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==Nixon and Bangladesh==

This article is missing information about Nixon and his alleged complicity in the [[Bangladesh genocide]] during the [[Bangladesh Liberation War]]. This topic was most prominently the subject of the 2013 book ''[[The Blood Telegram: Nixon, Kissinger, and a Forgotten Genocide]]'' by [[Gary J. Bass]]. This isn't just any old book; it not only has its own Wikipedia article, but also was one of the two finalists for the 2014 [[Pulitzer Prize for General Nonfiction]] and won the 2014 [[Cundill Prize]], probably the most prestigious award for a general history book (the [[Pulitzer Prize for History]] is limited to US history), among other awards.

It also received significant coverage in multiple news publications, the most notable of which are:
* a [https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/29/books/review/the-blood-telegram-by-gary-j-bass.html 2013 review] from ''[[The New York Times]]'' by [[Dexter Filkins]],
* a [https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/28/world/asia/bangladesh-archer-blood-cable.html 2016 article] from ''[[The New York Times]]'' by [[Ellen Barry (journalist)|Ellen Barry]],
* a [https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-blood-telegram-nixon-kissinger-and-a-forgotten-genocide-by-gary-j-bass/2013/10/04/aa475130-1fc9-11e3-b7d1-7153ad47b549_story.html 2013 review] from ''[[The Washington Post]]'' by [[Neil Sheehan]],
* and a lengthy [https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/09/23/unholy-alliances-3 2013 review] from ''[[The New Yorker]]'' by [[Pankaj Mishra]].

This information is already featured prominently in [[Henry Kissinger]] and [[Bangladesh genocide]], although those articles are admittedly not featured articles. Regardless, I feel that this article ignores major recent scholarship that was published after this article's promotion to featured status in 2011. If this article has room to mention Nixon's elimination the Cabinet-level [[United States Post Office Department]], his purchase of a condominium in New York City in 1979, and his meeting with newspaper publishers in 1986, it should have room for this consequential policy of Nixon's presidency.

I saw in the archives that Bangladesh was previously brought up, most recently [[Talk:Richard_Nixon/Archive_11#Section_pertaining_to_racist_views_of_Nixon_for_indians_removed|here]], but I don't think they made a strong enough case for its inclusion. [[User:Malerisch|Malerisch]] ([[User talk:Malerisch|talk]]) 12:55, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

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Poker dispute

User:Drdpw and I disagree as to whether Category:American poker players and Category:Amateur poker players are appropriate. I say they are. Nixon's poker winnings helped finance his first political campaign (as noted in a The Independent article), and this Card Player article states that Nixon himself said that the skills he learned from poker proved invaluable in his political career. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Poker playing was not a noteworthy part of Nixon's life and he was not known for being a poker player in life. Drdpw (talk) 05:43, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I could go either way on this one. Nixon's most famous playing of poker was in the Navy, before he became notable, and he did not apparently play in his later years. He famously invested the winnings in his first political campaign, though how much he actually spent is somewhat open to question, since he received financing from local businesspeople and the "investment" may have meant the family lived off the savings while he campaigned in 1946. Wehwalt (talk) 17:43, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Articles disagree about it not being a "noteworthy part", e.g. How playing poker in the Navy transformed Richard Nixon (San Antonio Express-News; subscription required, but the title says it all), How Nixon's WWII Poker Game Helped Bankroll His First Run for Congress (History Channel), and especially in the PokerNews article Poker & Pop Culture: Tricky Dick Talks Poker in the White House, which states he did play poker as a politician and that Tip O'Neill wrote in his autobiography that he told Nixon that "you're one of the worst poker players I've ever seen." These show that he is known (and discussed) as a poker player after his death. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:54, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I oppose categorizing Nixon as a poker player because I do not think that was one of his defining characteristics. Although it is true, I consider it to be a very minor aspect of his life story. Cullen328 (talk) 00:06, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Defining characteristics such as Whittier High School alumni, Whittier Poets football players and Fullerton Union High School alumni? Clarityfiend (talk) 11:30, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes? The phrase Nixon is a Whittier High School alumni sounds fine—Nixon is an American poker player does not. :3 F4U (they/it) 13:29, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

War on Drugs/War on Cancer

Neither of these terms are consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources ([1], [2]) and therefore go against MOS:CAPS. :3 F4U (they/it) 20:20, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How do we know that the lower case "war on xxxx" refer to the Nixon-era programs? Wehwalt (talk) 20:25, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Among news sources, there is no indication that there is anything even resembling a substantial majority for "war on drugs" (and I'm certain the same is the case with cancer). Regardless, Wikipedia doesn't capitalize unless it can be shown that there is a need to capitalize.
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:3 F4U (they/it) 20:43, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Seems reasonable. Changed in all cases. Wehwalt (talk) 20:50, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Odd POV sentence

Our lead says

Nixon ended American involvement in Vietnam combat in 1973 and the military draft in the same year.

Without contextualizing the now-accepted mainstream view that he prolonged the war by many years and many deaths, and that the all-volunteer army paved the way for ongoing US military adventures in the Mideast. Any ideas about framing this more neutrally or at least helping readers avoid undue conclusions about these actions? SPECIFICO talk 16:27, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't get what is UNDUE about those statements. He campaigned on doing both....and did both by 1973.Rja13ww33 (talk) 16:53, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
He campaigned on a secret plan to end the Vietnam War in 1968 -- and intensified the bombing and other deadly initiatives for an additional 4+ years thereafter. All things eventually come to an end, but I'd say Hanoi ended the war more than Nixon, wouldn't you? SPECIFICO talk 17:02, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
How could he have ended the war in '68 when he took office in '69? His time table certainly shifted around....but the fact remains: he campaigned on ending the war, and American combat units were gone by 1973. So I still don't see the issue with that statement. The fact that he escalated bombing and went into Cambodia are covered in the article.Rja13ww33 (talk) 17:19, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comes off as snide remark, Rja. I said he campaigned in 1968. OK with you now? We know it's in the article, but why is Nixon's escalation switcheroo not in the lead alongside the fact that the war eventually ended before he was sacked? SPECIFICO talk 20:07, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A snide remark was not my intent. The fact is, he never really had a firm time table. He didn't give one in his acceptance speech at the '68 GOP Convention....and there wasn't one in the '68 GOP platform. And by '72, our forces (and casualties) had been cut by more than 90% in Vietnam....and by '73, they were gone. I would certainly consider that ending American involvement.Rja13ww33 (talk) 20:18, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What would you propose to cover the "switcheroo"?Rja13ww33 (talk) 20:21, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I would propose saying that he failed to fulfill his 1968 campaign vow to quickly end the war, escalated it sporadically but brutally over the course of his first term, and that his actions led to widespread domestic protests and civic unrest, culminating in the Kent State Shooting of 1970. SPECIFICO talk 20:48, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Uh, I think that is a bit more POV than what is already there. Something more neutral would be (to me): "after escalating the Vietnam War [maybe a link to the Cambodian incursion somewhere around here] at times, he ended American involvement in Vietnam combat by 1973 and the military draft in the same year."
It's a little difficult to call all of his actions a escalation when American troop levels did nothing but fall during his tenure.Rja13ww33 (talk) 21:01, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing in my proposal is inconsistent with the decline in troop levels. He just found a new technology to escalate by using more brutal but less politically sensitive methods. The reduction of troop levels and all-volunteer army were conceived and have functioned as ways to generate less domestic opposition to armed conflicts with largescale deployment of conscripts. SPECIFICO talk 21:35, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen RS that says Nixon hoped to undermine the anti-Vietnam War movement with this move. (As many protests were anti-draft.) But you seem to be saying he hoped this would give a blank check for future conflicts....that part I haven't seen (in RS). [Comment: I do have to say this is somewhat amusing: it puts Nixon in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. End the draft (which is what the anti-war movement wanted)? You just want future wars. Don't end the draft? You just want to kill poor & minorities in the MIC's games. After all these years, I still kind of pity the guy. Oh well.]Rja13ww33 (talk) 22:10, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Trivial, but...New Jerseyan Nixon or New Yorker Nixon?

Hey everyone! I was looking into presidents' official places of residence, specifically their official home state / state of residence. To do so, one of the sources I used was the NARA's collection of Death File records from the Social Security Administration. On said records, the zip code of someone's residence at the time of their death is given. For some reason, contrary to all other records for presidents among the Death Files, Nixon's residence (and his wife's residence) is different than their commonly acknowleged residence: the zipcode given in the source links to Bronxville, New York rather than New Jersey. Does anyone have any evidence or opinions that may help with this matter? Thank you!

The source is: https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=3003&mtch=71&cat=all&tf=F&sc=29343,29348,29350,29353,29354,29355,29362,29370,29371,29372&q=richard+nixon&bc=sl,fd&rpp=10&pg=2&rid=5274443&rlst=5273987,5274030,5274034,5274266,5274307,5274411,5274443,5274910,5275189,5275198 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ozzy4Prezz (talk • contribs) 22:14, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nixon and Bangladesh

This article is missing information about Nixon and his alleged complicity in the Bangladesh genocide during the Bangladesh Liberation War. This topic was most prominently the subject of the 2013 book The Blood Telegram: Nixon, Kissinger, and a Forgotten Genocide by Gary J. Bass. This isn't just any old book; it not only has its own Wikipedia article, but also was one of the two finalists for the 2014 Pulitzer Prize for General Nonfiction and won the 2014 Cundill Prize, probably the most prestigious award for a general history book (the Pulitzer Prize for History is limited to US history), among other awards.

It also received significant coverage in multiple news publications, the most notable of which are:

This information is already featured prominently in Henry Kissinger and Bangladesh genocide, although those articles are admittedly not featured articles. Regardless, I feel that this article ignores major recent scholarship that was published after this article's promotion to featured status in 2011. If this article has room to mention Nixon's elimination the Cabinet-level United States Post Office Department, his purchase of a condominium in New York City in 1979, and his meeting with newspaper publishers in 1986, it should have room for this consequential policy of Nixon's presidency.

I saw in the archives that Bangladesh was previously brought up, most recently here, but I don't think they made a strong enough case for its inclusion. Malerisch (talk) 12:55, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]