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I should probably have left a message about here when I created it, but better late than never, I hope.

Template:npg name is a simple way of making a link to the NPG's collection of portraits of an individual. The intention is that like {{imdb name}}, it will be handy in the "see also" section of biographical articles.

It works in a similar way to {{imdb name}}: find the NPG's ID for an individual, and that's all you need.

For example:

• {{npg name|id=01653|name=Charles James Fox}}

produces

• Portraits of Charles James Fox at the National Portrait Gallery, London

I have set it to refer to National Portrait Gallery (London), simply because that's the current article name. If it is changed, then the template should be edited to reflect that.

--BrownHairedGirl ^{(talk) • (contribs)} 09:36, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removed from main page to here per WP:TRIV (I would personally prefer not to have a trivia section, particularly where the information adds nothing whatsoever of encyclopaedic value to the article, but that's obviously up for discussion): "Posing for artist Stuart Pearson Wright at age 14 while on a break from filming Harry Potter, at age 16, Radcliffe became the youngest non-royal ever to have an individual portrait in England's National Portrait Gallery. On 13 April 2006, his portrait was unveiled as part of a new exhibition opening at London's Royal National Theatre, then moved to the National Portrait Gallery where it currently resides." Badgerpatrol 14:32, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed this info Misstinkafairy (talk) 17:18, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

... anyone reading this may wish to familiarise themselves with the legal action mentioned in the following section. Paulbrock (talk) 16:22, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See: Legal threat against Wikipedia User --Eingangskontrolle (talk) 09:58, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Despite the voluminous discussion on this page I see Mais oui! has changed the name again. As we all know he pays no attention to discussion, and as the disambiguator London is less fragrantly bad than England, this time I'll let itstand. 'Commenest name' as a rationale doesn't really hold water (see discussion above, if you can be bothered), but if it's supposed to mean that the NPG's London base has a higher profile than Bodelwyddan Castle et al, then fair enough. It's clear that MO! wants to emphasise the Englishness of the NPG so as to rationalise its relation to the Scottish National Portrait Gallery. So I've added a sentence to the intro stressing the messiness of their non-relation.

Of course, the NPG is actually meant to vindicate the construct of British history, which always means the history of England first and, only when they have been subsumed into it, those of Wales, Scotland and Ireland (still in the Union in the 19th century, all of it). So in that sense it is a very English gallery, but one that flies the Union Flag, not the St George's cross. The English were quite unselfconscious about their equation of 'England' with 'Britain' until recently; the need to define England as distinct from the imperial project has only really arisen with the devolution of Scotland and Wales. Understandably, they're having problems with it. Maybe London is the perfect disambiguator after all, since no-one on Talk:London can agree as to whether it's the capital of the UK or of England. Ham 18:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

seeing as there is another (albeit prefaced with Scottish) National Portrait Gallery in the UK, it can not be disambiguated with 'United Kingdom'. that's the only reason i see for the move. ninety:one 19:15, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It should at least have a comma & not brackets, per the usual convention of the NG etc, and to avoid references going through a redirect. Unless anyone objects I will move it there after a while. Johnbod (talk) 19:17, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

no! brackets is the way, we recently moved National Gallery (London) from a comma ninety:one 19:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As a footnote to this debate, it has to be said that brackets are handier than commas for formatting reasons. It's quicker to type [[National Gallery (London)|]] than [[National Gallery, London|National Gallery]]. I exaggerated the problem with brackets above; ease of formatting needs to be considered as well. Ham 01:00, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary, one often wants National Gallery, London in the text, which of course works via redirect, but never National Gallery (London), which is just wrong, imo, unless in a list using that convention. The move there in 2008 was undiscussed and should be reversed. Johnbod (talk) 17:58, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The recent dispute with Wikipedia is completely unimportant in the gallery's 153 year history. I removed the section from the article and put it below:

On 10 July 2009, the National Portrait Gallery started legal proceedings for breach of copyright against Wikipedia editor David Coetzee. The dispute centres on whether digital photographs of public domain artworks are protected by copyright. The National Portrait Gallery made low-resolution images of public domain original portraits available to all, but only allowed users to see a section of each image of their choice in high resolution at any time. Coetzee circumvented this software and downloaded thousands of high-resolution reproductions of images from the NPG website, and placed them in an archive of free-to-use images on Wikimedia Commons. The NPG claim that this will deprive them of significant revenue and that these images are part of a £1million project to digitise the gallery's collection.^{[1][2][3][4][5]}

--Apoc2400 (talk) 22:04, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Now maybe, but the mainstream news are starting to pick up on this now. It may yet develop. ninety:one 22:17, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added an external link to the Wikinews story, should be enough. -- œ^™ 02:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The story is a headline on BBC Radio 4 news. Wikipedia can't just sweep something embarrassing under the carpet. Nunquam Dormio (talk) 06:23, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]