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I don't know what you think about zhihu.com, but it is a website similar to wiki or Q&A. I personally don't think this type of website is reliable.Although zhihu.com seems to have added other features, I can be sure that https://www.zhihu.com/question/19734059 you restored is a Q&A page. The /question/ has been marked in the URL. Rastinition (talk) 16:34, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Rastinition, I don't understand Chinese and can't navigate the site very well. Zhihu was the only one I couldn't quickly figure out. What mostly matters there is who answered the question. If it's just answered by a random person (like Quora most of the time), you were right in removing it. If it was answered by a developer who worked on the font or with a relation to those who did, it could be useful. If you believe it was answered by someone with no relation to the font developers I have no objection to the removal of the zhihu.com link. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 16:58, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much. I kind of hate to be difficult here, but the more I dig, the worse it gets. Hell, I just remembered that I have CC-licensed some of my work in the past... and then found this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Spotsylvania_Court_House#/media/File:Battle_of_Spottsylvania_by_Thure_de_Thulstrup.jpg

Compare MediaViewer's read of the copyright status and attribution of that with File:Battle_of_Spottsylvania_by_Thure_de_Thulstrup.jpg.

I don't want to make a huge fuss over this, and, honestly, I'm half inclined to relicense that to a simple Attribution, since I think CC-by is honestly a bit more strict than I'd like. But I spent literal weeks on that, and Britain gives out copyright like candy, and that's just... blatant.

I'm happy to wait, but it's been 8 years at this point, and I'm kind of losing hope. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.5% of all FPs} 18:26, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden, thanks. I won't lead you on, either I'm unable to fix it and will inform you of that soon (bug me if I forget!) or there will be a proposal fairly soon. (think weeks, not years) My question I asked on phab:T68606 still stands though: if you use a pipe symbol or {{!}} instead of a new line, what happens? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:38, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I tried this with File:Esther_Bubley_-_An_instructor_of_the_Capitol_Transit_Company_teaching_a_woman_to_operate_a_one-man_streetcar.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_women_in_World_War_II#/media/File:Esther_Bubley_-_An_instructor_of_the_Capitol_Transit_Company_teaching_a_woman_to_operate_a_one-man_streetcar.jpg - I'm not seeing any change in behaviour, but feel free to use that for testing. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.5% of all FPs} 20:15, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden, I see. On File:Mathew B. Brady - William Sidney Mount.jpg the restoration had it's own bullet point, on Esther Bubley it doesn't, so newline or not makes no difference for MediaViewer. I figured maybe MV was simply chopping off everything after the first line, I actually can't rule out yet whether or not it does, but it's not that simple. Leave it like this anyway, variations are always useful for testing. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 21:43, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_O%27Conor_(American_politician)#/media/File%3ACharles_OConor_-_Brady-Handy.jpg might be a good test case as well. A simple two-creator file. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.5% of all FPs} 23:57, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden, here's a.. proof of concept? User:Alexis Jazz/MVattrib. Let me know what you think. Takes a moment to load because it just waits for a second before doing anything as otherwise the elements don't exist yet. (this can be much improved, it's a proof of concept) This isn't exactly the optimal solution, but the only thing Wikimedia/MediaWiki developers are really interested in is structured data. Unfortunately they cocked up the implementation, resulting in massive duplication of license information. I'm not sure if it's even possible yet to transclude information from structured data in wikitext (I've given up hope a long time ago so I don't keep track), but right now anyway the license information in wikitext is leading. Being license compliant should be top priority for them, but, sigh, what did I expect.
One thing though: I'm not sure I'll be comfortable creating a proposal. I've been shat on sufficiently for this month and probably the next as well. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 10:20, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden, in case it wasn't clear, the shitting is entirely unrelated to you. It's just stuff that happens and it drains my energy. You don't need me to create a proposal anyway. Any comment on the script? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 04:09, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Afraid I've not had a chance yet - been a funny two days - but I will ASAP. I hope things improve. Commons can be...odd. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.5% of all FPs} 16:17, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden, no need to self-censor for me. A Commons admin accused me of making death threats, which they fabricated. I doubt you can surprise me. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:53, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Been barely functional due to sleep issues. Kinda prone to it. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.5% of all FPs} 01:10, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden, I can relate. Also, I added a screenshot to User:Alexis Jazz/MVattrib. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 01:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It looks pretty decent, now that I've checked. Probably could figure out what we could leave out or keep in from there, but it's hardly the "Unfunctional mess" that was being claimed. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.6% of all FPs} 04:14, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding this, it should be OK – I follow the instructions in the comment that includes the text RESETTING. In other words, only the status table starting after the commented section is reset after publication. Sometimes another editor does the reset, and they should be following the same instructions. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:43, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Bri, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom (diff 1041810600)? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:53, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • You're right. It looks like we had some reset issues in 2H2021, maybe due to rotation of publication managers. Not sure why I did it that way anymore. ☆ Bri (talk) 19:00, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Jazz, in instances like this, please address the requestor, not me. Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 23:33, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• FlightTime, I addressed both, but as a file mover, you're supposed to check requests for validity. It's okay you missed one, happens to the best of us, but I figure you'd want to know if/when you miss one, don't you? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 00:59, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Sorry for being a little snappy above, bad day I guess and just wanted to say nice research on on the Gatorade file, keep up the good work. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 18:05, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can File:Shyamoupti Mudly.jpeg be allowed on local English Wikipedia upload as the file could be adequately covered by a free-license via Commons (for example taking the photograph of the actress). Please have a look. If this continues, then all will bypass rules and upload copyright images. 42.106.249.159 (talk) 18:13, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• 42.106.249.159, if you have an account with some edits you can log in and enable Twinkle to nominate the file for deletion. You can also do it without Twinkle but it's more complicated: Wikipedia:Files for discussion#instructions. You could also ask User:Shinnosuke15 directly why they think the image meets WP:NFCC as I doubt they uploaded the image in bad faith. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:15, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  I also feel that the upload was not done in bad faith, but in this way User:Shinnosuke15 or others will upload copyright images of all living people in articles misusing WP:NFCC policy. WP:NFCC is used for logos, TV & Film posters only. 42.106.249.159 (talk) 19:48, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  I have tagged the image with {{di-replaceable non-free use}} 42.106.249.159 (talk) 19:55, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  42.106.249.159, that seems like an appropriate tag. Btw, there are a few additional cases where non-free content is allowed, like collapsed structures, one-time events that have passed, people who passed away and people/groups whose looks played a role in their notability and who no longer look like they did when they were doing what made them notable. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:21, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  I agree but none of the ones you mentioned applies here for the image in question 42.106.249.218 (talk) 20:39, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I found the picture in a news article. Can it be uploaded in commons? If not, it can be deleted. Shinnosuke15, 06:50, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Shinnosuke15, no. Commons only accepts freely licensed files. On Wikipedia non-free files require a non-free rationale, which when the subject is a person is most commonly that the person is deceased so no new picture can be taken. From what I can tell Shyamoupti Mudly is alive. Is she one of the presenters in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XkcHxSrwqw ? That video has a free license, I could take a screenshot from it. (or you could, either way it would be easier if the whole video was uploaded if it's useful) The video description isn't clear but YouTube search gave me that video when I looked for her name. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 09:50, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

She is not Shyamoupti Mudly. She is actually Ishita Mukherjee, she says at the end of the video that she will play the character of Dipanwita in Alo Chhaya. The show had ended now and I have crossed checked it. 42.106.217.86 (talk) 12:16, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

42.106.217.86, thank you, no idea why YouTube search returned that video in that case as her name doesn't seem to be in the description or comments and the video has no subtitles. Actually, who exactly? The closest name I see in Alo Chhaya is Ipshita Mukherjee. Could an image of her be useful for any article? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 15:05, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the spelling mistake. Yes, its Ipshita Mukherjee. I don't think its useful anywhere since the actress don't have any Wikipedia article. 42.106.217.86 (talk) 15:35, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

42.106.217.86, if she played a main character in a production that has a Wikipedia article, perhaps it could be used there. I don't know if she has, though. Oh well, I uploaded it anyway: File:Ipshita Mukherjee XkcHxSrwqw 5.46.jpg. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 15:49, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

👍👍👍 42.106.217.86 (talk) 17:33, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm betting you understand what's going on here Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming, Looks like a loose bot or something, so many files. - FlightTime (open channel) 04:54, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FlightTime, I do indeed.. I saw a few of these requests some days ago. This is about files that have a local description page (typically a DYK notice or similar) that were moved on Commons. It was only a few back then, now it's more. @Mitar:, file movers can't help you. We can't move a file page to a name that exists as a Commons image. I'm not sure if administrators could, you could ask I guess but I wouldn't be surprised if they can't do it either. You just have to recreate the page at the desired location and request deletion of the old page. Sure, we can do that, but so can you, so there's no point in requesting renames. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:50, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I made few requests few days ago and I saw them resolved. So I thought it worked so I made requests for all cases where I found the issue. So I think there are few issues here a) why those descriptions are not moved when commons file is renamed, I think that should probably be filled as a bug in Phabricator, no? b) what is the best way to resolve existing cases for which I put the template on. If renaming cannot be done, then that is tricky. Doesn't recreation of the page loses history? It would be nice if original history is retained. How to do that? Mitar (talk) 08:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have asked admins here. Mitar (talk) 12:35, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mitar, for those old requests I just requested their deletion and recreated them at the target. (indeed destroying the history) Here are some things you could do:
1. Sure, you could file a Phab task. I'm not sure if this qualifies as a bug or a feature request. If you wrongly file it as a bug they might close it as invalid instead of changing the subtype. Either way I wouldn't expect them to do anything about it, they are way too busy awarding themselves barn stars for inefficient tools with few features. (I should know, I wrote a more efficient tool with many features) and rationalizing bugs reports away. But who knows, maybe a volunteer will pick it up. Keep the hope alive.
2. Ask an admin if they can move it. Because I don't know for sure.
3. If they can't be moved the only way to retain history would be a crosswiki round robin move variant. Move the file on Commons without leaving a redirect, move the file locally, move the file on Commons back. This isn't going to happen.
4. I could rollback your requests if you want (I have the rollbacker right) so you can substitute the page at the intended target, the edit summary would show the subst template, providing a tiny bit of history. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 12:36, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jazz, thank you very much. I'm not sure I understand everything, but now I can figure it out. I get confused when there's cross wiki stuff, I tend to stay away from those requests, anyway thanx again for your (good) explanation. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 01:24, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]