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Again, welcome! It's great to have you. Happy editing! -Aabha (talk) 16:28, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Just out of interest what makes you think that Le Tallec is a midfielder? When he played for Sunderland or France U21s he played upfront as far as I'm aware. The only reason he's not really played as a striker for Liverpool is more because of competition than his natural position. He's a Bergkamp-type player in my eyes. Bergkamp isn't a midfielder. aLii 00:07, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think he's more withdrawn than Bergkamp, a bit like Jari Litmanen who is also often considered a midfielder. I think it's debatable whether he's a midfielder or a forward - and I guess I am going on his appearances for Liverpool - but I think the term 'striker' is a misnomer, he's far from an out-and-out striker. I think in CM terms he'd be a AM/F C. 10:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Heh, sorry about the edit conflict just now that resulted in my overwriting some of your edit; I noticed that you had to restore Medjani to the squad list, so just wanted to let you know that it wasn't an attempt to revert your edit, but rather a simple oversight! Seb Patrick 15:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I thought as much. He hasn't been the most memorable player... ArtVandelay13 15:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that you changed the banner to the bordered one with the edit summary (taller banner as standard). I never realised that the banner was actually taller - this is a fault with Internet Explorer that can be fixed by removing the text cellpadding="0" from the second line. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I think the smaller banner (as intended) looks much better, and if there's no objection, it should be the standard version.  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk   14:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I didn't realise it was a mistake. To be honest, I prefer the taller banner, it stands out more. I guess we'll see what people think. ArtVandelay13 15:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your tag on Gary Holt.

I'd like to create the same feature for Norwich City players. How do I do it?!?!?! --Dweller 11:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, follow Template_talk:Football squad2 start for instructions. ArtVandelay13 17:50, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've started a discusion here in which you may like to have your say. Thanks.  Slumgum T. C.   15:06, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article on Liverpool F.C. Reserves has recently been nominated for deletion. I note that you have in the past contributed to the article, and was wondering whether you might participate in the debate over whether to keep it. I personally think that it is a useful place to keep information about the Reserve team which is notable in its own right, but may not be notable enough to include in the main Liverpool F.C. article without bloating it too much. I hope you'll find your way to supporting its continued existance. Cheers. Robotforaday 12:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, I see your point about table width. If I were you and I wanted to reduce width I would abbreviate the entries in the "Division" column (like Arsenal F.C. seasons) and drop the Charity Shield column entirely, as it is not as important a competition as the rest. Qwghlm 23:04, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, you could also put a forced break between the words "Average" and "attendance" in the column header, to make that column narrower. Qwghlm 23:06, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for contributing this article! If you write more new articles about German footballers, please announce them at Portal:Germany/New article announcements. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 13:38, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You might also be interested in WikiProject Germany. Best wishes, Kusma (討論) 07:00, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is a great idea but it will be quite big for some lines (eg: central) so a reduce in font size might be helpful but otherwise - go for it. Unisouth 08:41, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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14:52, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

can you shift this article to Steve Gohouri? To the comparison here the German version. 84.189.30.240 16:11, 28 December 2006 (CET)

can you pls explain me why ? [1] --Jor70 23:05, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

External links on major articles like this are pretty contentious and shouldn't be added without discussion. Suggest it on Talk:Liverpool F.C. and see what people say. ArtVandelay13 23:10, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

		Football (soccer) barnstar
		In recognition of your work to improve the quality and coverage of articles on Liverpool F.C. Robotforaday 15:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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• If you don't need a full name, why is it there to begin with?
• Why add his career details for FC Bayern II? I don't think stats from the reserve side meets the notable criteria.
• If fussballdaten.de does the job a lot better why not use it as a source then for the stats?
• We both know that the youth system for Bayern contains more then just a reserve side. Kingjeff 17:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bayern Munich has children as young as 8 or 9 in their youth system. You might want to look at Bayern Munich Junior Team. Why remove fussballdaten.de? It was under external links. Not under references.They play in the Regional Third Division, which is a high level of senior football. Well, this is still not a career for Bayern Reserves. We both know that every member of the reserves wants to play for the 1st team. For players with a middle name. Are you saying he doesn't have a middle name? Kingjeff 18:04, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, seeing you are interested in football I invite you to contribute to this discussion to clarify certain issues about football player notability. I think clearer guidelines are needed to avoid repeated inappropriate nominations for deletion and time consuming discussions. Cheers! StephP 17:22, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you substitute on your subpages all svg-images for railwaydiagrams, which are duplicates, with the other one ? That will be nice. You can find them here. The filenames start with "BSicon" and contain the substring "STB" somewhere behind. Thank you. 84.150.215.245 11:46, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you mentioning {{Sortname}} in discussion of List of Premier League players. I'd never heard of it before, and have now implemented it in List of England national football team captains. Thanks.  Sʟυмgυм • т • c  20:35, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I suddenly realised that you took care of some comments in the Liverpool F.C. peer review. In general I think this is ready for WP:FA nomination. If you like, I'll do it, or you could, in either case I believe this article is very close to getting there. Let me know what you'd like to do (or not do!) and I'll respond accordingly! Best regards, The Rambling Man 22:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Art, I have been impressed with your policing of LFC and overall contributions to Wikipedia and would like to nominate you for admin. Barfbagger 20:34, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough if you don't want to. Could you click on the link to your name in the above box and then decline where it says Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:. Barfbagger 04:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I agree with your reversion on {{Liverpool F.C.}} and have done the same myself on {{Arsenal F.C.}} - though the two clubs have often fought for the same trophies there is little rivalry in the sense of Arsenal's against Tottenham or Chelsea, or Liverpool's against Everton or Man United. The whole Liverpool and Arsenal Football Rivalry is a pile of uncited POV and the comment on Talk:Liverpool and Arsenal Football Rivalry suggests the article creator is oblivious to WP:OWN, so I would suggest nominating for deletion. Your thoughts on the matter would be welcome. Qwghlm 20:07, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for suggesting this redirect be deleted. However, if you could make this mistake, it's likely others could too, and a redirect hardly costs anything in terms of server resources, so I've decided against deleting it. Thanks again! Johnleemk | Talk 14:57, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good work on putting the kits into the articles. It's nice to have something decorative there, even if we can't have the club logos. PeeJay 00:12, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Would you like to join a FC Bayern Munich Taskforce at WikiProject Munich? Kingjeff 20:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This section was removed due to WP:BLP concerns, please do not restore it without citing a reliable source. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 20:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I have nominated this article for deletion on grounds of dubious notability (failing WP:BIO) in the event you would like to comment. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 21:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The issue isn't whether he's a professional or not, though. The issue is whether he should be included in a category that explicitly states that it is for "footballers who have played for Manchester United", when he has not yet played for them. As Hargreaves has never played a game for United, but undoubtedly will in the near future, I have commented out the category until such time. - PeeJay 22:04, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am paying attention, but if you would just look at the category and read the writing at the top, you will see that, as I said, it is for "footballers who have played for Manchester United". To use your example, if Ben Collett never played a game for United, which I don't think he did, then he should be removed from the category. - PeeJay 22:13, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, let's hark back to the discussion they had at WP:FOOTY. Take Dietmar Hamann for example. He was at Bolton for less than a day before changing his mind and deciding that he wanted to join Manchester City. Should he be categorised as a Bolton player? (Yes, I know he's in the Bolton Wanderers F.C. players category, but let's be hypothetical here) Personally, I don't think Hamann should be categorised as a Bolton player, a) because he never played a game for them; and b) because he was only there for a day and, effectively, never wanted to be there in the first place.

Another example is the Premier League players category. There, they are much more specific about their qualification criteria. They say that, for a player to be included, they must have "appeared in at least one first-team league game in the English Premier League, which commenced play in 1992". So while the category may say "Premier League players", not every player who was contracted to a Premier League club is included. - PeeJay 22:30, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well look, I see your point. I do disagree with you, but since I don't doubt that Hargreaves will make his United debut on Wednesday, I won't argue if you uncomment the category now. - PeeJay 22:40, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks so much for your contributions to the article. I'm not sure about how encyclopedic the kit pictures are. Clearly you do (!) Are the kits included in similar articles? --Dweller 16:16, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. --Dweller 16:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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He's only on loan until January so it's hardly worth the debate, but are you sure he wears Guylain on his shirt? I can't say I've been looking but did think it was Ndumbu-Nsungu. Although it does bring up a possible question. Would you put down their surname or their shirt name? E.g. Stelios at Bolton. Peanut4

Please see my comment. I assume it's just an oversight. --Dweller 23:45, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I see you have moved this article from Ludovic Quiston (footballer) to Ludovic Quiston, but I do worry, because although it is clear that he is an international football and the information is there, I have often made the Ludovic Quiston page and some clever dickhead has just deleted it off, so this time I deceded to try making the article as Ludovic Quiston (footballer), do you think they will delete it off again? Stew jones 21:00, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bad news, as I suspected the Ludovic Quiston article has been deleted Stew jones 23:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

[2] Consensus where? I'm not doubting it, just wondering where it is. Thanks. John Hayes^talk 16:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On another note, I was wondering why there is not an LFC taskforce (unless I am being really stupid). It would seem to me, based on the example of Bayern Munich there would be enough articles for one. John Hayes^talk 16:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah thanks, that explained it. Well I will look into setting one up. John Hayes^talk 20:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Liverpool_task_force John Hayes^talk 09:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, you are quite right, I will request that it is fixed. John Hayes^talk 20:54, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, it has now been changed, all the talk pages affected will need to be saved before they are removed from the list. John Hayes^talk 10:51, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Should all be ok now. By the way I really like User:ArtVandelay13/LFCEurope, why don't we move it to the main namespace? Clearly it needs more work as it is only some of the years, but it looks like a nice article. John Hayes^talk 12:07, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

An article that you have been involved in editing, Cameron Belford, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cameron Belford. Thank you. robwingfield ^«T•C» 23:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead with the prod, I see no difficulties with it going through. Kingjamie 17:26, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments on the York City players FLC, which I have now dealt with. But, I was just wondering about your thinking behind loans and permament spells. If Jones' loan was, for example, made from 1996-1997, instead of 1997-1998, merging loan and permament years wouldn't work. This would be counted as two spells, wouldn't it? Mattythewhite 16:39, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]