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Hi, Folks--

Well, it's been seventeen years since the band fired Steve Perry, and eight years since they hired Arnel Pineda. Seems to me it's time to make two sections out of this era. My initial thoughts are:

• "A new Steve, 1998-2007" (which would include the Jeff Scott Soto interlude)
• "Lead singer replaced again, 2007-present"

What are yours?

Dave Golland (talk) 14:37, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK, it's been a month, so I'll give it a try. Dave Golland (talk) 16:36, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In line with other bands that had hiatuses etc. shouldn't the years active read 1973-1983, 1986-1987, 1995- present? Bomberswarm2 (talk) 10:13, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No objection in principle, but we should be careful how we define hiatus. The term is currently being used retrospectively because it looks like a hiatus when you look back on it, but the band never officially went on hiatus. If we choose to split the active dates, I'd recommend at a minimum not counting the pre-1986 period as a hiatus just because certain band members found time for solo projects. Dave Golland (talk) 16:50, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As the most recent drummer, even though he hasn't (yet) recorded with the band, perhaps Omar Hakim should be listed--at least for the time being--as a current band member? What do fellow editors think? Dave Golland (talk) 15:34, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously this point is now moot. We should start thinking about starting a new section in the history, beginning in 2015. But let's wait and watch as things develop. After all, if Steve Smith's back, who knows what else is about to happen? One can dare to dream (after dream). Dave Golland (talk) 14:01, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I uploaded an image of Journey that was recently released via a news article. This is the only current photo that I've been able to find of the band, and was told to discuss why the image is 'not replacable'. Seeing as the drummer in the current band image on the page was arrested for shady business, I think it's important to upload an image of the band which shows the current line-up.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Burningblue52 (talk • contribs)

The answer is to get a free image of the current band line-up. Using a press release image does not comply with Wikipedia:Non-free content. -- Whpq (talk) 19:54, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I hope someone finds an acceptable new photo soon. I agree, the current photo is misleading. Also, BurningBlue52, thanks for editing! Always good to add another interested editor. I like the phrase "co-lead vocals" for Rolie (refering to the Perry period). Dave Golland (talk) 16:56, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think the timeline has become over-complicated, with all the multi-colored lines representing secondary instruments. It already includes the several musicians who either only toured with Journey or only recorded with them. I think we should go back to six simple colors: lead vocals, guitar, keyboards, bass, drums, management, with Gregg Rolie represented twice. Thoughts? Dave Golland (talk) 13:43, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'm tentatively doing it. Dave Golland (talk) 14:54, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Dave Golland: I support your concerns. - Mlpearc (open channel) 15:24, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Dave Golland: Pretty much every other timeline has those multicolored lines. Some even have 3, or 4 or sometimes even more. I think having two of the same person just makes it more complicated. If you didn't already know who Greg Rolie was, it would seem as if the person on keys and on vocals are the same person. There is a way to make all the lines thicker, to make it easier to see, but splitting them up would make it very confusing. IanHMiller (talk) 21:44, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has presented what appears to be a credible source that Louisiana musician Travis Thibodeaux performed backup keyboards and background vocals with Journey on the 2016 tour. Previously we've only listed touring musicians who covered one of the main instruments, leaving out secondary musicians who helped out. Part of the argument for this had to do with the copious session musicians in the orchestra on Dream, after Dream; listing them all individually would be exhaustive, and they weren't really session musicians for Journey in the traditional sense. My inclination is to drop Thibodeaux (for now, pending his actual replacement of Jonathan Cain) and limit all session and touring musicians to those who served as primary artists on tour or in the studio. What are your thoughts? Dave Golland (talk) 15:55, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]