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This game has had a significant cultural presence, and it has been noted that Carpenter's film plays a large influence in the structure and premise of the game. As a piece of pop culture, Among Us has been incredibly popular and well known - perhaps more so than 'The Thing' ever has, in the mainstream - so much like the mention of 'The Hateful Eight's similarities to The Thing, it seems rather crucial that such a massive cultural item should be mentioned in the film's cultural impact. |
This game has had a significant cultural presence, and it has been noted that Carpenter's film plays a large influence in the structure and premise of the game. As a piece of pop culture, Among Us has been incredibly popular and well known - perhaps more so than 'The Thing' ever has, in the mainstream - so much like the mention of 'The Hateful Eight's similarities to The Thing, it seems rather crucial that such a massive cultural item should be mentioned in the film's cultural impact. |
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:Got some front to say that a game released this year has had more impact than a film that has influenced nearly 40 years of cinema and games, apparently including the one you're talking about. [[User: Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] / [[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE!]] 10:00, 7 December 2020 (UTC) |
:Got some front to say that a game released this year has had more impact than a film that has influenced nearly 40 years of cinema and games, apparently including the one you're talking about. [[User: Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] / [[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE!]] 10:00, 7 December 2020 (UTC) |
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:That's a pretty extreme claim (i.e., ''Among Us'' has a greater cultural presence and impact than ''The Thing'' does); I'm also less than convinced that meme-creation is a sign of a "significant cultural presence" than that of a passing fad. That said, there's no justification here for it having a separate paragraph of its own rather than simply being mentioned alongside other video games in the first paragraph. [[User:Grandpallama|Grandpallama]] ([[User talk:Grandpallama|talk]]) 13:15, 7 December 2020 (UTC) |
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NPV
Hi, considering the featured status of the article, does the unjustified recent edit of an unregistered user seems okay ? Regards CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 14:33, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
Edit : 46.208.236.175 edited my comment (!) to remove the word "unjustified". IP is banned for 6 months. If anyone else has the time to check all their edits. I don't. CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 14:01, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
- It was justified, and it seems OK, yes. 46.208.236.175 (talk) 14:52, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Considering your ban and that are thought to be WP:BKFIP, I doubt. CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 14:01, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
Remake?
The movie is oftentimes considered one of the greatest remakes ever made, despite the fact that it's not technically a "remake" but actually a second adaptation of the novella. I feel this should be represented in its critical reception section as it's frequently listed at the very top of many "greatest remake" lists. It's part of its overall critical reception, it is generally considered one of the greatest film remakes ever simply because there was a first adaptation of the book. Colliric (talk) 13:59, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- " Complex named it the ninth-best of the decade, calling it the "greatest genre remake of all time".[138]" - It's mentioned, but if its not "technically" a remake I'm not sure why it needs mentioning at all. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 18:11, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Article Update
Hi. Can I please add the names Norbert Weisser and Larry J. Franco to the table of cast members? If not, can you create a cast member list, and include them there? I just think it is unfair to only credit the 12 members of the research station, and nobody else. Also, if someone can find the people who operated the various Thing puppets, maybe they could be mentioned. Also, can I PLEASE edit the plot some? Blair is never shown transforming; you never see him between when he assimilates Gary & when the Blair-thing bursts from the ground. When Palmer reveals himself as a thing and attacks Windows, MacReady doesn't just "burn" them both; he blows Palmer up with a grenade. MacReady only burns Windows after he sees Windows starting to assimilate. Thank you. Jgwilliams873 (talk) 22:41, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
- Is there a reason why you can't edit the plot? I didn't see that the article's currently protected? Just keep in mind that the summary should stay under 700 words per WP:FILMPLOT.
- I don't have an opinion on the cast members currently. DonIago (talk) 01:46, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Minor cast aren't needed in the cast list. Not sure where fairness comes into it. They are named further down the article. And MacReady does burn them both, I distinctly remember Palmer being very much on fire. Him throwing a grenade at him after he falls down is a minor detail that is not necessary to understand that Palmer is dead. Similarly, the reader knows that Windows is now infected beyond saving, and is burned. The thing at the end is Blair, and there is a difference between the Blair that kills Garry and the Blair that faces MacReady, so he does transform. You're complaining about Semantics vs Readability. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 08:06, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
AN EXTRA SECTION I COULD ADD
I am willing to write a new section for this article, as based upon the prequel, so to connect what the characters saw when they went to other base - for eg- the dead man found had a backstory an was named Colin - so i could add in a small section to help viewers understand who the earlier victims were - is that ok? VC 23:55, 24 October 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vcorani (talk • contribs)
- That "section" is called The Thing (2011 film) Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 15:12, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
IN REPLY
Not really as thats just a separate film article - an so doesnt join-up to the first film, an so you have to click elsewhere to read it. But what i'm proposing is proper rundown, like a checklist for reference, to join the dots. Something then, more compact as a tie-in for comparison than long an wordy article. VC 22:33, 25 October 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vcorani (talk • contribs)
- There's a separate article for a reason. None of that backstory existed for this film. WP: UNIVERSE, in-universe info is meant to be kept to a minimum. A plot section is basically the most allowed. You're talking about taking the plot of the 2011 film and adding a section for it here so people know the backstory to a dead hunk of meat. It's not needed. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 22:53, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Horror Express
I let the addition of Horror Express sit while I researched it and can not find any evidence to back it up. I've never heard of the film while researching this one. I looked up "Keep Watching the Skies" here @ Web Archive and can find no mention of the film in it at all even at the pages listed. I know its the 2010 edition but it's got Catwomen from the Moon in there so it seems unlikely they out that specific entry or dedicated 11 pages to it when most are 2-4. The article for Horror Express itself merely says it is based on Who Goes There. Nowhere in the article is that sourced. The few sites I can find that mention both Horror Express and Who Goes There like this and this only raise that the two are similar, and not that any direct creditable influence took place or that the film was explicitly based on the book. As such I find the claim, at the moment, to not be credible. If the version of Keep Watching the Skies you are using has this in, please take a photo and share it with us. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 11:22, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi - sorry for the late reply. I don't have a copy of the book, as I took the source featured in both the Horror Express and The Thing From Another World at face value. However, I will have a look out for any other sources that clearly mention if Horror Express was derived from Who Goes There?. PatTheMoron (talk) 03:54, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Case for the inclusion of 'Among Us' as a cultural impact mention.
This game has had a significant cultural presence, and it has been noted that Carpenter's film plays a large influence in the structure and premise of the game. As a piece of pop culture, Among Us has been incredibly popular and well known - perhaps more so than 'The Thing' ever has, in the mainstream - so much like the mention of 'The Hateful Eight's similarities to The Thing, it seems rather crucial that such a massive cultural item should be mentioned in the film's cultural impact.
- Got some front to say that a game released this year has had more impact than a film that has influenced nearly 40 years of cinema and games, apparently including the one you're talking about. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 10:00, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- That's a pretty extreme claim (i.e., Among Us has a greater cultural presence and impact than The Thing does); I'm also less than convinced that meme-creation is a sign of a "significant cultural presence" than that of a passing fad. That said, there's no justification here for it having a separate paragraph of its own rather than simply being mentioned alongside other video games in the first paragraph. Grandpallama (talk) 13:15, 7 December 2020 (UTC)



