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		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Lucy-marie, Your tireless contributions, removal of vandalism and keeping a NPOV at all times improve the sense of community and enhance the helpfulness of wikipedia. I hereby grant you this barnstar in recognition of your dedication and hard work Fethroesforia 03:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

		The Resilient Barnstar
		I know that in a lot of these disputes I've disagreed with you, but no good faith contributor should have to take the sheer volume of abuse you get. Things that normally would barely get noticed from anyone else get blown into major disputes when people see your name involved — and that's not how things ought to work around here. — iridescent 11:40, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Member state[1]	Date	Result[2]	Deposition with Italian Government[3]
Lithuania	11 November 2004	Yes. Seimas: 84 to 4 in favour, 3 abstentions.[4]	17 December 2004
Hungary		Yes. Országgyűlés: 323 to 12 in favour, 8 abstention.[5]	30 December 2004
Slovenia		Yes. Državni zbor: 79 to 4 in favour, 0 abstentions.[6]	9 May 2005
Italy		Yes. Camera dei Deputati: 436 to 28 in favour, 5 abstentions.[7] Yes. Senato della Repubblica: abstentions.[8]
Spain	28 April 2005 18 May 2005	Yes. Consultative referendum: 76.73% to 17.24% in favour, 6.03% blanks, 42.32% participation.[9][10] Yes. Congreso de los Diputados: 311 to 19 in favour, 0 abstentions.[11] Yes. Senado: 225 to 6 in favour, 1 abstention.[12]	15 June 2005
Austria	11 May 2005 25 May 2005	Yes. Nationalrat: Approved by show of hands with 1 against.[13] Yes. Bundesrat: Approved by show of hands with three against.[14]	17 June, 2005
Greece	19 April 2005	Yes. Βουλή των Ελλήνων: 268 to 17 in favour, 15 abstentions.[15]	28 July, 2005
Malta	6 July 2005	Yes. Il-Kamra: Agreed without a division.[16]	2 August, 2005
Cyprus	30 June 2005	Yes. Βουλή των Αντιπροσώπων: 30 to 19 in favour, one abstention.[17]	6 October, 2005
Latvia	2 June 2005	Yes. Saeima: 71 to 5 in favour, six abstentions.[18]	3 January, 2006
Luxembourg	10 July 2005 25 October 2005	Yes. Consultative referendum: 56.52% to 43.48% in favour, 87.77% participation.[19][20] Yes. Châmber: 57 to 1 in favour, no abstentions.[21]	30 January, 2006
Belgium	28 April 2005 19 May 2005 17 June 2005 20 June 2005 29 June 2005 19 July 2005 8 February 2006	Yes. Senaat/Sénat: 54 to 9 in favour, one abstention.[22] Yes. Kamer/Chambre: 118 to 18 in favour, one abstention.[23] Yes. Parlement Bruxellois/Brussels Hoofdstedelijk Parlement: 70 to 10 in favour, 0 abstentions.[24] Yes. Parlament der Deutschsprachigen Gemeinschaft: 21 to 2 in favour, no abstentions.[25] Yes. Parlement wallon: 55 to 2 in favour, 0 abstention.[26] Yes. Parlement de la Communauté française: 79 to 0 in favour, no abstentions.[27] Yes. Vlaams Parlement: 84 to 29 in favour, one abstention.[28]	13 June, 2006
Estonia	9 May 2006	Yes. Riigikogu: 73 to 1 in favour, no abstentions.[29]	26 September, 2006
Bulgaria	1 January, 2007	Yes. Due to the provisions of Treaty of Accession 2005	Not required
Romania	1 January, 2007	Yes. Due to the provisions of Treaty of Accession 2005	Not required
Slovakia	11 May, 2005	Yes. Národná rada: 116 to 27 in favour, four abstentions.[30]	Pending. President of the republic has not yet signed the law.
Germany	12 May 2005 27 May 2005	Yes. Bundestag: 569 to 23 in favour, two abstentions.[31] Yes. Bundesrat: 66 to 0 in favour, three abstentions.[32]	Pending. President of the republic has not yet signed the law (due to pending decisions of the Constitutional Court).[33]
Finland incl. Åland[34]	5 December 2006 Cancelled	Yes. Eduskunta/Riksdag: 125 to 39 in favour, four abstentions.[35] Lagting[36]	Pending
France	29 May 2005 Cancelled Cancelled	No. Referendum: 54.68% to 45.32% against, 69.34% participation.[37][38] Assemblée Nationale: Sénat:
Netherlands	1 June 2005 Cancelled Cancelled	No. Consultative referendum: 61.54% to 38.46% against, 63.30% participation.[39][40] Tweede Kamer: Eerste Kamer:
Czech Republic	Cancelled Cancelled Cancelled	Referendum: Senát: Poslanecká sněmovna:
Denmark	Cancelled Cancelled	Referendum: Folketing:
Ireland	Cancelled Cancelled Cancelled	Referendum: Dáil Éireann: Seanad Éireann:
Poland	Cancelled Cancelled Cancelled	Referendum: Sejm: Senat:
Portugal	Cancelled Cancelled	Referendum: Assembleia da Republica:
Sweden	Cancelled	Riksdag:
United Kingdom	Cancelled Cancelled Cancelled	Referendum: House of Commons: House of Lords:

Signatory	Final vote date	Chamber			AB	Deposition[41]	Ref.
Austria	9 April 2008	National Council	151	27	0		[42]
	24 April 2008	Federal Council	58	4	0		[43]
Belgium	6 March 2008	Senate	48	8	1		[44][45]
	10 April 2008	Chamber of Representatives	116	18	7		[46]
	Mid-July 2008	Brussels Regional Parliament					[45]
	Mid-July 2008	Flemish Parliament					[45]
	Mid-July 2008	Walloon Parliament					[45]
	Mid-July 2008	French Community Parliament					[45]
	Mid-July 2008	German-speaking Community Parliament					[45]
Bulgaria	21 March 2008	National Assembly	195	15	30	28 April 2008	[47] [48]
Cyprus	Summer 2008	House of Representatives
Czech Republic	TBD	Chamber of Deputies				! [49]
	TBD	Senate
Denmark	24 April 2008	Diet	90	25	0		[50]
Estonia	May 2008	Diet					[51]
Finland incl. Åland Islands	Autumn 2008	Parliament					[52]
	TBD	Åland Parliament					[53]
France [54]	7 February 2008	National Assembly	336	52	22	14 February 2008	[55]
	7 February 2008	Senate	265	42	13		[56]
Germany	24 April 2008	Federal Diet	515	58	1		[57] [58]
	23 May 2008	Federal Council					[59]
Greece	Summer 2008	Assembly of the Greeks
Hungary	20 December 2004	National Assembly	323	12	8	6 February 2008	[60]
Ireland	12 June 2008	Referendum					[61]
	TBD	House of Representatives
	TBD	Senate
Italy	25 January 2005	Chamber of Deputies	436	28	5
	25 May 2005	Senate of the Republic	217	16	0
Latvia	8 May 2008	Diet	70	3	1		[62]
Lithuania	11 November 2004	Diet	84	4	3		[63]
Luxembourg	29 May 2008	Chamber of Deputies					[64]
Malta	29 January 2008	House of Representatives	65	0	0	6 February 2008	[65]
Netherlands	June 2008	Second Chamber					[66]
	Autumn 2008	First Chamber
Poland	1 April 2008	House of Representatives	384	56	12		[67]
	2 April 2008	Senate	74	17	6
Portugal	23 April2008	Assembly of the Republic	208	21	0		[68]
Romania	4 February 2008	Parliament	387	1	1		[69] [70]
Slovakia	10 April 2008	National Council	103	5	1		[71] [72]
Slovenia	1 February 2005	National Assembly	79	4	0	24 April 2008	[73]
Spain	20 February 2005	Consultative referendum	76.73%	17.24%	57.68%
	28 April 2005	Congress of Deputies	311	19	0
	18 May 2005	Senate	225	6	1
Sweden	November 2008	Diet
United Kingdom incl. Gibraltar	No Date	House of Commons
	No Date	House of Lords
	TBD	Gibraltar Parliament					[74]
European Union	12 January 2005	European Parliament	500	137	36	N/A	[75] [76]

Just to see who watches this page. I spose we're all curious as to who's watching our page (therefor having no real life at all). Well, you know how this works, If you watch this page, please, (~~~~) .--Lucy-marie (talk) 21:36, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1. Occasionally – iridescent 21:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lucy-Marie, please accept a nice refreshing glass of ice water as my way of going someway towards an apology for anything I may have said or done over in the past which has upset you. I'm certain we're both editing with the best interests of the Wikipedia at heart and neither of us is infallible. I look forward to working in harmony with you in the future. All the best, The Rambling Man (talk) 16:39, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to be difficult but this reversion seems odd (especially with no edit summary) - Wikipedia's own article on Greathead seems to back this up, perhaps we need to remove the information from there too? I'm no expert in this area but I just wanted to understand why you removed this info. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:57, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It adds little to the article and is not backed up with a source.--Lucy-marie (talk) 20:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, the fact it adds something, albeit little, is perhaps useful, and then you could just source it yourself or add a {{fact}} template and revisit in a few days to delete then. Either way, an edit summary would help enormously. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:17, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

L-m, just in case you haven't seen the conversation on my talk page – I'm sort of on your side on this one in that it was unsourced, but you need to explain why you're removing things, expecially since the IP who added it was probably a new editor who doesn't know how things work yet. – iridescent 21:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's an irrelevant piece of trivia. The police used all manner of descriptive terms to try to help find the girls, height was just one (and your link is approx anyway "about 4ft 6in"). You could also add hair colour if you wanted to, but it's equally trivial. Just because the person infobox supports the parameter, it doesn't mean it should be used when it's irrelevant. If you want to discuss how the police issued descriptions, put it in the main body. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:12, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds fine but an easy solution would be to add more information in the main part of the article. For instance, you could have this in the Police investigation section: "The Police released photographs of the two girls in Manchester United replica shirts along with a physical description of each of them which described them as " white, about 4ft 6in tall and slim"."^[77] and since it's not in the infobox, the reference sits quite nicely with it too. What do you think of that for a compromise? The Rambling Man (talk) 11:23, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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It will take me a few days, but I will take a look at the article. It may be better to ask for a Third Opinion or a Request for Comment as means of dispute resolution. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]