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can we please add the other lawsuits that happened? we had the steve smith & ross valory lawsuit. then the Steve Perry lawsuit. Then the Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain credit card lawsuit followed shortly by the very recent cease and desist. these lawsuits are very recent and they're not on the site [[Special:Contributions/72.66.45.99|72.66.45.99]] ([[User talk:72.66.45.99|talk]]) 07:58, 22 December 2022 (UTC) |
can we please add the other lawsuits that happened? we had the steve smith & ross valory lawsuit. then the Steve Perry lawsuit. Then the Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain credit card lawsuit followed shortly by the very recent cease and desist. these lawsuits are very recent and they're not on the site [[Special:Contributions/72.66.45.99|72.66.45.99]] ([[User talk:72.66.45.99|talk]]) 07:58, 22 December 2022 (UTC) |
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:If there can be sources found to support them, then yes. [[User:HorrorLover555|HorrorLover555]] ([[User talk:HorrorLover555|talk]]) 17:06, 22 December 2022 (UTC) |
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Chart History of Don't Stop Believin'
The unregistered user "informed consent" has made some excellent edits. Unregistered users cannot be "thanked" in the edit history. So, thanks!
I'd like to briefly discuss this one passage:
- The second single, the now iconic "Don't Stop Believin'", actually charted lower than those two singles [ Who's Crying Now and Open Arms] in most markets at that time, such as peaking at number 9 in both the US and Canada. Then, in 2007, the song gained press coverage and a sharp growth in popularity when it was used in The Sopranos television series final episode[1] prompting digital downloads of the song to soar.[2]
I think it implies that the song wasn't as big a hit when first released than after the Sopranos finale because it only charted a US high of #9, compared with the album's other two singles. I think that fails to account for two factors:
- 1) a #9 hit is a top ten hit, receiving copious airplay and contributing to significant album and ticket sales;
and (perhaps more importantly)
- 2) the single charted against a different group of singles than the first and third singles; in other words, context matters.
I don't have immediately available the #1-#8 hits of the week(s) when the song was #9, but I'll bet they were tough contenders of equal popularity to the #1-#3 hits when "Who's Crying Now" peaked at #4 and the #1 hits when "Open Arms" peaked at #2 (Centerfold" by the J. Geils Band and "I Love Rock 'n' Roll" by Joan Jett and the Blackhearts).
In other words, some weeks are tougher than others, but that shouldn't detract from the thorough and widespread popularity of "Don't Stop Believin'" in 1981. The Sopranos finale didn't make the song a smash hit (but it obviously added greatly to its cachet).
Dave Golland (talk) 19:24, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Free Services for PR :: News :: Press Releases". pr-inside.com. Archived from the original on March 8, 2008.
- ^ "Journey Members Reflect on Importance of 'Sopranos' and 'Glee,' Talk PBS Doc". The Hollywood Reporter. August 6, 2013. Retrieved October 19, 2013.
Removal of opportunistic data from Wikipedia entries
There appears to be a growing trend of using Wikipedia articles (such as this one) for self-promotion and product plugging. For example, the popular culture section of this article contained an advertisement for a novel series called "Lady In Red" by an author, Jackie Hemingway. There are no Wikipedia articles for Jackie Hemingway or her books, which means she is tagging these articles inappropriately with mundane references.
Here's another example, using the entry for the Bologna massacre: "The bombing is also mentioned in the 2021 novel, Lady In Red, by Jackie Hemingway. News reports about the bombing are being broadcast over the radio as the main protagonist, Jack Hemingway, purchases a book in a Liverpool, England, bookstore." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6080:EF05:973B:B437:D895:2F21:3879 (talk) 19:29, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
the other lawsuits in the 2020-present section
can we please add the other lawsuits that happened? we had the steve smith & ross valory lawsuit. then the Steve Perry lawsuit. Then the Neal Schon and Jonathan Cain credit card lawsuit followed shortly by the very recent cease and desist. these lawsuits are very recent and they're not on the site 72.66.45.99 (talk) 07:58, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- If there can be sources found to support them, then yes. HorrorLover555 (talk) 17:06, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

