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Point to anything I wrote on the page, and then explain how I was involved in the edit war. You seem to know an awful lot about terminology and how to manipulate things on this site for someone who's relatively new. [[User:RickK|RickK]] 02:44, 7 Sep 2003 (UTC)
: Point to anything I wrote on the page, and then explain how I was involved in the edit war. You seem to know an awful lot about terminology and how to manipulate things on this site for someone who's relatively new. [[User:RickK|RickK]] 02:44, 7 Sep 2003 (UTC)

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: What I wrote does not in any way contradict the Human Rights Watch report. It is almost common knowledge that Tudjman was plotting the whole thing together with Milosevic. They each wanted "their" territory ethnically "clean" and so they made numerous deals to accomplish the same -- you don't do anything for your people here, I'll invade that area; in return, I won't do anything for my people over there so feel free to invade. The only exceptions were when either side happened to entirely overpower the other, so there was no such negotiation, they just went in and followed their own agenda.

: Furthermore, obstructing return of refugees is nothing new to neither Croat nor Serb authorities -- the very same thing happens on both sides of the border. In fact, in Bosnia, people are said to actually have more trouble returning.

: Trying to paint the picture of how the government of Croatia is Evil and Wrong, while not mentioning the government of Republika Srpska Krajina or Republika Srpska (in Bosnia), is entirely propagandist. Very much in Igor's general style, if I may say so.

: And while I certainly don't condone any abuses the Croatian government commits, they must be given at least as much credit as to acknowledge that all they do is in the open: open to critique from HRW, open to prosecution by the ICTY! Removing the link to the court which indicatively happens to indict a lot of Serbs and a lot less Croats just shows how biased your view really is.

: I implore the highly ranked editors of Wikipedia not to succumb to this seasoned piece of Serbian propaganda that takes every opportunity it can get just to make Croatia look like the worst thing since Holocaust.

: --[[User:Shallot|Shallot]] 11:28, 7 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Revision as of 11:28, 7 September 2003

RickK got into the middle of an edit war and took a side which is preventing me from adding a related URL and NPOV text. The number of Serbs in Croatia has dropped due to what is known as ethnic cleansing, the figures state it, some might want to deny it but fact is that there were some 600 thousand in 1991 and only 200 thousand in 2001. But seeing how RickK accuses me of inputting my own POV perhaps he should get in on the discussion and give us his reasons for his particular POV.

The HRW report goes into detail about the impedance of the Croat government in the attempted return of expelled Serbs. This goes to prove that the cleansing was intentional and that the expulsed wish to return.

User:Igor 1:35, 7 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Point to anything I wrote on the page, and then explain how I was involved in the edit war. You seem to know an awful lot about terminology and how to manipulate things on this site for someone who's relatively new. RickK 02:44, 7 Sep 2003 (UTC)
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What I wrote does not in any way contradict the Human Rights Watch report. It is almost common knowledge that Tudjman was plotting the whole thing together with Milosevic. They each wanted "their" territory ethnically "clean" and so they made numerous deals to accomplish the same -- you don't do anything for your people here, I'll invade that area; in return, I won't do anything for my people over there so feel free to invade. The only exceptions were when either side happened to entirely overpower the other, so there was no such negotiation, they just went in and followed their own agenda.
Furthermore, obstructing return of refugees is nothing new to neither Croat nor Serb authorities -- the very same thing happens on both sides of the border. In fact, in Bosnia, people are said to actually have more trouble returning.
Trying to paint the picture of how the government of Croatia is Evil and Wrong, while not mentioning the government of Republika Srpska Krajina or Republika Srpska (in Bosnia), is entirely propagandist. Very much in Igor's general style, if I may say so.
And while I certainly don't condone any abuses the Croatian government commits, they must be given at least as much credit as to acknowledge that all they do is in the open: open to critique from HRW, open to prosecution by the ICTY! Removing the link to the court which indicatively happens to indict a lot of Serbs and a lot less Croats just shows how biased your view really is.
I implore the highly ranked editors of Wikipedia not to succumb to this seasoned piece of Serbian propaganda that takes every opportunity it can get just to make Croatia look like the worst thing since Holocaust.
--Shallot 11:28, 7 Sep 2003 (UTC)