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Introduction section was edited to make article misleading. Introoduction part should describe the nature of the conflict and oposing forces. The information about opositioon was deleted on 1st November and introduction only describes Government forces. The follwing section should be reincluded into intrduction:

The armed opposition consists of various groups that were either formed during the course of the conflict or joined from abroad. In the north-west of the country, the main opposition faction is the al-Qaeda-affiliated al-Nusra Front allied with numerous other smaller Islamist groups, some of which operate under the umbrella of the Free Syrian Army (FSA).^[1] The designation of the FSA by the West as a moderate opposition faction allows it, under the CIA-run programmes,^[2][3][4] to receive sophisticated weaponry and other military support from the U.S. and some Gulf countries that effectively increases the total fighting capacity of the Islamist rebels.^[5][6] In the east, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), a jihadist militant group originating from Iraq, made rapid military gains in both Syria and Iraq. ISIL eventually came into conflict with other rebels, especially with Al-Nusra, leaders of which did not want to pledge allegiance to ISIL. By July 2014, ISIL controlled a third of Syria's territory and most of its oil and gas production, thus establishing itself as the principal anti-government force.^[7] As of 2015, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey are openly backing the Army of Conquest, an umbrella rebel group that reportedly includes an al-Qaeda linked al-Nusra Front and another Salafi coalition known as Ahrar ash-Sham, and Faylaq Al-Sham, a coalition of Muslim Brotherhood-linked rebel groups.^[8][9][10] Also, in the north-east, local Kurdish militias such as the YPG have taken up arms and have fought with both rebel Islamist factions^[11] and government loyalists.^[12]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.70.4.126 (talk) 21:04, 6 November 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]

Syrian Turkmen Brigades, Turkmen Mountain ,Syrian Turkmen Assembly and Bayırbucak ,

The Sultan Murat Brigades took control of the villages on Azaz-Jarablus front in northern Aleppo province alongside troops from the Damascus Front, a group fighting ISIL and regime forces. Turkmen seize Syrian villages controlled by ISIL

National Coalition of Syrian Revolution and Opposition Forces Turkman Component of the Syrian National Coalition

Since Russia began air strikes on the Turkmen mountains in north-west Syria last month, nearly 5,000 people from the country's ethnic Turkmen minority have fled their homes. Many have crossed the border into Turkey's Hatay province, their plight overshadowed by a diplomatic row between Turkey and Russia.The Syrian Turkmen taking flight from Russian bombing

The explanation is out there that this is not primarily a Civil War but a struggle taking place in & around Syria based on foreign interests, with foreign mercenaries fighting, and geopolitical goals of other nations primary -- chiefly outsiders meddling in Syria. What would be an objective, substitute title? I am not sure what is the procedure for changing the title of an article. How about "The Early 21st Century War in Syria"? (EnochBethany (talk) 17:08, 30 December 2015 (UTC))[reply]

Wikipedia generally uses most common name of conflict as a title. Also most civil wars in recent history had lots of foreign meddling.--Staberinde (talk) 17:15, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know what percent of the fighters on the ground are Syrians? What about the percent of fighters in the air??? What percent of the weapons are Syrian? Is this essentially a civil war between Syrians? Is this chiefly a war by outsiders? (EnochBethany (talk) 04:32, 1 January 2016 (UTC))[reply]

The lead of our article today defines the topic of the article as: “… an ongoing multisided armed conflict with international interventions taking place in Syria” while referring to this October2015 Reuters article which defines the situation in Syria as "Syria war", saying: ‘Iran troops to join Syria war (…)’. While the conflict at some stage quite likely was best typified as 'civil war', presently the label 'war' is perhaps better fitting. I imagine – though I haven't been throroughly doing research on it, yet – that quite many, perhaps most, commentators and news articles nowadays refer to it as 'the war in Syria', realising (as EnochBethany argues) that many, perhaps most, of the fighters (and 'interests') in this war are by now no longer Syrian. 'Syrian 21st century war' could then be a concise and correct title for our article. --Corriebertus (talk) 15:22, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Headline writers will compress war names. Clearly there is a war in Syria. We use the most common precise title - and your suggestion is neither. Legacypac (talk) 15:45, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Could we have this topic as part of the topical archives, so we don't have to waste our time? It comes up every other week. Or is the list of move requests of the same function? FunkMonk (talk) 16:14, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't "argues" the issue, one way or the other; but I am interested in it. And I wonder if there is any proof that the most common name for this war is the "Syrian Civil War" instead of just the "War in Syria," or the "Syrian War," a shorter name BTW. And which is a more important principle, "common name" or "question-begging name"? IMHO This issue is something that should not be swept under the rug. I don't claim to know how much of a civil war vs how much of a battle ground for outside nations this war is. But I am sure that the topic is very relevant to the article and important, AEB your observation that it continually comes up. As more information comes to light, I would like to read it -- at least on the talk page. Peace -- to use an ironic closing. (EnochBethany (talk) 01:24, 3 January 2016 (UTC))[reply]

@FunkMonk: The move requests should be an indication but if you want to be more clear we could make a new page called Talk:Syrian Civil War/FAQ that links above. Note: This was done with Chelsea Manning (Talk:Chelsea Manning/FAQ) - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:52, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

War is Syria is a topic that covers thousands of years of recorded history. As far as we know this is the first Civil WR in Syria. WWII was called the 'War in Europe' by contemporary newspapers because a newspaper does not need to distinguish - they are printing New(s) info even though there have been wars through recorded history in Europe. Legacypac (talk) 02:11, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I notice that EnochB considers this an "important" and "very relevant" issue/topic ( titling the article as 'war' or 'civil war'): I agree to that. Legacypac on 2+3 January did not address the issue raised here. If anyone does not have an opinion on an issue raised somewhere, he/she is kindly requested not to comment in such a section, lest he would be interested in disturbing/hindering a (serious) discussion of others. The same goes for FunkMonk, and Knowledgekid. Once again: please, have the politeness not to disturb legitimate discussions of others on some Talk page. Enoch: please don't use too much abbreviations ("BTW"?). --Corriebertus (talk) 10:13, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My comment was clear and Corriebertus's comments about me are out of line. I'll AGF and assume Corriebertus just can't understand English very well. This topic gets addressed every week, see archives, and stop wasting time discussing stuff that has been discussed to death.Legacypac (talk) 14:31, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

LP suggests that the issue has been discussed before. So what? If someone is of the opinion that an issue has been discussed before and that a conclusion was reached based on arguments and that those arguments don’t yet seem to have changed, he should say so and refer to that older discussion. In that way, others can take their time to read over that old discussion, and verify for themselves whether all or most of those arguments are still ‘in force’. If for 18 days no one posts a new comment here, the discussion will automatically be closed. There’s no need nor justification nor logic yet to (hurriedly) close it now – unless you want to hush/stifle/forbid free discussions on Wikipedia. --Corriebertus (talk) 14:53, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, browse the archives and I'll also point you at the Requested Moves linked at the top of this talk page including the last one [1]. See the big box at the top that says "Discussions on this page often lead to previous arguments being restated. Please read recent comments and look in the archives before commenting." You should also not reverse discussion closures by uninvolved editors. [2] and [3]. Legacypac (talk) 15:41, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The term is civil war, because it's the usual name of the conflict. Nuke (talk) 02:22, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As Nuke says. Wikipedia policy is to go with the common name, and that is civil war. EkoGraf (talk) 19:08, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree. This is a pretty straight-forward WP:V/WP:WEIGHT/WP:COMMONNAME issue. On this project, we do not extrapolate article titles (or content in general) by applying our own logic as to what we think of the subject matter--no matter how iron-clad we believe our reasoning and our interpretations of the facts to be. Rather, we only report/parallel the perspectives of WP:Reliable sources with regard to any given topic, and, to the greatest extent possible, keep ourselves and our personal perspectives out of the matter, including with regard to organizational schemes. It seems generally beyond dispute that sources overwhelmingly classify this conflict as a civil war--not withstanding the many regional and global interests intertwined with the horrific national tragedy. If someone wants to contest this assumption with an argument based on the balance of perspectives portrayed in the RS, that is one thing; I think it's probably a WP:SNOW argument to make that assertion, but at least the approach would be consistent with Wikipedia policy. However, maintaining that we should not use a given handle because "obviously, a civil war needs to...'A, B, C'" or because "logically, this isn't a civil war because 'X, Y, Z'" is a pretty obvious attempt to supplant WP:original research into the role meant to be played by legitimate sourcing. Snow ^{let's rap} 05:03, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Horrific images and stories of starving children have suddenly flooded the media as the reality of life in the town of Madaya in Syria, besieged by Syrian regime sources and Hezbollah, has surfaced. But what is perhaps more shocking than the images is how the deliberate targeting of the population of Madaya has been taking place since July 2015 without the international community noticing.

This is despite activists in Madaya desperately trying to direct global attention to the atrocities committed there by the Syrian regime and its ally Hezbollah. It is only when the situation in Madaya reached the level of mass starvation that the international media have paid attention. [4]

Madaya: Syrian regime supporters share food photos to taunt starving civilians trapped in town A hashtag meaning "solidarity with the siege of Madaya" was being used to support the Syrian army [5]

Over 3,000 Syrian Turkmen have fled to Turkey in recent days: official More than 3,000 members of Syria's Turkmen minority have fled across the Turkish border over the past three days to escape an offensive by pro-government forces in Syria's northwest, a Turkish official said Sunday.

"To date, over 3,100 Turkmen have entered Turkey where they are being supported by the authorities" in southern Hatay province, the official told AFP on condition of anonymity. Russian heavy shelling , Syria has launched a new influx of refugees — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.162.146.3 (talk) 20:03, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Turkey is part of the US-led coalition, however it does not actively support Kurd fighters, as Edogan has repetedly called YPG and PYD as terrorists and has criticized the West for backing Syrian Kurds.[6][7] --Z 10:45, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Provided evidence of the support of the Turkish military forces (for artillery fire large caliber) and the purchase oil off the terrorists.)

Jump up ^ https://russian.rt.com/article/145541 Jump up ^ http://lifenews.ru/news/182947 Jump up ^ http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1579521/video/

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No Daesh in Bayırbucak Turkmen region bombed by Russians, only civilians, Erdoğan says

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on Wednesday dismissed Russia's claims and underscored that there are no Daesh terrorists in Bayırbucak region of Latakia Governorate in Syria and underscored that Turkmen civilians were there. "Some say there is Daesh in that area. There are no Daesh terrorists in Bayırbucak region of Latakia, Daesh is in Jarablous" Erdoğan said at a meeting of the Standing Committee for Economic and Commercial Cooperation of the Organization of the Islamic Cooperation (COMCEC)Russian no daesh in Bayirbucak Turkmen bombing

Syria’s Bayir Bucak area has witnessed mass displacement of Turkmen who fled their homes Saturday following attacks by Syrian and Russian forces, local sources told News Agencys.Bombing Bayirbucak

More than 6,000 flee besieged Bayırbucak take shelter in Turkey Syrian Turkmen Refuguee — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.140.225.59 (talk) 13:33, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No Daesh/ISIL most likely, but without a doubt there are plenty of various armed opposition groups. FSA may have their legit point to make, but al-nusra and the rest of army of conquest etc better pack their bags or they will get their share of metal, and rightly so they are getting it.Hammer5000 (talk) 16:52, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

By now, it should be pretty clear that the Russians don't care what brand of Islamist rebel they bomb. In any case, Erdogan isn't exactly a reliable source. FunkMonk (talk) 16:57, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well they all pretty similar in their ways too, so they hardly need to be differentiated. A moderate rebel commits the same atrocities as the more extreme neighbour of his and they work together too, so whats the difference? Of course in fairness government forces not any better, but I am merely comparing rebel factions. As for Erdogan, he has as much blood on his hands as anyone else on the list, just because he is sitting comfortably in Turkey, one shouldnt ignore his ambitions and recent events specifically. Hammer5000 (talk) 17:55, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Moderate Head Choppers dont exist SaintAviator lets talk 06:58, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi folks. So I sometimes view this article to get updated on things and I can swear I used to be able to read in the info box that among others Cuba and Angola were supplying weapons and expertise to the Syrian government, I think other nations too like Belarus. Now I know various sides and probably FSB/CIA/Whatevs operatives here have various missions and goals with removing that information. But this is not the primary question. The primary question is that even though I clearly remember seeing these flags in the info box just a few weeks ago, not even moving back to the start of January do I find them anymore.

So my question is two fold: Isn't it true that they were there? Why were they removed? Here are two articles from US press that suggest that Cuban officers are assisting the Government: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/10/14/cuban-military-forces-deployed-to-syria-to-operate-russian-tanks-say-sources.html http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/14/leopoldo-cintras-frias-cuban-military-chief-visits/

Second part: If this was indeed the case, and I remember finding out about it through the wiki here somewhere, how the hell have they not only been removed but removed from the history of the page?

Thank you PS; Please explain this to me I'm going crazy more over the second question than the first, though it would be prudent to add these flags and supporters back... 92.251.63.47 (talk) 13:17, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In any case, it is so insignificant that it hardly warrants mention. FunkMonk (talk) 21:31, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

162.221.125.161 (talk) 01:39, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Nope, there are several anti-gov FSA groups in the SDF, plus the YPG and the pro-opposition Sutoro fought pro-gov forces in Hasakah last year. Just recently Sootoro clashed with YPG in Qamishli. Editor abcdef (talk) 02:13, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Kurds are fighting for an autonomous, if not completely independent, state that the Syrian government has repeatedly refused to grant or recognize. So no, they're not on the same side, even if they have an uneasy coexistence in some areas. -Kudzu1 (talk) 02:47, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]