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::Perhaps we could start a Request for Comment on the talk page [[Template:Country data New Caledonia]] where we mention that a previous consensus was reached to display the two flags together on the main article, therefore to ensure consistency we also make the "both" qualifier the default setting for the template? Since we don't have the Template Editor permission to do it ourselves, I'm sure we could get someone to agree to do it per the consensus we reached. <span style="background-color:#de0080;font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:BrendonTheWizard|<span style="color: white;">Brendon the Wizard</span>]]</span> <span style="color:#0099ff">[[User talk:BrendonTheWizard#top|✉️]] [[Special:Contributions/BrendonTheWizard|✨]]</span> 15:18, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
::Perhaps we could start a Request for Comment on the talk page [[Template:Country data New Caledonia]] where we mention that a previous consensus was reached to display the two flags together on the main article, therefore to ensure consistency we also make the "both" qualifier the default setting for the template? Since we don't have the Template Editor permission to do it ourselves, I'm sure we could get someone to agree to do it per the consensus we reached. <span style="background-color:#de0080;font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:BrendonTheWizard|<span style="color: white;">Brendon the Wizard</span>]]</span> <span style="color:#0099ff">[[User talk:BrendonTheWizard#top|✉️]] [[Special:Contributions/BrendonTheWizard|✨]]</span> 15:18, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
:::Thanks. I'm sadly quite inexperimented with such a procedure. Even more so on the english wiki. Is there any help page in which I could learn how exactly I could do this? --[[User:Aréat|Aréat]] ([[User talk:Aréat#top|talk]]) 15:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
:::Thanks. I'm sadly quite inexperimented with such a procedure. Even more so on the english wiki. Is there any help page in which I could learn how exactly I could do this? --[[User:Aréat|Aréat]] ([[User talk:Aréat#top|talk]]) 15:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
::::I have started a discussion at [[Template talk:Country data New Caledonia]]. For information on the procedure for getting a consensus, there is helpful information on the page [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment]] <span style="background-color:#de0080;font-family:Trebuchet MS">[[User:BrendonTheWizard|<span style="color: white;">Brendon the Wizard</span>]]</span> <span style="color:#0099ff">[[User talk:BrendonTheWizard#top|✉️]] [[Special:Contributions/BrendonTheWizard|✨]]</span> 15:29, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

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October 2016

Please stop adding data for Hawaii to the table at List of countries and dependencies by population. Hawaii is neither a country nor a dependency. It's a state belonging to the United States. If you want to add Hawaii, then all US states need to be added, as well as all the Australian states and so on, but this is not the purpose of the article. You are already aware that "areas that form integral parts of sovereign states" are not included, so I do not understand why you are adding Hawaii at all. --AussieLegend () 07:55, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried to delete France's five Overseas Regions -Guyane, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Mayotte and Reunion - with exactly the same arguments - they're neither countries nor dependencies but full part of a listed country, yet the changes were removed by differents people, so I thought adding them was indeed "useful information".
If you thinks otherwise for Hawaii, can you do the same for the above regions? Or post your opinion on the matter in the talkpage. It would be helpful.--Aréat (talk) 08:11, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on List of countries and dependencies by population. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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  • I've given you this warning because you are clearly edit-warring. Your edits have been reverted and yet you continue to reinsert them. It is up to you to convince other editors to accept your changes by discussing the matter on the article's talk page, per WP:BRD. Simply forcing your edits into the article will lead to only one conclusion - you will find yourself unable to edit Wikipedia at all. Per WP:STATUSQUO, the unmodified version of the article rules until discussion is complete. --AussieLegend () 08:26, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I already posted a request for help and the answer was that the discussion hasn't been fully completed. The other parties aren't contibuting anymore. How long should I wait without an answer for an eventual change to be accepted as not being an edit war?
Beside, if you removed Hawaii on the ground it's neither a country nor a dependencie, would my removal of the above mentioned french regions on the same ground be considered an edit war?

Updated Mali TFR map

I updated Mali TFR map, per your request. (see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Countriesbyfertilityrate.svg ) Thanks for noticing the mistake. Innab (talk) 05:25, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mauritanian referendum

Hello Aréat. Has the referendum been confirmed? I've seen a few news stories saying that the President wanted one, but none that it's been officially called. Cheers, Number 57 23:22, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's been confirmed, voted on during a Council of Minister and officially scheduled for 15 july 2017 by the government, yes.--Aréat (talk) 23:42, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, thanks! Number 57 15:12, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Second round date

Yes, the source does give a date, but the article I linked reports the electoral commission's chairman as being "silent on when the second and final round will be held". [1] Also, if you object to only part of an edit, could you try to avoid reverting the entire edit? Everyking (talk) 04:53, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What I meant is that if you got a source to back your change, include it in the article, not in your edit description.--Aréat (talk) 19:12, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war warning

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Unsourced content

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Alternative for Germany ‎. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Jytdog (talk) 21:37, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I answered you on the talk page. I added a full source for the handful of words I added to the back of a sentence to further clarify it. I believe I've been sourcing more thoroughly than most. As for the edit war, I'm rather surprised. Did you read the source ? It contain what I added. Cordially.--Aréat (talk) 04:41, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your contributed article, Next Japanese general election

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Thanks for the clarification, I was getting a bit confused here.--Aréat (talk) 15:41, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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SSM and Peru

Hi. You recently made an edit to the SSM article saying Peru's judge merely made an advisory comment, and that the govt would look into it. I'll assume your sources are valid and will remove Peru from the map, but could you give your sources somewhere? Either on the SSM talk page or, better yet, in the LGBT rights in Peru article? — kwami (talk) 22:28, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Well, thanks you for the message. It look a bit infantilizing to me, to be honest, but I sure appreciate the intention.--Aréat (talk) 13:21, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Just wondering where you got the seat figures from? I can't find them on the TSE website or on any of the Salvadoran news websites I checked. Cheers, Number 57 21:44, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I got them from the spanish page. I assume the users here know how many seats these numbers represent once 100 % of the votes have been counted, or have access to Salvadorian medias. Not that it wouldn't be better to eventually have a precise source, but it will do in the meanwhile. --Aréat (talk) 21:52, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The results on es.wiki are now different (they have ARENA on 37 seats not 39), but still unsourced. I am quite wary of using unsourced seats as I've seen a few editors miscalculate them over the years... Number 57 21:58, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. Just wondering if you got the ping I gave you yesterday? I pinged a few editors but got no responses, which made me wonder whether it worked (it can be quite tempremental). BTW, in the Bhutanese results, I saw one candidate was elected with only 13% of the vote (in Mongar District); I wonder whether this is a record for the lowest amount received by a winning candidate for a national parliament seat... Number 57 12:21, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, sorry for the lack of message. I'm a bit busy these days and honestly found myself a bit confused by the matter at hand, so I refrained from giving my opinion on a question I don't fully grasp. As for the Bhutanese election, that's quite the original result indeed. With this many candidates it look like there's a growing eagerness to participate in the political life in bhutan. I sure hope so, anyways. Seeing a democracy blooming over the past decade was fascinating. With both wins and struggles. I recall that in the previous election there was a constituency in which there simply was only one candidate, with the vote there turning into a direct yes or no referendum for the candidate. ^^ I find these sort of relatively small sized election very interesting, like the ones in the Falklands or in many of the pacifics islands. Imagine having your representative simply campaign door to door, and the vote being won over a handful of convinced electors. Very neat.--Aréat (talk) 05:25, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there were noticeably more candidates this time around, and I thought it was also notable that several of the incumbents were heavily beaten, so presumably not impressing the electorate. I wonder whether some of the low vote shares for winning candidates will make them think again about FPTP. I contacted the chap who runs the Election Passport website and he mentioned that candidates used to win regularly with less than 10% of the vote in Papua New Guinea before they moved away from FPTP. Number 57 15:48, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jobbik

Here, in the Wikipedia, the colour of the Jobbik is black since the 2010 parliamentary election. See, for instance tables and maps. There were/are numerous parliamentary parties which were marked with green in different shades (MDF, KDNP, FKGP, LMP, PM etc.) --Norden1990 (talk) 08:28, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

But none use the distinctive darker shade, and most are <1% very minors parties, while the MDF went extinct before Jobbik was created, so they're not on a page at the same time. If we want to make distinctive colors, it is logical to use either one of the three color used by the aprty instead of a different unused one, or change the colors of the benign parties, don't you think so?--Aréat (talk) 19:02, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just a little tip

Months (June, July etc) are written with a capital letter! Thanks for all your recent work :) Number 57 21:16, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Question regarding your deletion of quotation attribution

Hi Aréat. Would you please explain this edit. You offered no edit summary and it's not obvious to me why you made the change you did. Thank you. Dayirmiter (talk) 08:52, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't neutral enough for an intro. That's the sort of details you must add in the article further on. Cordially. --Aréat (talk) 09:01, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Aréat, thank you for the reply. I am very much in favor of maintaining a neutral point of view. I do not, however, believe that this includes or should be understood to allow the suppression of facts. The material you excised ("Researcher Angie Heal, herself hired and then ignored by local officials"), in addition to identifying the source of the quotation, contains the facts that
(1) Angie Heal was a researcher,
(2) Angie Heal was hired by local officials, and
(3) Angie Heal was ignored by local officials regarding child exploitation.
The first two facts, well attested by the sources, are surely uncontroversial.
I understand you might feel the assertion that Angie Heal was ignored by local officials seems condemnatory and thus non-neutral. But this is one of the fundaments of the article: the scandal of local officials ignoring evidence of child abuse over many years. Local officials did, in fact, ignore Angie Heal's warnings, again as is well attested in the sources. To state that this occurred is not non-neutral. To illustrate this ignoring of evidence by local officials with concise reference to a central actor in that aspect of the case is, in my opinion, completely appropriate and desirable at this point in the article. If I have missed something here, please let me know.
In the meantime, I will replace the identification of the source of the quotation. Thanks again for your work on this article.
By the way, at a slightly different level of analysis, I would respectfully suggest further consideration of the idea that material may be "not neutral enough" for one part of an article but okay somewhere else in the article. It seems to me that if it violates neutrality in the lead, it will violate neutrality anywhere it appears. Conversely, if material is sufficiently neutral to appear anywhere in the article, then lack of neutrality cannot be a condition on which to exclude it from the lead.
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Zairean constitutional referendum, 1973

Good spot. It was listed at the African Elections Database at the time I created the article, but was later removed. It was a mistake on the AED's behalf – they had confused it with Republic of the Congo constitutional referendum, 1973. I've deleted the article as I was the only significant contributor to it, and it was clearly incorrect (no other source lists it). Cheers, Number 57 21:57, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Glad I could help. The page had left me rather confused as I couldn't find mention of it. These damn two congos always inducing quiproquo. :P While we're at it, thanks for your tremendous works on election articles and templates. They've been of great help over the years.--Aréat (talk) 22:05, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No problem at all. If you're interested Antemister and I did some work a long time ago to try and ensure that all the national election templates were complete. There are still quite a few outstanding, so if you have anything to add, please do! Cheers, Number 57 16:07, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I will be sure to give a hand if I find things to improve. --Aréat (talk) 20:00, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

September 2018

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My bad. I do know it should not be done. It was an error while editing several tabs. Cordially. --Aréat (talk) 22:31, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

November 2018

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Without a consensus, you've moved and rewritten the article more than 3 times in one day. It's "Bold, Revert, Discuss", not "Bold, Revert, Bold, Revert, Bold, Revert, Bold." Brendon the Wizard ✉️ 00:43, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've protected the page so y'all can discuss. Be advised that a block for edit warring would also stop the disruption while not inconveniencing uninvolved editors, so consider this is boon.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 03:23, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Bangladesh General election 2018

How does you change the colour of Bangladesh Awami League. Ehsan2186 (talk) 02:55, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Bangladesh Awami League/meta/color. --Aréat (talk) 03:05, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2015 Guyanese general election

I think the Caribbean Elections website is wrong. Their totals for Regions 7 and 8 do not match the GECOM reports (7, 8, Overall), and this is the difference between the two vote tallies. Cheers, Number 57 21:27, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks ! --Aréat (talk) 21:28, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

color on SSM map

Salut Aréat,

I'm a little leery of just changing the color of the map per your comment without any indication from you that you think my suggested color would be an improvement, since I just changed that color and I don't want to make things too chaotic. Although, what I came up with in response to you comment does strike me as an improvement. Do you agree?

Please ping me if you answer, or reply on the SSM talk page. — kwami (talk) 02:51, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kwamikagami: I like it. Although imo the green coukd use a less flashy shade. Help:Using colours --Aréat (talk) 05:26, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree about the green, but since the argument was about the distingishability of the colors, I wanted to be sure it was distinct! I'll copy your answer to the SSM talk page and upload the purple map since no-one else has commented one way or the other. (With pigments, purple is a blend of blue and red, so it's an iconic match as well.) — kwami (talk) 08:16, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think you could still use green but simply chose a dimmer shade. --Aréat (talk) 08:19, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

The Mauritania Barnstar of National Merit
Thank you for your contributions at Flag of Mauritania, which solved a year-long question regarding which version of the new flag is to be displayed on Wikipedia! Brendon the Wizard ✉️ 14:54, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@BrendonTheWizard: Thank you Brendon! My pleasure, really. Speaking of flags, is there any way you could help me or advise me on how to make Template:Country data New Caledonia fit with the consensus we had on Flags of New Caledonia. The standard template should really be the one with the "both" qualifier, now. Cordially.--Aréat (talk) 15:01, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps we could start a Request for Comment on the talk page Template:Country data New Caledonia where we mention that a previous consensus was reached to display the two flags together on the main article, therefore to ensure consistency we also make the "both" qualifier the default setting for the template? Since we don't have the Template Editor permission to do it ourselves, I'm sure we could get someone to agree to do it per the consensus we reached. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ 15:18, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'm sadly quite inexperimented with such a procedure. Even more so on the english wiki. Is there any help page in which I could learn how exactly I could do this? --Aréat (talk) 15:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have started a discussion at Template talk:Country data New Caledonia. For information on the procedure for getting a consensus, there is helpful information on the page Wikipedia:Requests for comment Brendon the Wizard ✉️ 15:29, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]