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A while back, Blueboar, you embarked on an editing campaign to change the NRIS references in articles linked from this list articles, and changed 20 or so before agreeing to stop. That was covered in Talk:List of Masonic buildings/Archive 6#NRIS references in Masonic buildings articles. Would you please now go and fix those? --doncram 12:28, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The ones needing fixing now include at least the following ones, from Blueboars contribution history at that time:

# 14:23, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Mount Moriah Masonic Lodge No. 18 ‎ (cite same source, but without link to long dead website)
# 14:23, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Knob School-Masonic Lodge ‎ (same source, but without the link to a dead website)
# 14:22, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Hampton Masonic Lodge Building ‎ (same source, but without the link to a dead website)
# 14:21, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Fort Smith Masonic Temple ‎ (same source, but without the link to a dead website)
# 14:20, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Russellville Masonic Temple ‎ (same source, but without the dead link)
# 14:19, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Masonic Temple (Pine Bluff, Arkansas) ‎ (changed citation - same source but without the dead link)
# 14:18, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Masonic Temple (El Dorado, Arkansas) ‎ (Changed citation - cite database as if in hard copy, since linked website is dead)
# 14:17, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Lee's Chapel Church and Masonic Hall ‎ (Changed citation - cited as if database is hard copy since linked website is dead)
# 14:16, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Chester Masonic Lodge and Community Building ‎ (Changed citation - cite database as if in hard copy since linked website is dead)
# 14:15, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Yell Masonic Lodge Hall ‎ (Changed citation - cited database as if in hard copy since linked website is dead)
# 14:13, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Bradford City Hall-Byers Masonic Lodge ‎ (Changed citation - cited as if database were in hard copy since linked website is dead)
# 14:12, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Farmers and Merchants Bank-Masonic Lodge ‎ (Change to citation... cited as if in hard copy since linked website is dead)
# 14:11, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Masonic Temple (Yuma, Arizona) ‎ (Changed citation - linked website is dead, but database itself is still valid)
# 14:09, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Masonic Hall (Wickenburg, Arizona) ‎ (Changed citation... cited as if in hard copy since linked website is dead)
# 14:07, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Polly Rosenbaum Building ‎ (Change citation... cited as if hard copy database since link is dead)
# 14:06, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Joseph T. Smitherman Historic Building ‎ (Change citation... cited as if hard copy since link is dead)
# 14:04, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Scottish Rite Temple (Mobile, Alabama) ‎ (Change citation as if hard copy... since linked website is dead)
# 14:03, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Crane Hill Masonic Lodge ‎ (cite in hard copy since link is dead)
# 14:02, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) West End Masonic Temple ‎ (cite in hard copy since link is down)
# 14:01, 3 November 2010 (diff | hist) Masonic Temple (Fairbanks, Alaska) ‎ (Link in hard copy, since website is down)

Would you please fix all of these to the standard NRIS reference which has since been rolled out? --doncram 12:37, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What is the new standard NRIS reference? (I have lost track) Blueboar (talk) 12:49, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's the one that appears in all other NRHP-listed places linked in this, including Cedar Rapids Scottish Rite Temple where you have been editing recently. The bot changed the reference in all pre-existing articles except the ones you had changed to non-standard form. New articles with infobox from the Elkman system come in with the reference. Thanks. --doncram 13:00, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To spell it out more clearly for Blueboar, the new standard NRIS reference is what resulted from discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Archive 48#Please change the standard citation to omit the link. To fix the items you changed, you should go to the article, figure out which version of NRIS was in fact the source that had been used (i.e. look at the NRIS reference date in the version before you changed the article), and replace what you put in by:

1. <ref name=nris>{{NRISref|2009a}}</ref> if date=2009-03-13 appeared in what u replaced, or
2. <ref name=nris>{{NRISref|2008a}}</ref> if date=2008-04-15 appeared in what u replaced, or
3. <ref name=nris>{{NRISref|2008b}}</ref> if date=2008-04-24 appeared in what u replaced, or
4. <ref name=nris>{{NRISref|2007b}}</ref> if date=2008-06-30 appeared in what u replaced, or
5. check for other version numbers at template:NRISref

This would restore a valid reference describing the source that was actually used in developing the article. For the older dates, an alternative would be for you to update the NRHP information using the March 2009 NRIS data, and show that.

The bot run did all such replacements for all 25,000 or so other NRIS references in wikipedia already. --doncram 15:10, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK... I will give it a shot. I'm busy on other things right at the moment, so please be patient. Blueboar (talk) 15:16, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blueboar, could you please give an update about this? This is a ping to keep this item from being deleted. --doncram 20:24, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

sorry it took me so long to get to this... it was not a priority. In any case, done. Blueboar (talk) 12:44, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The list-article is obviously long now and I expect to split it soon. Probably to just split off List of Masonic buildings in the United States. The huge amount of edit history in developing the United States entries would be left behind in the current list-article, but i see no remedy for that. I'm not expecting there's any other alternative, but would consider any others' comments. --doncram 12:31, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would not object to a split, but I do have a concern... if we split off the US Buildings, does it leaves us with an overly short list where it comes to the non-US buildings. Just to think out loud... Perhaps a split to Masonic buildings listed on the NRHP... which would leave the few non-NRHP American buildings with the international ones? Blueboar (talk) 13:05, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Doncram, if the majority of the edit history is US buildings, you could just rename this to US and split off the other content to a new List of Masonic buildings article, giving the current diff from this article for attribution purposes in the edit summary.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:57, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good point that the U.S. list is now a large majority of the article, and splitting by U.S. vs. non-U.S. will leave the U.S. chunk still very large. But at least it is developed out, and won't grow too much more, too fast. The non-U.S. portion could grow by expanding out into tables with pics and descriptions and so on, as Blueboar was developing in draft form. So splitting U.S. vs. non-U.S. does make some progress at least.

Thanks, that's a good suggestion about how to do the split, with attribution in the edit summary. Another consideration, come to think of it, is that there are dozens of wp:ANI and wp:3RRnb and other discussions that link to here or to archives of this Talk page, and avoiding breaking all of those links is desirable. I don't mind leaving all that behind, in my going on to continue to develop a newly splitoff article of the U.S. list. --doncram 14:15, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, good point. Thanks. Leaving it here would be better, then. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:22, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So the suggestion is now to split off the non-US buildings? What would we call that article? Blueboar (talk) 14:47, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That was my suggestion, but I withdrew it. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:49, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah... OK... then what is the suggestion?

I do have to at least make an alternative suggestion for people to think about ... We could bring the list back to a more manageable size if we narrowed our definition of what constitutes a "Masonic building"... limiting it to those buildings that were/are purpose built to house Masonic bodies, as opposed to those that are/were built as something else and are now merely occupied by the Masons. (I am not trying to re-open old debates here... just making the suggestion). Blueboar (talk) 15:42, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

An editor added an entry for the Israeli Supreme Court building in this edit, which i reverted for now. It included a link to a Wikipedia article on the supreme court building that does not support a Masonic association at all, and no outside reliable source. Even if there is some association which can be established, the building should not be included in this list unless it is quite a significant association. The building was built to be the supreme court building, apparently. --doncram 15:34, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

300 Albert St East Melbourne Vic Australia is the UGLV landmark building. GL does not feature it in their web site but they do run another http://dallasbrookscentre.com.au/ http://www.walkingmelbourne.com/building785_dallas-brooks-hall.html migth also be of interest.

Looks like you are going for major buidlings - but this one is well known in the sate http://www.lodgedevotion.net/devotionnews/education-editorial-articles/creswick-havilah-lodge-no-26-its-building-201105 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.228.214.45 (talk) 02:36, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Opps ! I seem to have broken the page :(

Better do more study on how to edit entries . .sorry... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.228.214.45 (talk) 06:34, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I can add a lot to this article, but the use of the word "Notable" slows me.. as it is a relative term.