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:*[http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B%22Persian+Empire%22 "Persian Empire"] 6,630 hits. There are explicit cases: |
:*[http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B%22Persian+Empire%22 "Persian Empire"] 6,630 hits. There are explicit cases: |
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:*617+126 for explicit [http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B%22Achaemenid+Persian+Empire%22 "Achaemenid Persian Empire"] or [http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B%22Achaemenian+Persian+Empire%22 "Achaemenian Persian Empire"] |
:*617+126 for explicit [http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B%22Achaemenid+Persian+Empire%22 "Achaemenid Persian Empire"] or [http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B%22Achaemenian+Persian+Empire%22 "Achaemenian Persian Empire"] |
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:*29+1 for [http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B%22Parthian+Persian+Empire%22 "Parthian Persian Empire"] (includes hits for compounded ''Parthian-Persian Empire'') or [http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B% |
:*29+1 for [http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B%22Parthian+Persian+Empire%22 "Parthian Persian Empire"] (includes hits for compounded ''Parthian-Persian Empire'') or [http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B%22Arsacid+Persian+Empire%22 "Arsacid Persian Empire"] |
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:*298+380+80+115 for [http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B%22Sassanian+Persian+Empire%22&btnG=Search+Books "Sassanian Persian Empire"] or [http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B%22Sassanid+Persian+Empire%22&btnG=Search+Books "Sassanid Persian Empire"] or [http://books.google.com/books?as_q=&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=Sasanid+Persian+Empire&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_brr=0&as_pt=ALLTYPES&lr=&as_vt=&as_auth=&as_pub=&as_sub=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_isbn=&as_issn= "Sasanid Persian Empire"] or [http://books.google.com/books?as_q=&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=Sasanian+Persian+Empire&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_brr=0&as_pt=ALLTYPES&lr=&as_vt=&as_auth=&as_pub=&as_sub=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_isbn=&as_issn= "Sasanian Persian Empire"] |
:*298+380+80+115 for [http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B%22Sassanian+Persian+Empire%22&btnG=Search+Books "Sassanian Persian Empire"] or [http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B%22Sassanid+Persian+Empire%22&btnG=Search+Books "Sassanid Persian Empire"] or [http://books.google.com/books?as_q=&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=Sasanid+Persian+Empire&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_brr=0&as_pt=ALLTYPES&lr=&as_vt=&as_auth=&as_pub=&as_sub=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_isbn=&as_issn= "Sasanid Persian Empire"] or [http://books.google.com/books?as_q=&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=Sasanian+Persian+Empire&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_brr=0&as_pt=ALLTYPES&lr=&as_vt=&as_auth=&as_pub=&as_sub=&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_isbn=&as_issn= "Sasanian Persian Empire"] |
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:*36 for [http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B%22Mongol+Persian+Empire%22&btnG=Search+Books "Mongol Persian Empire] |
:*36 for [http://books.google.com/books?q=%2B%22Mongol+Persian+Empire%22&btnG=Search+Books "Mongol Persian Empire] |
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Revision as of 22:54, 25 September 2009
polling google books,
- "Persian Empire" 5,466 hits. Most of these relate to the Achaemenid period, but there are exceptions:
- (616 for explicit "Achaemenid Persian Empire")
- 28 for "Parthian Persian Empire" (includes hits for compounded Parthian-Persian Empire)
- 296+374 for "Sassanian" or "Sassanid Persian Empire"
- 36 for "Mongol Persian Empire
- 1 for "Timurid Persian Empire"
- 27+5 for "Turko-" or Turco-Persian Empire"
- 49 for "Safavid Persian Empire"
now of course this blind polling includes all sort of abysmal literature, but it can be taken to show that "post-Sassanid historic Iran more generally" is an existing, albeit marginal of the order of a few percent, application of the term "Persian Empire" in "literature" in the most general sense. Enough to link history of Iran on this disambiguation page, but hardly enough to argue that "Persian Empire" refers to historic Iran generally in any significant, let alone primary, sense. --dab (𒁳) 14:17, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
- I would like to correct this a bit.
- "Persian Empire" 6,630 hits. There are explicit cases:
- 617+126 for explicit "Achaemenid Persian Empire" or "Achaemenian Persian Empire"
- 29+1 for "Parthian Persian Empire" (includes hits for compounded Parthian-Persian Empire) or "Arsacid Persian Empire"
- 298+380+80+115 for "Sassanian Persian Empire" or "Sassanid Persian Empire" or "Sasanid Persian Empire" or "Sasanian Persian Empire"
- 36 for "Mongol Persian Empire
- 1 for "Timurid Persian Empire"
- 27+5 for "Turko-" or Turco-Persian Empire"
- 51 for "Safavid Persian Empire"
- You have missed even more: "Persian Sasanian empire" (90), "Persian Sassanian empire" (196), "Persian Sassanid empire" (314) and "Persian Sasanid empire" (65) and the same for other entries. These particular combination shows "Persian empire" is indeed itself a term quite independent from Achaemenids. So we can see from this gogle book results that
- "Persian empire" as reference to Achaemenid empire has 617+126=743 blind google books hits,
- "Persian empire" as reference to Sassanid empire has 298+380+80+115=873 blind google books hits,
- So there is real case for "Persian empire is not Achaemenid empire". Xashaiar (talk) 03:12, 25 September 2009 (UTC)