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:If that's the case, his page should point out that his age is unverified. Is there a template/category for disputed super-centenarians? -- [[User:Jevanyn|Jevanyn]] <sub>[[User talk:Jevanyn|talk]]</sub> 14:38, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
:If that's the case, his page should point out that his age is unverified. Is there a template/category for disputed super-centenarians? -- [[User:Jevanyn|Jevanyn]] <sub>[[User talk:Jevanyn|talk]]</sub> 14:38, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
::Self-answered: there is such a category, and there is someone maintaining the page, but the dispute was removed on the grounds of [[Wikipedia:SYNTH]] and [[Wikipedia:OR]] -- [[User:Jevanyn|Jevanyn]] <sub>[[User talk:Jevanyn|talk]]</sub>
::Self-answered: there is such a category, and there is someone maintaining the page, but the dispute was removed on the grounds of [[Wikipedia:SYNTH]] and [[Wikipedia:OR]] -- [[User:Jevanyn|Jevanyn]] <sub>[[User talk:Jevanyn|talk]]</sub>

Robert Young stated on the GRG page [http://www.grg.org/CalmentFraud.html here] that Benando Lapallo is at least ten years younger than he claims he is. Lapallo has claimed a birth year from 1901 to 1910, has gone by the name Bernando, fails to provide early life details to help verify his claim and he's promoting longevity products. [[User:CommanderLinx|CommanderLinx]] ([[User talk:CommanderLinx|talk]]) 21:33, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

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Talk:List of living supercentenarians/Archives

Alexander Imich

Alexander Imich is now listed as a supercentarian with a birth date of 4 Feb 1903. He is also A polish veteran of WW1. Their are four men listed as unverified WW1 Veterans who died between 2010-2012. I believe we should show this man the same consideration and re-create the list with him on it. At age 15 it is highly probable that he fought the Russians during WW1 as he claims defending Poland from the invader. In WW2 Germany drafted the Hitler Youth into regular army units in 1945 with some children as young as 12 fighting for the Fatherland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.253.155.86 (talk) 08:07, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Actually:
  1. The citation suggesting he has celebrated his 110th birthday is not very convincing, it is really a case of "Alexander Imich would be 110 now so let's wish him happy birthday because we haven't heard that he's died". So he is fortunate to even be included in the Other Reports list at this time.
  2. The consensus after MANY discussions is that he should not be considered a WWI veteran.
  3. "Highly probable" is not a good enough argument for inclusion in any article.
  4. What may or may not have happened in WWII is irrelevant to any argument about participation or not in WWI.
  5. Discussion of whether he should be considered a WWI veteran has nothing to do with this article.

DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 08:51, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Sante Dal Santo, Carlo Dozzi, Harry Futcher , And Douglas Terry were considered WW1 Veterans and listed as Unverified WW1 Veterans seperate but mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.253.155.86 (talk) 15:12, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They were not absolutely proven but highly probable and at their advanced age what benefit would they receive by lying? None that would matter . Many Polish veterans have no absolutely proven records because the city's that kept records were destroyed in both WW1 and WW2. I believe he is just as valid as the four previously mentioned and must be included just like they were or the four must be removed from any mention to be fair to all.

If not the list is hypocritical and Alexander Imich is being discriminated against for some reason

Am I missing something? What does participation in WWI have to do with this page? Canada Jack (talk) 17:01, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Because he is a supercentarian who happens to be the most likely last WW1 veteran alive. That is why. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.253.155.86 (talk) 20:15, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

??? This is a page of living Super-C's, not a list of people who are 110+ with an attendant list of their accomplishments, however valiant. Your critique here is misplaced. Canada Jack (talk) 20:48, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

With the official end of WW1 not until June 28,1919. He easily could of been fighting for Poland because on the date of the official end of the war he would have been 16 years and 4 months old. As Warsaw was almost taken every boy in Poland that could carry a gun would have been fighting off the invader. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.253.155.86 (talk) 05:29, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is that person alive?

Haji Qasim from Syria. Clamed age over 112. Is he still alive because there is no report him since 2011? Or has the Syrian civil war affected his hometown or village where he lived and he is escaped and is hiding somewhere with his family? 62.72.230.103 (talk) 11:11, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to this article: If he has not been listed as verified/pending by the GRG and there hasn't been a report since 2011, he would not be listed in this article since 'other reports' of longevity are removed from this list when it has been over a year since there has been a report that the person is still alive. — JJJ (say hello) 13:29, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Save to assume he has passed away if there hasn't been an update on him since 2011 and he hasn't been verified/pended by the GRG. 124.187.87.159 (talk) 06:30, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We cannot know assume that he is deceased merely because recent media coverage has been lacking. — JJJ (say hello) 15:23, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Naomi Conner

Naomi Conner was on the verified list. She has now been downgraded to the pending list. Was one of her 3 documents found to be questionable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.253.155.86 (talk) 02:57, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When was she on the verified list?DHanson317 (talk) 04:37, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On February 7, 2013 she was on the verified list. On February 8, 2013 she was moved back to the pending list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.253.155.86 (talk) 17:11, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Assuming this happened. This is Wikipedia, not the GRG. You'd be better off contacting someone from the GRG about this. 121.223.18.213 (talk) 07:57, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Now back on the verified list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.253.155.86 (talk) 03:03, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ten verified people left born 1899 or before

We are down to a milestone . Their are only 10 people left alive born 1899 or before verified.It is possible that one more on the pending list may be verified. The people alive in parts of three century's is just about over. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.253.155.86 (talk) 16:06, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And this improves this article how? DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 20:55, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's a very interesting point. No need for sarcasm. Czolgolz (talk) 21:01, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
At the top of this page it says "This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the List of living supercentenarians article." and "This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject." DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 21:35, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can tell Derby only does sarcasm. Williamb (talk) 14:53, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The 19th century ended Dec 31 1900, not Dec 31 1899, so there are currently 22 living people verified who have lived in 3 centuries. Canada Jack (talk) 16:23, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ruth Newman

Has anybody looked into Ruth Newman who was born in 9/23/1901, and is currently the oldest survivor of the San Francisco earthquake? I was just wondering because she is listed at [1]. Williamb (talk)

She is listed in the article. — JJJ (say hello) 21:24, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oldest Tunisian ever

Was Jeanne Hue oldest person ever who was born in Tunisia? Her case was partially verified and she should be on the oldest people by nation list. And who is currently living oldest Tunisian whose age has been verified or listed as pending? Does GRG know? 62.72.230.103 (talk) 14:02, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If GRG knew, she would be verified. — JJJ (say hello) 21:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jiroemon Kimura now age 116.

All the maximum possible ages for men must be updated to age 116. This is because Kimura just had his 116 verified birthday today proving age 116 is not only possible but now has occurred and verified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.253.155.86 (talk) 20:43, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to the upper limit of the 'other claims' section of 113? That is not the oldest possible age, but rather the longest an unverified person can remain in this article. — JJJ (say hello) 21:22, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Somewhere in one of the articles it says that there's never been a verified man of age 116 and it's unlikely there will be one. (I'm not sure why such a truly dumb thing was let stand, maybe because most everybody has become terrified by the article tyrants that rule here). I think that is what is being referred to. Williamb (talk) 05:26, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Do we know which article? — JJJ (say hello) 15:34, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See article Hryhoriy Nestor. HJKeats (talk) 15:41, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 DoneJJJ (say hello) 15:52, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that was the article I was referring to the one that said it could not happen. Now we have absolute proof at least one man lived to age 116. With the three sources required by the GRG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.253.155.86 (talk) 19:46, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

María Cruz Coreas

María Cruz Coreas from El Salvador is now 110. Has there been any new information about her age? 62.72.230.103 (talk) 05:59, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Vi Robbins update

The latest citation http://newslocal.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/viewer.aspx for Vi Robbins does NOT take the reader to the article the source is taken from. To find the actual article requires the reader to manually search for it (the title is "Little Nan still loves to help out others"), making the supplied citation useless. I suspect this violates a wiki guideline on citations but cannot find it. Does anyone know what the ruling on this should be? DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 00:16, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well DerbyCountyinNZ, do you know of a way to link there? There is a valid citation of her at the age of 111 so I don't see what is the problem.DHanson317 (talk) 00:19, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No I tried, someone with aspx knowledge may know how to do it but I don't. The problem is the citation is not valid if it does not link to a relevant source. The purpose of a citation is to allow the reader to check that the information in the article accurately reflects the source. This citation does not do that. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 00:34, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've tried a {{Help me}} to see if anyone knows a way around this peroblem. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 00:43, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Citation fixed! DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 02:07, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

James Sisnett

This man is no longer living. Please remove him from oldest living males. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.253.155.86 (talk) 05:00, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This article does not have a list of "oldest living males". Sisnett was removed from this article several hours ago. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 05:10, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bernando LaPallo

During the Yankees/Red Sox broadcast tonight they mentioned a Yankees Fan named Bernando LaPallo who was born on August 17, 1901 which would make him 111 if anyone out there can verify this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.19.20 (talk) 01:41, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He even has a Wikipedia Page right here- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernando_LaPallo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.19.20 (talk) 01:45, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

98% of the Brazilian age claims are phony. He was allegedly born in 1901 in Brazil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.253.155.86 (talk) 06:01, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If that's the case, his page should point out that his age is unverified. Is there a template/category for disputed super-centenarians? -- Jevanyn talk 14:38, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Self-answered: there is such a category, and there is someone maintaining the page, but the dispute was removed on the grounds of Wikipedia:SYNTH and Wikipedia:OR -- Jevanyn talk

Robert Young stated on the GRG page here that Benando Lapallo is at least ten years younger than he claims he is. Lapallo has claimed a birth year from 1901 to 1910, has gone by the name Bernando, fails to provide early life details to help verify his claim and he's promoting longevity products. CommanderLinx (talk) 21:33, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]