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Could someone post the preliminary results (make a subsection at the end of the article)? Both for the general and the regional elections that took place. --[[Special:Contributions/79.140.150.206|79.140.150.206]] ([[User talk:79.140.150.206|talk]]) 22:47, 26 September 2021 (UTC) |
Could someone post the preliminary results (make a subsection at the end of the article)? Both for the general and the regional elections that took place. --[[Special:Contributions/79.140.150.206|79.140.150.206]] ([[User talk:79.140.150.206|talk]]) 22:47, 26 September 2021 (UTC) |
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:There's no deadline (see [[WP:NODEADLINE]]); so that should absolutely wait until we at least have the complete preliminary results (there's still about 25 seats for which these are not available - notably the whole of Berlin ([https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2021/sep/26/german-election-results-exit-poll-and-possible-coalitions link here])). [[User:RandomCanadian|RandomCanadian]] ([[User talk:RandomCanadian|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/RandomCanadian|contribs]]) 23:53, 26 September 2021 (UTC) |
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Picture change of Armin laschet and Olaf Scholz
- @Lord Stephenson: So what is there to discuss about implementing more recent pictures, if those pictures have the same quality? Time of Use of those older pictures is IMO not an argument to use older pictures even further. PS: I have updated the introducing-pictures of those two politicians in their wiki-biografies aswell. ----LennBr (talk) 21:18, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- First of all, both images are the lead images in the pages of Armin Laschet and Olaf Scholz. Secondly, both images are long-standing and there is no immediate need of revision but the fact that they are older than the images you suggested. However, they are only older by a year compared to the images you suggested and of a good quality, so in my opinion, WP:BROKE can be applied here. Thirdly, although the current images may not necessarily be of a better quality than the images you suggested, they are better-looking and more fitting. In the photograph of Armin Laschet that you suggested, Laschet's face is partly obscured due to the unfortunate angle in which the photograph was taken. In the current photograph of Laschet, that is not the case. The photograph of Olaf Scholz that you suggested is not an official photograph, unlike the current photograph. Scholz is also not looking at the camera, unlike in the current photograph. Fourthly, although the images you suggested have been taken more recently than the current images,Armin Laschet and Olaf Scholz have not visibly changed, which in my opinion leads to the issue of which photograph has been taken more recently irrelevant. I do therefore propose that the images of Armin Laschet be retained as they are now. ----Lord Stephenson (talk) 21:40, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Lord Stephenson: Well a lot of wanna-be arguments from you. For the the first two: the fact that a picture is in use is no pro/nor a con argument...its irrelevant, as pictures can be changed by an instant. Also, for living persons the norm is, that pictures of them gets updated eventually. The third "argument" (about good looking) is not more than just a opinion. I for example - and from what I can see from the article history - several other user - wanted to change those pictures. I guess we all wanted to change it, because - at least in Armins case - he doesnt look really beneficial on the photo, that you try to keep in use. Introduction-pictures of politicians are (or at least should be) respresentative at best (for possible state leaders this applies even more). Unfortunately all four pictures are not more than just "snap-shots", with better quality. And if not looking at the camera were an actual argument, you would take that seriously and would not paste a picture, where Armin Laschet doesnt look straight into camera aswell. Now, as I have set this straight, I propose to implement this picture of Armin (both on this election article and on his wiki-biography) and implement the more recent picture of olaf in this and his article, too (as it is not as blurry as the one year older one...that the newer one is not an official one is irrelevant/has no effect). ----LennBr (talk) 22:27, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Official results of the 2021 election
The official results of the 2021 election will be published here on election day (26 September) at 6 pm (18:00). Cheers. RyanW1995 (talk) 09:16, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- This is wrong. The first projections were published at 6 pm, not the official results. --82.207.237.220 (talk) 22:18, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
SSW in infobox?
According to most projections[1] the SSW looks to win a seat. In case this does happen, should they or should they not be included in the infobox? Gust Justice (talk) 16:25, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, when it is confirmed. See 2021 Norwegian parliamentary election, the party "Patient Focus" is in the box because they have a seat, while a fair half dozen of parties got more votes without getting a seat. Unknown Temptation (talk) 17:31, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- The SSW should not be included. In fact, I had added them sometime in June. But now, I think that it doesn't really make sense including a minority party that has no influence on the balance of power and likely less than 1 % of the vote in the electionbox. KamikazeMatrix26Juni (talk) 19:56, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- This would be my view as well. Also is the policy followed in 2019 UK election. Gust Justice (talk) 22:00, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- The SSW should not be included. In fact, I had added them sometime in June. But now, I think that it doesn't really make sense including a minority party that has no influence on the balance of power and likely less than 1 % of the vote in the electionbox. KamikazeMatrix26Juni (talk) 19:56, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Infobox reflinks
The version as I proposed it is in use in the 2019 Canadian federal election page, in fact, it is an exact copy for the exact same situation. Putting the information that the leader won the seat, but is not the incumbent, is not as important as that the leader lost the seat and hence, it makes sense to include it in a refnote. If the leader lost his/her seat, spelling it out in italics right around the seat is more appropriate because in most cases, it is more dramatic and otherwise it would contradict the category of "leaders seat" - that seat would not be the leaders seat, but someone others. KamikazeMatrix26Juni (talk) 22:33, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Results
Could someone post the preliminary results (make a subsection at the end of the article)? Both for the general and the regional elections that took place. --79.140.150.206 (talk) 22:47, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- There's no deadline (see WP:NODEADLINE); so that should absolutely wait until we at least have the complete preliminary results (there's still about 25 seats for which these are not available - notably the whole of Berlin (link here)). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 23:53, 26 September 2021 (UTC)