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He is an author of the philosophy book entitled Universally Preferable Behavior. ^[1] Rutterbrian (talk) 00:24, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A quick search shows a few dozen "books" published in 2017. All of them are listed either without a publisher or under vanity press. (I'm assuming they are simply transcripts of his podcasts and youtube clips.)

In any case, I have yet to run across an independent reliable source that so much as mentions them, so I can't imagine what we'd say. - SummerPhD^v2.0 06:57, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Molyneux' books are not transcripts of his podcasts and YouTube clips. --Cgt (talk) 11:27, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@SummerPhDv2.0: I'm aware of the book, it has been mentioned in reliable sources. Of course, nothing good has been said about it in an RS to my knowledge: the book is laughably bad. Here's a good source by a notable subject matter expert, David Gordon (philosopher). The best thing about this source is that The Mises Institute is a libertarian/pseudo-anarcho-capitalist thinktank, so if anyone should be praising it, it should be them. I think that this is worthy of inclusion, as it shows that Molyneux is a philosopher in name only. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) ^{please always ping!} 18:29, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

They aren't transcripts? The number I saw dated 2017 makes Stephen King look like a slacker.

I would think that showing one libertarian/pseudo-anarcho-capitalist thinktank doesn't like it would show that one libertarian/pseudo-anarcho-capitalist thinktank doesn't like it. Would we typically cite the Mises Institute re a vanity press book on philosophy? Why this one as opposed to any/all of the others? - SummerPhD^v2.0 21:12, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think all of them are transcripts, but its likely that many are.

This has come up before. I've looked for sources, and the Gordon one is the closest to being reliable. Gordon's review has been in the article on the past, but has been removed. Since the only arguably reliable source we have is directly telling us that his book isn't worth taking seriously, it's probably not all that important to the article either way.

Some of the handful of blog posts about the books are from academics (such as this popular post) but that's not necessarily enough, especially for a BLP. Grayfell (talk) 21:56, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Does how good or bad the book is help determine whether or not he authored it? Rutterbrian (talk) 04:02, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No. Whether or not independent reliable sources had anything to say about it determines whether Wikipedia says anything about it. Like everyone else in the world, Molyneux has done lots of things in his life. Most of them aren't worth mentioning. self-published transcripts of a podcast are simply far less likely to be a meaningful part of his notability.

For example, Stan and Jan Berenstain wrote a lot of books, most of them about a family of anthropomorphic bears who are wholesome in a very conservative, mainline Protestant kinda way. The articles about them (and various articles about the series of books, individual titles, spin-off TV show, etc.) talk about them a lot, because that's what the sources talk about. A few of the sources mention their earlier books -- a series of bawdy titles apparently aimed at heterosexual teenage boys. So, the article about them mentions them, but that's about it.

What independent reliable sources cover, Wikipedia covers. What they ignore, Wikipedia ignores. - SummerPhD^v2.0 05:19, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• As I've said several times, I am interested in any reliable sources which discuss his books. For that matter, any reliable sources which aren't already in the article, and which are more than passing mentions, can be posted to this talk page. Grayfell (talk) 08:20, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"is a far-right, white nationalist Canadian podcaster and YouTuber" - INCORRECT.

"is a Canadian anarcho-capitalist philosopher, writer, podcaster and YouTuber" - CORRECT.

[1] https://www.freedomain.com/about-stefan-molyneux/ [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfWWI_6r3ro - The truth about Stefan Molyneux

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"who is known for his promotion of scientific racism and white supremacist views." - INCORRECT.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEGa6sLexp8 - The Untruth About Stefan Molyneux 1: "I don’t view humanity as a single species...” [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSSK28AEuo8 - The Untruth About Stefan Molyneux 2: "The whole arena of the species needs to be cleaned up!” [3] https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMNj_r5bccUyYzJ5G1GgvfM59JEpDkteX - Human Intelligence (IQ) | The Experts Interview Series

"who is known for his promotion of reason, evidence, voluntarism, Aristotelian philosophy, stateless society and peaceful parenting." - CORRECT.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmrZ4SiO54E - Everyday Anarchy - The Complete Book from Freedomain Radio [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYmogRO8HzI - Peaceful Parenting Explained [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXMKRJyedmg - An Introduction to Peaceful Parenting :) [4] https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMNj_r5bccUwZY7RCZnS2e5-vjaA7wSNw - Peaceful Parenting playlist [5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A - The story of your enslavement [6] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vlORHHRX5o - Reason vs. Emotion [7] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZvTXFxPwb0 - Universally Preferable Behavior

ALL sources referenced towards these claims, misinterpret or blatantly lie about Stefan by quoting completely out of context and/or splicing words of his to fit the already pre-concluded narrative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ReasonableAleks (talk • contribs) 13:23, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Every link you give is directly from Stefan himself. Wikipedia articles must rely primarily on independent, published sources, without placing undue attention on the subject's own views. See WP:IS. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 15:05, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed it anyway. Please correct me if I've done anything wrong Spacejunkjim (talk) 15:51, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the key policies WP:RS and WP:BLP and seek consensus here before making dramatic, POV edits that rely unduly on primary sources from the subject of a BLP. Newimpartial (talk) 16:12, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't make such radical changes without a consensus on the talk page. Your changes radically change the core point of this page. GreenFrogsGoRibbit (talk) 05:54, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All 53 citations already point to a similar picture of the guy being "a far-right, white nationalist Canadian podcaster and YouTuber" and those citations point to common reliable sources for this website, known for there neutrality throughout history (even before Wikipedia). Your description is extremely biased, romanticized and filled with mental gymnastics to justify his "perceived behavior" noted on this page. Also, pretty much every source you cite is the dude's own Youtube videos. Youtube videos are awful to use as sources, to begin with, but youtube videos of the guy himself and not a netreul new sources? It's not like his Youtube video is only one of your proposed sources, it's the overwhelming majority of your proposed sources. Not only is that awful from the most basic writing sense, but it clearly violates WP:RELIABLE, WP:NEUTRAL and WP:BLP. The dude is exactly as those 53 sources perceive him as, and he, therefore, he attracts a fandom of similar ideals and that is exactly why this page will remain locked forever. GreenFrogsGoRibbit (talk) 05:54, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please keep the wiki page to factual information and not editor opinion Accurate Pickles (talk) 00:53, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 00:54, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]