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:There's no good phone and mobile accessibility in Xinjiang,according my friends.--[[User:Ksyrie|Ksyrie]]([[User_talk:Ksyrie|Talkie talkie]]) 11:31, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:There's no good phone and mobile accessibility in Xinjiang,according my friends.--[[User:Ksyrie|Ksyrie]]([[User_talk:Ksyrie|Talkie talkie]]) 11:31, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== Not terrorism ==

[[User:Ksyrie]] has been trying to add the article to a bunch of categories about terrorism, which I've reverted. This seems to be a misunderstanding about what terrorism is, because there is simply no evidence that this riots are terrorism. [[Terrorism]] is a planned action done for a specific reason; riots are usually unplanned things that start spontaneously with a large group of people. Just because things were bombed doesn't automatically make this terrorism. <b class="Unicode">[[User:Rjanag|r<font color="#8B0000">ʨ</font>anaɢ]]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>[[User talk:Rjanag|talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Rjanag|contribs]]</sub></small> 11:47, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

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Developing story

Would like to see someone Twitter the story as a live feed on-location. Usually when something like this happens in China media wars ensue. Colipon+(T) 03:53, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

@komoroka has been doing a bit of that, but reports are that internet, mobile phones, and SMS services are restricted in Xinjiang, Twitter now blocked in PRC, at least he hasn't tweeted in the last 14 hours FOARP (talk) 09:17, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


The picture used as a sample for this riot is a fake, this picture was taken at a riot in Shishou about ten days ago and posted by Southern Metropolis Weekly. As you can see here [1] and here [http://www.dwnews.com/gb/MainNews/Forums/BackStage/2009_6_28_3_3_28_918.html ] where the picture is properly quoted. Please find a photograph that is of the actual event. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.212.73.76 (talk) 07:07, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The riots took place yesterday and have subsided. Now the security forces have the city under control. Since they mainly used tear gas and other non-lethal weapons, I believe this story will probably get buried in the next news cycle. I bet you 100 bucks the western media is desperately trying to unearth evidence that the commies "brutally" cracked down on the rioters, but so far they haven't, given a sizeable community of westerners living in the city. It says something, doesn't it? Even though the western media has tried to sort of "justify" the riots by describing how the Uyghurs have been oppressed, anyone who can read and watch news reports sees the extent of the killings and violence against Han civilians, which effectively counters the claims made by the World Uyghur Congress that it was nothing but "peaceful protests." If there's nothing the western media can use to attack the commies, they will move on to other stories. So I don't think media wars will ensue. --wooddoo ]] [[User_talk:Wooddoo-eng|Eppur si muove (talk) 09:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There's no good phone and mobile accessibility in Xinjiang,according my friends.--Ksyrie(Talkie talkie) 11:31, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not terrorism

User:Ksyrie has been trying to add the article to a bunch of categories about terrorism, which I've reverted. This seems to be a misunderstanding about what terrorism is, because there is simply no evidence that this riots are terrorism. Terrorism is a planned action done for a specific reason; riots are usually unplanned things that start spontaneously with a large group of people. Just because things were bombed doesn't automatically make this terrorism. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 11:47, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]