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::::::Dear [[User:Kj cheetham|Kj cheetham]], I would like to thank you one more time for your support and your edits. I will search for additional references to confirm the dates and for secondary sources as well. It can take a while. I hope the deletion process will not be necessary. Could you please only remove the [according to whom?] since this is not 'one of his most scientific achievements' anymore and the reference confirms that this is a scientific achievement? Thank you and all the best, -- [[User:Msciszewianka|Msciszewianka]] ([[User talk:Msciszewianka|talk]]) 14:46, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
::::::Dear [[User:Kj cheetham|Kj cheetham]], I would like to thank you one more time for your support and your edits. I will search for additional references to confirm the dates and for secondary sources as well. It can take a while. I hope the deletion process will not be necessary. Could you please only remove the [according to whom?] since this is not 'one of his most scientific achievements' anymore and the reference confirms that this is a scientific achievement? Thank you and all the best, -- [[User:Msciszewianka|Msciszewianka]] ([[User talk:Msciszewianka|talk]]) 14:46, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::Dear {{u|Msciszewianka}}, happy to help where I can. :) There is [[WP:NODEADLINE|no deadline]] to Wikipedia overall. I've removed the tag as requested. -[[User:Kj cheetham|Kj cheetham]] ([[User talk:Kj cheetham#top|talk]]) 15:28, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
:::::::Dear {{u|Msciszewianka}}, happy to help where I can. :) There is [[WP:NODEADLINE|no deadline]] to Wikipedia overall. I've removed the tag as requested. -[[User:Kj cheetham|Kj cheetham]] ([[User talk:Kj cheetham#top|talk]]) 15:28, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::Thank you, [[User:Kj cheetham|Kj cheetham]] :) I learned a lot from you. I will do my best. -- [[User:Msciszewianka|Msciszewianka]] ([[User talk:Msciszewianka|talk]]) 15:48, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== Administrators' newsletter – January 2023 == |
== Administrators' newsletter – January 2023 == |
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Revision as of 15:48, 8 January 2023
Merry Christmas!
| Merry Christmas, Kj cheetham | |
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Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! |
- Onel5969, thank you, that's very much appreciated! -Kj cheetham (talk) 13:48, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
Happy Christmas
- Joseywales1961, thank you, that's very much appreciated! -Kj cheetham (talk) 13:48, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
Happy New Year!
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
Gricharduk (talk) 08:02, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Gricharduk, thank you, that's appreciated! Happy new year to you too! -Kj cheetham (talk) 17:16, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
NPP Award for 2022
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The New Page Reviewer's Silver Award | ||
| For over 2,000 article reviews during 2022. Well done! Keep up the good work! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:04, 2 January 2023 (UTC) |
- MPGuy2824 Thank you! Happy I was able to help out! -Kj cheetham (talk) 11:49, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Happy New Year, Kj cheetham!
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
— Moops ⋠T⋡ 04:59, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Moops Thank you! All the best to you and your family! -Kj cheetham (talk) 11:51, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
Hello Kj cheetham,

- Backlog
The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
- 2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)
New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js
Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.
Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.
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Please advise
Hi, in 2021 I created an article about a scientist Wojciech Karlowski and you kindly helped me to publish it. Now, I noticed that there is a tag on the article informing about my possible connection to the subject. Unfortunately, I was not aware that this may be a problem. I'm related to the subject but the article is based on pure and well documented facts. There is no personal opinion or anything subjective in the article. Could you please advise how should I proceed now? Should I delete the article or is there any way to remove the tag? I just don't want to leave it like this. Thank you a lot and best regards. -- Msciszewianka (talk) 13:39, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
- Msciszewianka, thanks for your message. I'll take a look and get back to you in the next few days. -Kj cheetham (talk) 18:28, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your help. -- Msciszewianka (talk) 19:09, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Msciszewianka I've had a closer look than I did previously. I've tagged the article talk page about your conflict of interest, and left some further information on your own talk page. It doesn't look overly subjective to me, so I've removed the tag you referred to, but I've added another tag as most of the references are primary. There should be more references which are secondary (i.e. not written by the subject or their institution) to back it up, especially when several of the facts don't seem to be verified and hence may need to be removed at some point. I hope this helps at least partially. -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:49, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you very much for your support. To be honest, the situation is quite difficult for me because I created this article purely as a source of information for the community. There is no conflict of interest or promotional or any other similar purpose. I will also confirm it on my talk page because I hope to contribute more to the Wikipedia in the future, of course, following the Wikipedia rules. Unfortunately, it seems there is a problem associated with this article that I didn’t know about and therefore, maybe the best way would be to just remove the article.
- I'm sorry to hear it's difficult, though I can understand. Because of your relationship, it's an WP:ACTUALCOI even if not being promotion, but should also be aware that that's just a statement of fact (see WP:COINOTBIAS). You can still make some uncontraversial edits to the article (as per WP:COIADVICE and WP:COISELF). If you do want to go down the deletion route in the end, neither of us can just delete the article. Would need to open an WP:AFD discussion (which I can do for you) which lasts for 7 days before an administrator either marks it to keep or deletes it. As it's a biography of a living person, WP:BLPDELETE applies. -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:22, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you very much for your support. To be honest, the situation is quite difficult for me because I created this article purely as a source of information for the community. There is no conflict of interest or promotional or any other similar purpose. I will also confirm it on my talk page because I hope to contribute more to the Wikipedia in the future, of course, following the Wikipedia rules. Unfortunately, it seems there is a problem associated with this article that I didn’t know about and therefore, maybe the best way would be to just remove the article.
- Hi Msciszewianka I've had a closer look than I did previously. I've tagged the article talk page about your conflict of interest, and left some further information on your own talk page. It doesn't look overly subjective to me, so I've removed the tag you referred to, but I've added another tag as most of the references are primary. There should be more references which are secondary (i.e. not written by the subject or their institution) to back it up, especially when several of the facts don't seem to be verified and hence may need to be removed at some point. I hope this helps at least partially. -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:49, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your help. -- Msciszewianka (talk) 19:09, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Regarding the missing references, as far as I understand I’m not allowed to edit this article anymore. Therefore, I would like to explain them in detail:
- - 3-month internship in Cologne – there is a document confirming it, however, it is not published on the web, and for this reason it cannot be cited. Of course, I can send it to you. If this is not enough, this sentence should be removed.
- I'll just delete the sentance. It needs to be verifiable by others not just me. It doesn't need to be a source that's online, but it should be published at least (e.g. in a book in a library).
- - 1997-2000 Postdoctoral Fellowship at UCLA – the same as above, documents are available. However, the affiliations from the Reference #3 clearly confirm the presence at UCLA and the name of the PI. He is also mentioned as a former Postdoc at the webpage of Ann Hirsch Lab: https://sites.lifesci.ucla.edu/mcdb-hirschlab/people-2/
- I'll add that as a reference too, but that isn't verified is the date range, so I've just removed that part.
- - 2001-2004 Scientist in Munich – the same as above, documents are available. However, the affiliations from the References #4, 5, 6 and 7 clearly confirm the presence at MIPS and the name of the PI.
- Again I'll remove the specific date range, as that's not verified.
- - One of his most scientific achievements during that time – this is a statement based on scientific work published at that time – the Reference #7 was published in the most influential journal with a high impact factor (IF). This is an objective statement, not personal.
- To me that just confirms it's a significant achievement, not it's "one of his most". I'll edit it slightly.
- - 2004 position at AMU in Poznan - documents with dates are available. Confirmation of Associate Professor position: Reference #1 and https://recenzenci.opi.org.pl/sssr-web/site/people-details?personId=a905d27380f676fb&lang=en
- Are the documents accessible? I'll remove the date in the meantime.
- - 2007 3-month internship in Perpignan – the Funding Section and the affiliations in the Reference #8 confirm the presence in this lab.
- Doesn't confirm it was 3 months, or the Marie Curie Host Fellowships for the Transfer of Knowledge program.
- - 2009 own research group – documents with dates are available. Confirmation of own group: https://afproject.org/bioinformatyka/kontakt.php ; https://amu.edu.pl/uniwersytet/wyszukiwarka-pracownikow/osoba?id=10001630 ; http://ibmib.home.amu.edu.pl/pl/zaklad-biologii-obliczeniowej/
- - 2014 Professor at AMU – documents with dates are available. Confirmation of Professor position: Reference #1 and https://recenzenci.opi.org.pl/sssr-web/site/people-details?personId=a905d27380f676fb&lang=en
- Can confirm the professorship in 2014, but not the date of forming the group.
- Thank you, a lot, for your help and I’m sorry about the problem I created. Best regards, -- Msciszewianka (talk) 19:55, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hope my most recent edits help. Even something like a published CV would verify the dates. However overall the article still suffers from a lack of secondary sources. They are mostly still primary. Secondary sources help to show notability, beyond what the subject writes themselves. You may also wish to get additional help at the WP:TEAHOUSE, as I've probably done all I can with regards editing it at this stage. The only other thing I can potentially do is open a deletion discussion to argue they are not sufficiently notable, which I generally try to avoid doing. The criteria by which academics are determined to be notable or not is WP:NPROF. Hopefully this doesn't overly complicate things. -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:22, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Kj cheetham, I would like to thank you one more time for your support and your edits. I will search for additional references to confirm the dates and for secondary sources as well. It can take a while. I hope the deletion process will not be necessary. Could you please only remove the [according to whom?] since this is not 'one of his most scientific achievements' anymore and the reference confirms that this is a scientific achievement? Thank you and all the best, -- Msciszewianka (talk) 14:46, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Msciszewianka, happy to help where I can. :) There is no deadline to Wikipedia overall. I've removed the tag as requested. -Kj cheetham (talk) 15:28, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, Kj cheetham :) I learned a lot from you. I will do my best. -- Msciszewianka (talk) 15:48, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Msciszewianka, happy to help where I can. :) There is no deadline to Wikipedia overall. I've removed the tag as requested. -Kj cheetham (talk) 15:28, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Dear Kj cheetham, I would like to thank you one more time for your support and your edits. I will search for additional references to confirm the dates and for secondary sources as well. It can take a while. I hope the deletion process will not be necessary. Could you please only remove the [according to whom?] since this is not 'one of his most scientific achievements' anymore and the reference confirms that this is a scientific achievement? Thank you and all the best, -- Msciszewianka (talk) 14:46, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hope my most recent edits help. Even something like a published CV would verify the dates. However overall the article still suffers from a lack of secondary sources. They are mostly still primary. Secondary sources help to show notability, beyond what the subject writes themselves. You may also wish to get additional help at the WP:TEAHOUSE, as I've probably done all I can with regards editing it at this stage. The only other thing I can potentially do is open a deletion discussion to argue they are not sufficiently notable, which I generally try to avoid doing. The criteria by which academics are determined to be notable or not is WP:NPROF. Hopefully this doesn't overly complicate things. -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:22, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – January 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2022).
- Speedy deletion criterion A5 (transwikied articles) has been repealed following an unopposed proposal.
- Following the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Barkeep49, CaptainEek, GeneralNotability, Guerillero, L235, Moneytrees, Primefac, SilkTork.
- The 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review has concluded with many changes to the discretionary sanctions procedure including a change of the name to "contentious topics". The changes are being implemented over the coming month.
- The arbitration case Stephen has been closed.
- Voting for the Sound Logo has closed and the winner is expected to be announced February to April 2023.
- Tech tip: You can view information about IP addresses in a centralised location using bullseye which won the Newcomer award in the recent Coolest Tool Awards.
Hello
Hi! I just thought you looked pretty cool helping everyone out with all the science and stuff! Zaxalightning2 (talk) 22:10, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Zaxalightning2 thank you for your message! Do let me know if there's ever anything I can do to help you on here. -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:39, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
