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I have changed the red-white flag from infobox to red-white-blue tricolor. Red and white flag was official only for 15 years, and since this article refers to much longer period, in which the tricolor flag was in official use (from 1800 onwards, except for this 15 years), this flag should be in infobox as Flag of the Kingdom. [[User:Ro0103|Ro0103]] ([[User talk:Ro0103|talk]]) 13:13, 21 April 2010 (UTC) |
I have changed the red-white flag from infobox to red-white-blue tricolor. Red and white flag was official only for 15 years, and since this article refers to much longer period, in which the tricolor flag was in official use (from 1800 onwards, except for this 15 years), this flag should be in infobox as Flag of the Kingdom. [[User:Ro0103|Ro0103]] ([[User talk:Ro0103|talk]]) 13:13, 21 April 2010 (UTC) |
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:The last flag should be in the infobox, not the one that was most used. --<font face="Eras Bold ITC">[[User:DIREKTOR|<font color="DimGray">DIREKTOR</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<font color="Gray">TALK</font>]])</sup></font> 13:17, 21 April 2010 (UTC) |
:The last flag should be in the infobox, not the one that was most used. --<font face="Eras Bold ITC">[[User:DIREKTOR|<font color="DimGray">DIREKTOR</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DIREKTOR|<font color="Gray">TALK</font>]])</sup></font> 13:17, 21 April 2010 (UTC) |
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::[http://flagspot.net/flags/hr-h848.html According to Heimer] the tricolour was brought back c. 1860, thus making it the last flag.--[[User:Thewanderer|Thewanderer]] ([[User talk:Thewanderer|talk]]) 17:38, 21 April 2010 (UTC) |
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Napoleon
Why isn't Napoleon mentioned here at all? I was going to add something about Lujzijana, but to no avail. Admiral Norton (talk) 15:12, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Map
It would be nice if we had a detailed map of the Kingdom of Croatia around the 1850s... I'll se what I can do. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 13:28, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
- Done :) --DIREKTOR (TALK) 10:03, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Crazy colors
The map in the infobox should ideally be a political map with the Kingdom of Croatia highlighted.
- The military frontier was NOT, repeat: NOT a part of the Kingdom of Croatia. To highlight it in any way that hints to such a status is unnecessarily confusing and deliberately misleading. That would be a typical nationalist reduction in quality. It should be the same color (though probably a slightly different shade) as the rest of the Austrian Empire.
- Ditto for the Kingdom of Dalmatia. It should be slightly distinct so the reader knows where it is, but to highlight it in a way so as to suggest its a part of the Kingdom of Croatia is unnecessarily confusing and deliberately misleading. It should be the same color (though probably a slightly different shade) as the rest of the Austrian Empire.
In short, this map of mine is more than satisfactory, do not alter it to somehow to highlight lands that were NOT a part of the Kingdom of Croatia - as being part of the Kingdom of Croatia. For once, lets remove fantasies from Croatian history. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 22:58, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
How many times were the Habsburgs Croatia's rulers?
"The Kingdom was a part of the Lands of the Crown of St. Stephen, but was subject to direct Imperial Austrian rule for significant periods of time, including its final years. Its capital was Zagreb."
King Habsburg had the last word. King imposed its will several times. King tried to diminuate or ignore the importance of Kingdoms that conditionally accepted the Habsburgs as the monarchs. Kingdom of Croatia (check the full title!) conditionally accepted Habsburgs. "Direct rule" - better word is needed.
So, although King tried to diminuate, Sabor (Parliament) of Kingdom of Croatia was resilient. It resiliently defended its rights, since Croatian Parliament held to the (in which they accepted Habsburg) as to the contract and never gave up its rights. Kubura (talk) 01:14, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Flag
I have changed the red-white flag from infobox to red-white-blue tricolor. Red and white flag was official only for 15 years, and since this article refers to much longer period, in which the tricolor flag was in official use (from 1800 onwards, except for this 15 years), this flag should be in infobox as Flag of the Kingdom. Ro0103 (talk) 13:13, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
- The last flag should be in the infobox, not the one that was most used. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 13:17, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
- According to Heimer the tricolour was brought back c. 1860, thus making it the last flag.--Thewanderer (talk) 17:38, 21 April 2010 (UTC)