The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. It's pretty clear that no one favors this move, and I do not believe it needs to be pushed any further. (closed by non-admin page mover) Thanks, 1isall (talk | contribs) . . (he/him) 20:11, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

List of Futurama episodes → List of Futurama episodes (Production order) – that article should be separated from List of Futurama episodes (Broadcast order). ~2025-42282-04 (talk) 08:22, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose and speedy close No. The production order is already noted in the article. There is no broadcast order article - your experiment draft is not valid. This suggestion and your draft fail so many MOS:TV gudielines. There is no need for two articles listing the same episodes. -- Alex_21 _TALK 08:39, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

there is a draft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Futurama_episodes_(Broadcast_order)

i am not sure should this article be just a some general information of episodes and those production ordered list and broadcast ordered list should be in their own pages? ~2025-42282-04 (talk) 09:07, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

broadcast ordered list is what people need the most. ~2025-42282-04 (talk) 09:10, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I know you think they're different. That is not a draft that will ever exist as an article. -- Alex_21 _TALK 10:18, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

and why is that? ~2025-42282-04 (talk) 07:52, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Because you have four oppositions here, the draft has been declined twice, the standing consensus has always been production order, and we don't need two lists with the same episodes in different formats. Such fan-wanted material belongs at the Fandom Wikias, not here. -- Alex_21 _TALK 21:14, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

can you link me a conversation where that consensus has been made and by who? draft has been declined and then fixed (refs) and then declined by you with just because that list already exists which is not true. and because that list is from episodes also, you think it has the same information which is also not true if you example want to check which episodes you've seen on tv and what are left or next or something like that.. surely yes, you can see that list from somewhere else, but why that is so that it HAS TO BE just production ordered list? it is pretty easy to make that another list, also that production ordered list is pretty easy to made as own list and let that episodes common information be as in one place. it also simplifies the main article and both lists to maintain. ~2025-42282-04 (talk) 22:24, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

That's what this article is for. You've now been opposed four times and told at least twice to gain a clear consensus, and to educate yourself on our guidelines and formatting. Ta. -- Alex_21 _TALK 22:36, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

surely we could do that also in a one article but then we should put all the episodes in the same huge table with columns something like: episode number (counter), episode code, production season/episode, broadcast season/episode, (like s01/e01) and so on.. and the table should be available to sort which column you want.. that would also be one solution for this. ~2025-42282-04 (talk) 22:44, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

That's fan-wanted information. This article provides everything that is needed. You can find further orderings of this exact same data elsewhere. The suggestion you have given does not conform with any Television WikiProject article, guideline or MoS. -- Alex_21 _TALK 22:53, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

this article does not provide everything that is needed. (easy broadcast ordered list of episodes) surely it can be found elsewhere. i didn't find a straight words from those guides where it is forbidden to do separate lists for different purposes or do one list with both information.. surely those guides are pretty long to fully understand quickly, especially to people whose mother-language is not an english.. ~2025-42282-04 (talk) 00:12, 2 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

could i try to do that? if that is also already hammered in some "consensus" that it is not allowed to do, i would not do that because it takes some work to do, what do you think? ~2025-42282-04 (talk) 22:55, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Get support for your changes first. So far, there's nothing here backing you up. -- Alex_21 _TALK 23:01, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

you think it has the same information which is also not true You have been told multiple times now that these lists have the same set of episodes, with the only difference being the format in which they are presented. Listen to what we are telling you. Rosaece ♡ talk ♡ contribs 08:32, 2 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

yes. it is a difference even it is the only difference. which means different information. set of episodes per season is different. you are telling me that the information is same which it is not. in example infosphere this is not a problem at all for listing those 2 DIFFERENT listings as their own, good question is, why it is problem in that case in wikipedia futurama episodes? ~2026-30760 (talk) 14:46, 2 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

sigh…I'm bowing out of this discussion because it clearly isn't going anywhere. Rosaece ♡ talk ♡ contribs 15:28, 2 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Production order is the established consensus for the list. If you so strongly believe that broadcast order is more necessary, you should raise this at its talk page. Rosaece ♡ talk ♡ contribs 09:26, 31 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

you said the issue is that the list already exist.. doing 2 lists with different name would work on that.. or doing one article which tells the basics of the serie and two separate list-articles.. ~2025-42282-04 (talk) 07:56, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

sorry, that first clause was because i first look alex was replying.. so i fix that a little: you > alex ~2025-42282-04 (talk) 07:59, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose I doubt that theseparate broadcast order draft would ever be accepted making this a moot issue.--~2025-44011-65 (talk) 05:30, 31 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  you understand that those can't ever be accepted because of that "list already exist" issue is there? ~2025-42282-04 (talk) 07:46, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Per above. BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 12:55, 31 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose, a television "series" by episodes and seasons indicates when the public is first exposed to the topic. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:26, 31 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  wikipedia is not meant to the public? ~2025-42282-04 (talk) 07:49, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose The current list and title presents all episodes. Guz13 (talk) 02:16, 3 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

  in PRODUCTION order. not in BROADCAST order. that list is missing. or the broadcast Sxx/Exx from the table of episodes.. ~2026-30760 (talk) 05:54, 3 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

  WP:BLUDGEON and WP:DEADHORSE. There is no support here. Move on. Bye. -- Alex_21 _TALK 01:48, 4 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

  yes, i have noticed that bludgeon and deadhorse here on both sides. also little confirmation bias here. that is a little problem in wikipedia nowadays and will result in loss of interest for most people to update articles. ~2026-75157 (talk) 17:53, 4 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

  You have zero support for this draft/move. Move on. -- Alex_21 _TALK 21:51, 4 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

  yes, as i said. already moved on. ~2026-75157 (talk) 03:12, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]