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I would like to suggest a new optional parameter, ethnicity. To show its usefulness, consider for example the case of Italian or German artists active before 1861 (Italian unification) or 1871 (German Unification): they cannot be defined as being Italian/German nationals, since Italy/Germany did not exist at that time. In those cases, at present we use the parameter "nationality", giving to it the meaning of ethnicity. With the new parameter we could either leave the nationality parameter empty or use it to describe the state where they were citizen/subject (for example, in the case of Titian, the Republic of Venice). In all the other cases (when ethnicity and nationality coincide), we can ignore the ethnicity and fill only the nationality field. Alex2006 (talk) 08:13, 25 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please could we add a DAAO record field? The daao_record field is a new URL field that points to the Design and Art Australia Online biography of the artist. The DAAO provides high quality, community moderated biographies of Australian practitioners.

There is an uncontroversial discussion on the WikiProject_Visual_arts page and (earlier) on the Template_talk page for Infobox_artist.

I have implemented the change in the sandbox and added a test case here (its a sub page of the normal test case as I didn't want Vincent to be deleted or attributed a DAAO record). Sandbox testcase here.

Thanks! Queen Victoria (talk) 02:54, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm... Not much of a discussion. If no one comments, I'll apply it in a few days.—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 23:47, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

•  Working — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 16:27, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay, so I've made some changes in the sandbox so this works more efficiently and gives a clearer result. Queen Victoria, do these changes look good to you and do what you want? In order to get this extra row to show, all that the editor needs to do is put in the name of the person from the URL (E.G. |daao_record=mike-par) and the template will do the rest. If the url is always the name of the person, and always uses hyphens to replace spaces, it is possible to adjust the template further to automatically add the link without the |daao_record= parameter (which would still be available for overrides) but instead take the |name= and convert it to lowercase and replace the spaces with hyphens if "most" of these artists have daao records. Please ping me with your answers to those questions and we'll develop more in the sandbox until we come up with some good code and then I'll apply it for you. Andy, do you have anything to add here? — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 16:52, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'd avoid doing anything so clever; consider William Morrison Wyllie aka William Wyllie. Also, we should be able to pull data from Wikidata. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:01, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • Well, those types of cases are why there would still need to be a |daao_record= parameter that would override the attempt to automatically detect. Simply for those edge cases. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 17:39, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like this is a bad addition to the template. Sites like DAAO are better used as References or External links in the article. This could easily get out of hand as we could add many, many other websites with artist pages to the infobox. Some things just aren't meant for the infobox, and external links just aren't (except for an official website). -- Netoholic @ 21:31, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Even though the recent TfD discussion resulted in a speedy keep, there are still some gains to be made from changing the artist template into a wrapper for Template:Infobox_person so as to preserve a consistent look among all biographies. I've made a version in the Template:Infobox artist/sandbox (permanent) which pass through the in-common parameters to Infobox_person, while keeping the artist-specific ones available by using the module function. It turns out that only 3 artist parameters don't have an equivalent in Infobox_person. Here you can view the Template:Infobox artist/testcases. Some parameter names and row labels change slightly, but I've preserved support for the old parameters. Here is a list of the changes:

• Removed - bgcolour. Title colors is a deprecated practice and a holdover from very, very ancient infobox design. There's currently no documentation as to what colors to even use for what artists, so it leads to inconsistent appearance out in the articles. Birth name label is hidden, now part of Born
• Changed labels - Movement is now Style, Works is now Notable work(s), Alma mater becomes unlinked, Training is now Education, Field is now Known for
• Changed parameters (all old ones still supported) - movement is now style, works is now notable_works, training is now education, field is now known_for
• Infobox_artist specific - Patron(s) is now between Elected and Memorial(s)

This arrangement should make it easy to add more Infobox_person parameters to Infobox_artist, and also expand the artist-specific fields, if needed. -- Netoholic @ 22:47, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Added Style with {{{style}}}

Updated to reflect change to infobox person that now supports Movement natively - new permanent link. Requesting the edit (WP:SILENCE). -- Netoholic @ 22:54, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Most at the TfD felt a merge would be inappropriate - that's not SILENCE. See Wikipedia:Edit_requests#General_considerations. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:14, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Though some artists are self-taught, many improve their skills through education (e.g. Pratt Institute, CalArts, etc...) I would like to propose a parameter for education for addition to this template. Thanks. Warrenchase (talk) 15:19, 20 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]