hasn't been for the reasons that you've listed. I stated that because it isn't notable to me doesn't mean that it's not notable. And I questioned if we're running out of electrons. Why the rush to remove information that is undoubtedly notable to some? The article isn't harming anybody or anything so let it be. Rather than looking for articles to delete spend ten minutes and add more information to it (as I did). And then take a deep breath and feel good about the value you've added to Wiki. Drew30319 13:29, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above Goodnightmush 21:49, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I agree with the above agruement that until there is a notability standard for schools, all verifiable public schools deserve the same recognition. --Kevin Murray 02:33, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • That argument doesn't work because there is no guideline that says that. 18:50, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
• Weak delete. I'm not up on the latest here, but I recall a rule of thumb that high schools are inherently notable, and anything below is not. Other than that, the article is well written and deserves to be kept on the merit of its content. 129.98.212.144 05:38, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Verifiable article about a notable institution. Nathanian 20:49, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Once again, I'll ask: How is this notable? What criteria does it meet that establish notability? -- Kicking222 14:30, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep referenced factual article about a real place. If this is the crap we're voting on deletion now ... whats next Las Vegas?  ALKIVAR™ ☢ 09:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • My house is a real place. If I could find references stating that my house exists, but that did not establish any importance for it, would it still deserve an article? -- Kicking222 14:30, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Probably not, but then again, the importance of this school has already been established. Silensor 05:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Where? Vegaswikian 00:04, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Notable educational institution which serves over 1,100 students which is verifiable through multiple reliable sources. Silensor 05:59, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • For the love of god, what makes it "notable"?! -- Kicking222 17:56, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. CRGreathouse (t | c) 09:14, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to school district article and Do not Keep. There is nothing notable there. Merge is recommend by both WP:LOCAL and WP:SCHOOLS3. Claims for notability on keep votes need to be supported. Vegaswikian 00:04, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.