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Next PM
It might be a good idea to get the articles into shape of prospective successors to our current PM. The reason I'm saying that is that the successor will be featured on the Main Page in the ITN (in the news) section. There's already a discussion about posting an item about Ardern's foreshadowed resignation (consensus appears to be to wait until a successor has been chosen) and once we know who's in the top job, there will then be a discussion whether the target article is up to scratch. We might as well tidy things up now. Maintenance tags are a no no and uncited content isn't appreciated either. We have three front runners as far as I can see:
- Chris Hipkins – I've tidied that one up already
- Kiri Allan (looks a bit on the short side)
- Michael Wood
Anyone else who you think could be worth looking at? If anyone has time between now and Sunday, that would be a good task to attend to. Schwede66 20:43, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
Election infobox parameters removed
Just noticed that the election infobox template has had a few parameters deleted such as "leader's seat" and "leader since". Was anyone here aware of this? I sure wasn't! A consensus of about a dozen users removed information from the 27,000 pages that use these data parameters. I feel this is insufficient and would like users from projects like this one to actually have a say. Kiwichris (talk) 23:11, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
Citing the AJHR - opportunity for a new template ?
I have recently found a need to cite a source from the AJHR - Appendix to the Journal of the House of Representatives. I looked at a few existing articles that had cited AJHR, but thought that none of the examples I found were well presented. See Referendums in New Zealand, Mazengarb Report, History of education in New Zealand, Search and Surveillance Act 2012, Lyttelton Rail Tunnel, Eastern Line (Auckland).
I note that most of the 1860 to 1950 volumes of AJHR have been digitised and are available online (via Papers Past). Many NZ-related articles could possibly benefit from a citation directing readers to sources in the online versions of AJHR. Is there an opportunity here for a new template to standardise and improve the presentation of citations of AJHR, and at the same time, make it a bit easier for editors ? Do we have anyone we could ask to develop such a template ? Comments please. Marshelec (talk) 01:17, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- That would obviously make sense. Those templates are easy enough. New Zealand referencing templates include Template:DNZB (there's always a related documentation, in this case at Template:DNZB/doc), Template:LINZ, and Template:Macdonald Dictionary; those might be good starting points. It might be useful to know that when you talk to librarians about the AJHR, they all call it the "A to J". Schwede66 03:57, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Discussion at Wikipedia:Content assessment
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List candidate photos
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Please have a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/2023 list candidate photos. The page explains its purpose and it's a repeat of what we did for the 2020 election (which gained us a full set of photos of Labour candidates). Please discuss this here. I look forward to your thoughts. Naturally, there are a few things to do and any help would be much appreciated. Tasks to do:
- discuss the overall approach
- review (and edit) the draft open letter
- help with compiling contact email addresses for the parties
- email those parties
I shall go ahead and email the Greens and ACT, given that they have their lists published already. Schwede66 09:52, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Schwede66. Thanks for getting this started. I like how to-the-point the tone is and hope that it generates results. I see you have already sent the link out to two parties. My suggestions going forward would be to:
- break up the page/letter with some headings to make it easier to read;
- embed a screenshot of the relevant 2020 Main Page section as an image in the letter to make it easier for parties to see possible outcomes of participation; and
- make clearer the benefits for political parties who participate.
- Off the top of my head the latter would include assisting with voters' recognition of candidates and ensuring that those who are elected (who automatically qualify for having an article created about them) will have a recent photo on that page (and you could stress that Wikipedia articles about new MPs are posted usually the day after the election – they may not know). You may be able to think of others. —idiosyncritic 20:45, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
- Good ideas, Idiosyncritic. I'd say get cracking with implementing those suggestions; they are all good! Schwede66 21:47, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
- All done! Let me know your feedback or, of course, feel free to edit the page yourself :) —idiosyncritic 18:16, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- Looking splendid! Schwede66 18:59, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- Final update here; the main discussion happens at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/2023 list candidate photos. All parties have now been emailed. ACT has come back to us saying that they are in. Schwede66 06:16, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- Looking splendid! Schwede66 18:59, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- All done! Let me know your feedback or, of course, feel free to edit the page yourself :) —idiosyncritic 18:16, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- Good ideas, Idiosyncritic. I'd say get cracking with implementing those suggestions; they are all good! Schwede66 21:47, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
Incoming MPs
For the fourth time (I think), we are creating draft bios for all those election candidates who have a chance to be an MP after the general election. It needs more input; there are still many red links sitting there for likely MPs, and other drafts need more work.
It's not the done thing to start new bios in main space during the election campaign. There's little tolerance for promotional activities, and many an election campaign bio gets deleted. But we have a great process for that as we collaborate on writing bios in draft space and once it's clear who will enter parliament, we publish those who made it. Most of the time, we have all new MP bios published the morning after the election. The action happens at Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs. Schwede66 19:39, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Indicating when electorate maps in infoboxes are outdated
The infoboxes for some electorate articles have maps from 2014, but the boundaries have since changed. I can't figure out how to change the caption to indicate that it shows 2014 boundaries, not current ones. Of course, an up-to-date map would be even better. Examples: Ilam (New Zealand electorate) and Wigram (New Zealand electorate). Additionally, the current captions say, e.g., "Location of Ilam within Canterbury", when the map is actually of the South Island, not just Canterbury. But, at a minimum, we should indicate that they are 2014 maps. Nurg (talk) 23:33, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
- On a related note we are missing maps for at least some of the electorates created in 2020 (I haven't checked them all) - e.g. Taieri and Takanini. DrThneed (talk) 01:36, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- I have been meaning to update all the New Zealand electorate maps but have been very busy this month and haven't had a chance to be involved in the election updates at all as I intended (I was planning to automate the results updates as well). I can either generate line maps like they are now, or maybe slippy maps which will probably be easier to produce and more interactive and clear. Hopefully will get a chance in November! --Canley (talk) 07:27, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Some thoughts on Labour's list-only candidates
HTGS just added the following (uncited) content to the Adrian Rurawhe bio:
as speaker he is not contesting the electorate in the [[2023 New Zealand general election|2023 election]] and will likely return as a list MP.{{Efn|Rurawhe is placed 11 on Labour's list.}}
For starters, we should not be adding uncited content to bios. The bigger problem is, though, that it is nowhere near clear that Rurawhe will return via the Labour list. Newhub's Jenna Lynch reported on that on Monday without explaining why. What she meant was the following:
- Based on Monday's poll, Labour would get 33 MPs (Lynch did explain that)
- Suppose Labour wins 33 electorate seat; if so, nobody will come in via the list (that's the part that she didn't explain)
It's of course impossible to predict how many electorate contests will go Labour's way. Like in 2020, there are 72 electorates being contested. I would be surprised if Labour won as many as 33 of them, but if they do, none of their candidates would get in who contest the list only. The article party lists in the 2023 New Zealand general election shows who is standing on the list only. Starting at the top, we have:
- Grant Robertson (4)
- Ayesha Verrall (7)
- Willie Jackson (8)
- Adrian Rurawhe (11)
Hence, if Labour wins 33 electorates, all of the above are out. If they win 32 electorates, only Robertson gets in. If they win 31 electorates, Robertson and Verrall get in. For Rurawhe to get in, they can't win more than 28 electorates. I will thus remove the uncited part from the Rurawhe bio but thought I'd post about it here as this list-only vulnerability is a broader issue. Schwede66 22:04, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for that correction. You’re right, I was speculating, but of course speculating doesn’t work when you forget to actually go through the right steps too… — HTGS (talk) 23:47, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
1958 Clutha by-election?
Should we turn this section into a standalone by-election article? I'm wondering because:
- pro: it was the same situation that triggered the 2023 Port Waikato by-election
- against: in all the media reporting (only The Press is online for that period, though), it is only once referred to as a "by-election"; in all other cases, it's referred to as the "Clutha election"
- neutral: In the New Zealand Parliamentary Record: 1840–1984 (Wilson, 1985), by-elections aren't specifically listed and given that 1958 was within James Roy's continuous 25-year service, this election isn't specifically mentioned.
- neutral: The First 50 Years: A History of the New Zealand National Party (Gustafson, 1986) makes no mention of this election.
Any thoughts? Schwede66 21:55, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- I tried to find it in McRobie's Electoral Atlas ... but I can't find it (my copy of the book I mean, it seems to have mislaid itself). But in working [years ago] on by-election articles the fact that we didn't consider this then suggests that it's not in the Electoral Atlas either. I'd suggest that both Clutha 1958 and Port Waikato 2023 by-election pages have a place - as Redirects only.
- Fanx (talk) 02:07, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- p. 104 of the Electoral Atlas has a footnote:
- Election held 18 January 1958 following death of candidate after nominations had closed ... and no mention of it being a by-election.
- In both cases the deaths were of another candidate other than the sitting candidate, and in both cases the sitting candidate was returned to parliament (Bayly is already elected as a list candidate regardless of the fact the delayed Port Waikato contest has not yet taken place). This election fails definition as a by-election on several points - no death of a current sitting member, no disqualification of a sitting member, no declaration of the original election being void. Fanx (talk) 03:08, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- I've had a look at the Electoral Act 1993. It says in section 153E "New election to be held if writ vacated":
- (2) On receiving notification under subsection (1), the Governor-General must, without delay, issue a writ for a fresh election in that district, and that election must be conducted as if it were a by-election unless this Act provides otherwise.
- Hence, what's currently happening in Port Waikato is, strictly speaking, not a by-election. Although everyone calls it that, and given that we follow WP:COMMONNAME, it's certainly not wrong to have it titled 2023 Port Waikato by-election. And I'm glad that you managed to find your copy of McRobie, Fanx. Schwede66 03:55, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- "given that we follow WP:COMMONNAME, it's certainly not wrong to have it titled 2023 Port Waikato by-election"
- Sure, we/you/anyone can add "aka Foo by-election", but I don't feel that earns it a place in list of by-elections, or as a named article. Looking at the act (or parts of it) it seems that the lock-in of the existing voter register to that of the general election is a defining point too. Fanx (talk) 22:08, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- "And I'm glad that you managed to find your copy of McRobie"
- Thanks. I held off replying to this for several days because I couldn't lay my hands on the reference ... eventually I decided I wasn't going to find it, so commented anyway.
- ... then an unexpected visitor caused me to look for something else - and I found McRobie instead. TMI ... probably. Fanx (talk) 22:14, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- A bit late to this, but agree that it wasn't a by-election. The Press isn't alone in not describing the Clutha situation as one, the 2 December 1957 issue of the NZ Herald doesn't use the term by-election when explaining why no poll was held in that electorate. Likewise the book New Zealand Parliamentary Election Results 1946-1987 specifically marks by-elections in the result pages, but does not mark Clutha as having a by-election, it just has a note that the election was postponed until January. Kiwichris (talk) 06:43, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
2023 post-election to do items
I thought it to be a good idea to document what needs work and what has been done. Anyone can add to do lists here.
I'm working my way through Template:Members of the New Zealand House of Representatives and its sub-templates. Have a look how I've laid out the main template for the time being, indicated New Zealand First as a "potential kingmaker". All current MP bios should have this template, plus their respective party template (e.g. in case of NZF, that would be Template:New Zealand First). I'll add those templates to the bios as I go through. Schwede66 00:25, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
- A small change for someone is to put the Results of the 2023 New Zealand general election and 2023 New Zealand general election#Results into a template like what was done in 2020. I haven't been able to figure out how to do this. —Panamitsu (talk) 02:21, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
Parliament templates
Done Template:Members of the New Zealand House of Representatives
Done Template:New Zealand National Party MPs
Done Template:ACT New Zealand MPs
Done Template:New Zealand First MPs
Done Template:New Zealand Labour Party MPs
Done Template:Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand MPs
Done Template:Māori Party MPs
Party templates
Done Template:NZ National Party
Done Template:ACT New Zealand
Done Template:New Zealand First
Done Template:New Zealand Labour Party
Done Template:NZ Green Party
Done Template:Māori Party
Articles on MPs in the previous parliament
Ensure all MPs elected in 2020 have their articles updated to show what happened to them in 2023: re-election, loss of seat, or chose not to run. —HenryCrun15 (talk • contribs) 00:17, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- National Party MPs
Done ACT MPs- Labour MPs
- Green MPs
Done TP Māori MPs
Final results (due 3 November 2023)
Final election results are expected to be released by the Electoral Commission this Friday afternoon. I thought it might be worthwhile to see what might happen, and whether there's anything that we could prepare. In previous elections, the special votes have favoured the political left for whatever reason, so it's most reasonable to check those parties first. Is there anyone who might gain a seat? If so, do we have a published bio yet, or is there a bio draft in project space?
- Te Pāti Māori:
- They've already got an overhang seat (i.e. they won more electorates than the party vote entitled them to), so any further party vote gain won't make any difference.
- Two Māori electorates are close, though, with Labour being ahead by just under 500 votes in Tāmaki Makaurau (Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs/Takutai Moana Kemp) and Te Tai Tokerau (Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs/Mariameno Kapa-Kingi). Both those bio drafts could do with expansion, but at least we've got something.
- Labour:
- Apart from the Māori electorates discussed above, there are five general electorates with less than 500 votes between first and second comers. Four are currently held by National and one by Labour. If the second-placed candidate manages to flip the results, there isn't a direct impact as all those people have bios already. However, this may make a difference to who gets in from the list, of course.
- If Helen White loses her seat, Glen Bennett would get in, but he's got an article already.
- If Labour gets a higher share of the party vote, then Bennett would get in, followed by Vanushi Walters.
- It's not likely that we need to prep ourselves for the next person on their list who hasn't got a live bio yet. Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs/Georgie Dansey is that person, and her draft bio is in good shape anyway, so no action needed.
- Greens:
- Next on the list is Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs/Kahurangi Carter and that draft bio needs work.
- National:
- Any of the four who hold their electorate with less than 500 votes sit down much further on the list than what guarantees entry into parliament. That is, if any of them loses, that will trigger Nancy Lu in list position 20 to be returned. Her draft bio is ready to go.
- Beyond that, we would need three losses before we get to a person not already in parliament: Emma Chatterton. Her draft bio needs a little bit more work.
- ACT:
- Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs/Antonia Modkova is the next one on the ACT list. That draft bio needs work.
- NZFirst:
- Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs/David Wilson (New Zealand First politician) is the next one on the NZFirst list. That draft bio needs work.
I hope that's helpful in case anyone has spare capacity. Schwede66 00:07, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
Electorates
I've cast my eye over the 72 electorate articles and have produced the table below to confirm what still needs doing. Some notes go with that:
- Regarding the 2023 results table, I have inspected whether the results are final or preliminary; if the latter, that needs updating, of course. All I've identified is whether there is a table for the latest election.
- We aren't really that good at adding to the history part of the articles with who won the latest election.
- With regards to the infobox, it should list the electorate MP and any list MPs who had contested the electorate and made it in via the list. Whilst the former is up to date, some list MPs are missing.
- Only Takanini needs to have a table added for list MPs.
Please amend the table below when something's been completed. Schwede66 23:51, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
| Electorate | 2023 results table | prose amended | ibox updated | MP and list MP tables updated |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Auckland Central | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Bay of Plenty | yes | no | no | yes |
| Botany | yes | no | no | yes |
| Coromandel | yes | no | yes | yes |
| East Coast | yes | no | no | yes |
| East Coast Bays | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Epsom | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Hamilton East | no | no | yes | yes |
| Hamilton West | no | no | yes | yes |
| Hutt South | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Kaipara ki Mahurangi | no | no | no | yes |
| Kelston | yes | no | no | yes |
| Mana | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Māngere | no | no | yes | yes |
| Manurewa | no | no | yes | yes |
| Maungakiekie | no | no | yes | yes |
| Mount Albert | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Mount Roskill | yes | citation needed | yes | yes |
| Napier | yes | no | yes | yes |
| New Lynn | yes | no | no | yes |
| New Plymouth | no | no | yes | yes |
| North Shore | no | no | yes | yes |
| Northcote | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Northland | yes | yes | yes | yes |
| Ōhāriu | yes | no | no | yes |
| Ōtaki | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Pakuranga | yes | no | no | yes |
| Palmerston North | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Panmure-Ōtāhuhu | no | no | no | yes |
| Papakura | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Port Waikato | yes | yes | yes | yes |
| Rangitīkei | yes | no | no | yes |
| Remutaka | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Rongotai | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Rotorua | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Takanini | yes | no | no | no |
| Tāmaki | yes | citation needed | yes | yes |
| Taranaki-King Country | no | no | yes | yes |
| Taupō | no | no | yes | yes |
| Tauranga | no | no | no | yes |
| Te Atatū | no | no | no | yes |
| Tukituki | no | no | yes | yes |
| Upper Harbour | no | no | yes | yes |
| Waikato | no | no | yes | yes |
| Wairarapa | yes | citation needed | no | yes |
| Wellington Central | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Whanganui | no | no | yes | yes |
| Whangaparāoa | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Whangārei | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Banks Peninsula | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Christchurch Central | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Christchurch East | no | yes | yes | yes |
| Dunedin | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Ilam | party votes do not match source | no | yes | yes |
| Invercargill | no | no | yes | yes |
| Kaikōura | no | no | no | yes |
| Nelson | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Rangitata | no | no | no | yes |
| Selwyn | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Southland | no | no | no | yes |
| Taieri | no | no | no | yes |
| Waimakariri | no | no | yes | yes |
| Waitaki | no | yes | yes | yes |
| West Coast-Tasman | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Wigram | no | no | yes | yes |
| Hauraki-Waikato | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Ikaroa-Rāwhiti | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Tāmaki Makaurau | no | no | yes | yes |
| Te Tai Hauāuru | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Te Tai Tokerau | yes | no | no | yes |
| Te Tai Tonga | yes | no | yes | yes |
| Waiariki | yes | no | yes | yes |
- I believe the Electoral Commission is releasing the detailed results downloads on Monday 27 November—when they do, I can use my election data scripts to output the final tables for each electorate. --Canley (talk) 23:51, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
- You have a script for that? 😮 Schwede66 00:23, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- Do you have any update on that, @Canley? Just wondering as I was looking at perhaps updating an electorate or two, but if that can be automatised or you could create a script for that, that'd be brilliant. JaumeBG (talk) 07:49, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, have been really busy and had some technical issues (for some reason the Electoral Commission has CloudFlare), but I've managed to download the data and will try and get the script running this weekend. --Canley (talk) 11:55, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
National Party photos
The photos have now been undeleted after licensing has been sorted out. See c:category:National Party candidates for 2023 New Zealand general election. Crops need to be created and photos added to various articles. There’s lots to do! I’ll have another go at hitting up ACT and NZ First. Schwede66 16:13, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
- I've done the following:
- created a Commons category for every candidate
- cropped the photos
- added the crop to Wikidata and WP
- added the crop to Party lists in the 2023 New Zealand general election#National Party
- Schwede66 08:49, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
Did you know...

As per the last few elections, we are planning on having a mass-DYK nomination for new MPs. Those bios that are new need to have at least 1500 bytes of readable prose and then they qualify. There are 32 new MPs with new bios, and we have to nominate by next Saturday. Until then, we have time to expand some more so that they qualify. So far, we have six 17 bios ready; they are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs#List of new candidate bios for DYK. I'd be keen to have every party represented; currently we have:
- 2 from ACT (out of 3 new bios)
- 2 from the Greens (out of 2 new bios)
- 2 from Labour (out of 2 new bios)
- 2 from Te Pāti Māori (out of 2 new bios)
- 17 from National (out of 20 new bios)
- 3 from NZ First (out of 3 new bios)
If you manage to expand a bio, head over to the other page and mark it with a tick. Thanks, team. Any questions, please ask. I suggest that we should try and have bios for the four candidates for whom we have photos (1 done already), so please concentrate on:
In 2020, we produced a collage of the nine photos that we had; it looked really cool. Schwede66 04:03, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
Lcmortensen — Kiwiz1338 — Giantflightlessbirds — Ambrosia10 — Einebillion — MurielMary — Pakoire — Noracrentiss — J947 — Andykatib:
YttriumShrew — Kiwipete — Gadfium — Hazhk — Prosperosity — Adabow — idiosyncritic — Paora — NZFC — Fanx:
Kiwichris — Nixinova — Chocmilk03 — Marshelec — SimonLyall — Mattlore: There's great work going on updating all sorts of articles and templates. Well done, team. Can I encourage everyone for the next few days to focus on adding to the bios of new MPs, though? DrThneed and I will be doing a mass-nomination at DYK (see last election's example above) and Saturday is the last day for nominating everything. Find the list of bios to work on here. Currently, we have 13 articles in good shape ready for nomination; I'd like to exceed the number of articles we had last time. I shall once more write to ACT, NZF, National, and TPM to see whether they can make photos available. Schwede66 04:47, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Schwede66:, thanks for the reminder. Will try and find time over the next few days. Have been a bit preoccupied with other things but will try and find the time. Andykatib (talk) 06:03, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- Fabulous work team! I've got my second bout of of COVID so am not being as productive as I'd hoped, but doing some bits and pieces here and there from the couch. Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 02:38, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Feel better soon @Chocmilk03! Your contributions are appreciated but make sure you are resting enough. DrThneed (talk) 04:04, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- This is going great. Only four more bios to do and then we've done all the winners (based on the preliminary results).
- All bios now meet the DYK requirements. Schwede66 22:19, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Nomination of Women's Rights Party article for deletion
For anyone interested there is a discussion taking place as to whether the article Women's Rights Party is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Check Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Women's Rights Party if so. Kiwichris (talk) 06:26, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
Francisco Hernandez
Input is needed at Talk:Francisco Hernandez (politician); please comment there to keep the discussion in one place. Schwede66 13:29, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Now at Draft talk:Francisco Hernandez (politician). Not one of the finest moments of User:Villian Factman. Schwede66 23:26, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
Angie Warren Birthplace and Birthplace
@Pokelova @Schwede66. Hello, I have added Angie Warren-Clark birthdate as 16 June 1971 because I have heard it while I am watching Parliament TV, plus I have more info from the 10 October 2017 article on Northern Advocate that she was born in Murupara but moved to Northland at the very young age. Villian Factman (talk) 07:34, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Benjamin Doyle
Now that Francisco Hernandez has become an MP, I suggest we better get onto Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs/Benjamin Doyle. They are the next one on the list. Should Darleen Tana resign or get pushed, they would be offered the position. Schwede66 09:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, Tana is being pushed. Anybody got time to work on Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs/Benjamin Doyle? Schwede66 03:55, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Infobox New Zealand electorate
I think the currently-used generic {{Infobox constituency}} is a bit lackluster (its even got a formatting error baked in). I started trying to create a new template at User:TheLoyalOrder/Infobox New Zealand electorate (see User:TheLoyalOrder/SandierBox for an example of it in use). Wanted to get people's thoughts on what to include, etc. TheLoyalOrder (talk) 06:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- for posterity, this template was created, Template:Infobox New Zealand electorate TheLoyalOrder (talk) 03:14, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:NewLabour Party (New Zealand)#Requested move 28 May 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:NewLabour Party (New Zealand)#Requested move 28 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Waipareira#Requested move 23 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Waipareira#Requested move 23 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Reading Beans 15:22, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
1996 Ohariu-Belmont election results
Ohariu-Belmont (New Zealand electorate) is missing its 1996 election results. I'm not really familiar with making the tables for election results, but would someone be able to add them in? The 1996 election results can be found here. Neljack (talk) 00:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- There's lots of results missing from the early MMP elections. Is there a task force somewhere for these to be updated and checked off? Ajf773 (talk) 00:17, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- This group is the task force! Schwede66 01:31, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Tasks can be added to the task list on the attached page – Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics. Nurg (talk) 01:40, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- This group is the task force! Schwede66 01:31, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
RFC on election infoboxes
An RFC has been started here suggesting a change to NZ election infoboxes using MMP to use conventions used in Europe rather than the ones actually used in NZ. Put your two cents in if you wish. Kiwichris (talk) 00:34, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Bios for political candidates
We once had a discussion about bios for political candidates. From memory, we came to the conclusion that half a year out from an election, we (members of this group) won't be producing new bios for those who stand for election. By all means, let's write something in draft space and publish it after the election.
That means, with the 2025 local elections pretty much exactly six months away, we shouldn't be putting new candidate bios into mainspace (but if you really want to, do so before 11 April to adhere to the 6 months stand down period). Schwede66 01:02, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Local elections
Kia ora, currently local election article are a bit all over the place. Category:Local elections in New Zealand
I think there are two options we could go for; Should we have an article for each council or group councils by region? Looking at other countries article they do tend to just have an article for each council, though in NZ previous years have had by region though this isnt consistent. @Radicuil I'll tag you since I've seen you creating new articles re:this so I assume you have a view.
I think if we go for the per council model we should change the article names from YYYY <place> local elections to YYY <place> Council election TheLoyalOrder (talk) 21:57, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for all your good work on the local elections. Noticed and appreciated. Grouping results by region does not make sense to me, as some districts are split across more than one region. Taupō District Council is the worst of those, being covered by four regions. And whilst some may argue that the vast majority is covered by one of those regions, it's much less clear what to do with Waitaki District Council. To my mind, YYY <place> Council election is the way to go. Schwede66 22:53, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- The vast bulk of the population of Waitaki District live in the Otago Region, and the entire district is in the historic Otago Province, so if the District has to be categorised into one Region, then Otago would make sense. Daveosaurus (talk) 23:42, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Sure. But if we agree to publish results by district, then those issues would not need to be considered. Schwede66 23:56, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- The vast bulk of the population of Waitaki District live in the Otago Region, and the entire district is in the historic Otago Province, so if the District has to be categorised into one Region, then Otago would make sense. Daveosaurus (talk) 23:42, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- My two cents since you've specially asked me for comment:
- I agree that we should probably have a consistent way that we approach pages for the local elections, at least going forward. It hasn't been consistent in the past, with the pages for the 2022 local elections being a mix of per region (e.g. 2022 Wellington local elections, 2022 Northland local elections & 2022 Hawke's Bay local elections) and per council (e.g. 2022 Christchurch local elections, 2022 Otago Regional Council election & 2022 Dunedin local elections), and the pages for e.g. the Wellington elections switching between covering the city of Wellington and the Wellington region.
- Personally, I prefer having the articles per council (hence the approach I took when creating the pages for this year's elections). Both because, as Schwede66 pointed out, not all districts fit neatly into regions (e.g. Taupō, Rotorua, etc.), and also because I find pages such as 2022 Wellington local elections to be overly cluttered.
- However, I also don't think we should be creating 70+ pages for the local elections every 3 years. I don't think the majority of council's local elections will be notable enough to be including by default. So, that's why I have stuck to just creating pages for the councils covering the main urban areas per the list of functional urban areas on List of cities in New Zealand. I found it a bit weird that for previous elections we had few or no pages for main centres like Christchurch, Dunedin, Hamilton & Palmy, but we have several pages for Rangitikei elections (no shade intended to the person who created those pages).
- I am not planning at this stage to create any further pages for this year's elections, though obviously anyone else is free to create any other pages they feel are necessary.
- As for your suggestion to change the names of the pages to YYY <place> Council election, I have no strong opinion about that.-Radicuil (talk) 05:31, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, notability. I didn't comment on that aspect. I would expect that local elections generate enough attention that they notability could always be demonstrated. But if we were to create 70 pages, we'd probably have a good few amongst them where referencing wasn't up to scratch. Hence, my preference is to not aim for a complete set, but to do it properly for those articles that we do create. Schwede66 05:44, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- I remember a while back (maybe last year or year before), I went through all these articles to catsort by district, as it was even worse back then. I'm even more supportive of sub-categories as described, similar to the ones that already exist for mayoral elections. Ajf773 (talk) 09:52, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
COAs vs shields for local government pages
Recently a large number of local election pages had the coat of arms swapped to shields only (like here for example). The rationale given was to be consistent with the other election pages using arms. I find this rather bemusing as shields have only popped up recently and are in fact inconsistent with the precedent of using COAs. In some cases only shields are available to use due to copyright so using them in that instance makes sense. However where a full COA is available to use I feel it should be used. Not only is it more complete but is in line with the current consensus. Kiwichris (talk) 09:53, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think there's a proper consensus that's been established either way. the shields look better imo, the full achievements don't work well at that scale. TheLoyalOrder (talk) 10:09, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
Tanya Unkovich successor
It might be a good idea to expand Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs/David Wilson (New Zealand First politician), given that he's next on the list. Of course, he has to accept the position, and Winston needs to be happy with him being the one (candidates have been omitted before). I suggest, though, that the article NOT be moved to mainspace unless the appointment is confirmed, as Wilson isn't otherwise notable. Schwede66 05:14, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Has he been sworn in yet? I can't find any source for it yet the page has gone live and claims he became an MP on 30 June. I didn't think the house sat on a Monday. Kiwichris (talk) 06:02, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- The Gazette has a notice dated today declaring the vacancy, but as yet there doesn't appear to be a notice that the vacancy has been filled.-Radicuil (talk) 06:14, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- I saw in an edit summary by a reputable editor somewhere that he had been declared elected. I assumed that was correct without checking myself. Schwede66 07:45, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Scratch what I said before - don't know if I just missed it, or if it popped up since I looked, but here is the notice that the vacancy has been filled.-Radicuil (talk) 08:27, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- I saw in an edit summary by a reputable editor somewhere that he had been declared elected. I assumed that was correct without checking myself. Schwede66 07:45, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- The Gazette has a notice dated today declaring the vacancy, but as yet there doesn't appear to be a notice that the vacancy has been filled.-Radicuil (talk) 06:14, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
local boards discussion
There's a discussion at Talk:2022 Auckland Council election#Merging local board elections about how to handle local boards if anyone hadn't seen it TheLoyalOrder (talk) 03:31, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
Navbox for 2025 local elections?
I'm wondering whether we should have a navbox for this year's local elections? If yes, the thoughts that I have are the following:
- create navbox containing all districts and cities, linking to the local election
- what we've got to decide is whether we have redlinks for all missing articles, or hide all the missing entries, or have selected redlinks (if we can think of suitable inclusion criteria)
- where we also have an article for a mayoral election, show that in brackets after the district/cite link
Thoughts? Schwede66 08:37, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- yeah could be good. I think just include links to articles that exist TheLoyalOrder (talk) 08:54, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- i mocked up a version on a userpage TheLoyalOrder (talk) 09:36, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Looking sharp! I would have slotted Auckland under city; why is it under other? Schwede66 19:05, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- its not a city council, it is its only special thing TheLoyalOrder (talk) 20:41, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- I feel that's a bit pedantic. Auckland is a city, a "supercity" if you will, so it should be included under the city heading even if its council isn't styled as a city council.
- Also, it might be good to indicate somehow that this isn't an exhaustive list. Unfortunately at the moment I'm not sure what the best way to do that would be.-118.149.82.198 (talk) 22:19, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- like this maybe? TheLoyalOrder (talk) 01:05, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- arguably Auckland Council is more like a district than a city, district councils are usually main centre+rural surroundings, city councils are usually mainly just the urban parts - Auckland has the urban areas and a decent amount of rural areas. I don't see a reason to put it inaccurately in either city/district group TheLoyalOrder (talk) 01:08, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Wellington City Council covers rural areas like Mākara, and that's still considered a city. I'm sure there are similar situations for other so-called "city" councils as well.-118.149.82.198 (talk) 03:33, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- The other option could be to separate it per unitary authorities (e.g. Auckland), regions & the non-unitary territories.-118.149.82.198 (talk) 03:37, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Wellington City Council covers rural areas like Mākara, and that's still considered a city. I'm sure there are similar situations for other so-called "city" councils as well.-118.149.82.198 (talk) 03:33, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- its not a city council, it is its only special thing TheLoyalOrder (talk) 20:41, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- I agree it looks good, but I'm not sure if we should be using "election orange" for the colour scheme. The Electoral Commission does not allow political parties to use colours which might mislead or confuse voters (e.g.[1]), and although we are not a political party we don't want to give the impression that this is official information.-Gadfium (talk) 21:26, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- here's a version with just the default colour TheLoyalOrder (talk) 21:45, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Looking sharp! I would have slotted Auckland under city; why is it under other? Schwede66 19:05, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- i mocked up a version on a userpage TheLoyalOrder (talk) 09:36, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Two options that I'd like to put forward for consideration:
- Either, put Auckland among the cities, or
- Have a separate group for unitary authorities (which includes Auckland)
Schwede66 02:35, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- maybe just combine local councils together TheLoyalOrder (talk) 03:24, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- sorted by population version TheLoyalOrder (talk) 03:42, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- version with a divide for north/south island TheLoyalOrder (talk) 04:01, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- sorted by population version TheLoyalOrder (talk) 03:42, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oops, didn't see this when I made the same suggestion above.-118.149.82.198 (talk) 03:39, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'd like to see local referendums included, perhaps in the bottom line with the Candidates link. You're doing a great job and being very responsive to ideas; sorry if this is a lot more feedback from all of us than you were expecting.-Gadfium (talk) 04:29, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- that version here TheLoyalOrder (talk) 04:47, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- I like this version. Kiwichris (talk) 05:05, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- that version here TheLoyalOrder (talk) 04:47, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
Smaller font sizes in a navbox does not comply with MOS:FONTSIZE. Nurg (talk) 05:16, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- what about this TheLoyalOrder (talk) 05:22, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- or this version TheLoyalOrder (talk) 05:25, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, font sizes look ok now. Nurg (talk) 08:18, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- This looks really good. Definitely go ahead with it. JaumeBG (talk) 08:23, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- I think it's perfect! Schwede66 08:25, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- or this version TheLoyalOrder (talk) 05:25, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
independent candidate colours local elections
Kia ora, was reading some talk pages when I discovered that the Canadians put the campaign colours in the infobox for independent mayoral candidates (See 2022 Hamilton, Ontario, municipal election as an example), thoughts on whether we should do this? TheLoyalOrder (talk) 08:17, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- ig it could also apply to the lists of candidates TheLoyalOrder (talk) 08:18, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- just commenting again so watchlists update since no one responded TheLoyalOrder (talk) 00:01, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Radicuil hey on the colours i was adding it was related to this, i had asked here but no one responded to so i just started doing it. i figured it might be confusing though if someone had an affiliation that was a slogan but could be some group so thought the way i started doing it worked alright. there's an alternative idea at 2025 Auckland mayoral election. thoughts? TheLoyalOrder (talk) 10:11, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, I hadn't seen this before. I understand the desire to add colours, given that all the grey for the independent candidates isn't exactly the most aesthetically pleasing - especially for something like election result maps for independents vs independents which use grey on grey. However, I also don't think we should be adding things for merely aesthetic reasons. I think that if you want to add colours for the independent candidates, it would be good to indicate somewhere where that choice of colour is coming from - particularly since some colours (for better or for worse) have already built-in political associations.
- In terms of where the best place to put such colours: I don't see why they couldn't just go in the affiliation column. If the candidate is a declared independent we can still say that. I'm not aware of any rule that says independents have to be indicated with grey.-Radicuil (talk) 10:38, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Radicuil hey on the colours i was adding it was related to this, i had asked here but no one responded to so i just started doing it. i figured it might be confusing though if someone had an affiliation that was a slogan but could be some group so thought the way i started doing it worked alright. there's an alternative idea at 2025 Auckland mayoral election. thoughts? TheLoyalOrder (talk) 10:11, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- just commenting again so watchlists update since no one responded TheLoyalOrder (talk) 00:01, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
source of map info
Anyone able to find the source of mayoral results by ward this map uses? Google isn't turning it up for me File:2022 Christchurch Mayoral Election results.svg TheLoyalOrder (talk) 02:45, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Appendix 1 of 2022 Christchurch City Council Triennial Elections appears to contain such info. I don't know if that is the source used. If it checks out, I recommend adding the link to the file page on Commons. Nurg (talk) 05:30, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- oh ka pai thanks TheLoyalOrder (talk) 06:13, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
discussion re:layout of elections on Talk:2022 Wellington City Council election
would be interested in other opinions thanks Talk:2022 Wellington City Council election TheLoyalOrder (talk) 03:40, 24 July 2025 (UTC)
Request to merge a parlbox into an infobox
Captain Joseph Greenwood was a serving officer of the 31st Regiment of Foot, Brigade Major, when nominated for and elected to the House of Representatives representing Pensioner Settlements in Auckland, 1857 to 1857. In respect of his military office and life occupation, an infobox military person was recently introduced to his biography page. In consequence of a double-up of header and footer parlboxes and the awkwardness of two competing header boxes, the content of the parlbox header was respectfully integrated into the infobox military person on 28 July 2025. This revision was undid. Schwede66 has requested: "before we merge parlboxes into infoboxes, can we please obtain consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Zealand/politics first?" Consensus to merge a parlbox into an infobox, particularly in this instance, is hereby requested.PH AKL (talk) 23:13, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- Context here to save people searching it up. Nil🥝Talk 23:29, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not convinced that this would be a good move. Since December 2012, all New Zealand MP articles have had a parlbox. I'd need to be convinced why this one article needs to be the exception. I suggest that the parlbox should be shifted to a more sensible location within the article. In fact, why don't I do just that? Will that address some of your concern, PH AKL? Schwede66 08:28, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
- Shift of location is a good idea. Thank you.PH AKL (talk) 20:54, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
lots of page moves re:wellington mayoral elections
any quick way to move all the YYYY Wellington City mayoral election pages to YYYY Wellington mayoral election per the move discussion on Talk:2025 Wellington mayoral election? TheLoyalOrder (talk) 22:32, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
- If there isn't, I'm happy to do it manually. ―Panamitsu (talk) 23:21, 29 July 2025 (UTC)
- What do you mean? Are you talking about moving all the pages, or fixing up the resulting redirects? For the former, there isn't an automated way that I know of. The latter doesn't really need attention, but could be done via AutoWikiBrowser. Schwede66 04:23, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- Meanwhile, I've moved all the pages that fall under the triennial term. Most of them have a redirect with edit history in the way. I have a little tool installed that executes round-robin swaps. Without that tool, doing the round-robin swaps would be a major pain. Panamitsu, if you want to take over from here, do you have that tool? Schwede66 05:52, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- thanks @Schwede66 TheLoyalOrder (talk) 06:34, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- Done. That was really fun. I don't think I had done a round-robin move before. ―Panamitsu (talk) 07:13, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- Meanwhile, I've moved all the pages that fall under the triennial term. Most of them have a redirect with edit history in the way. I have a little tool installed that executes round-robin swaps. Without that tool, doing the round-robin swaps would be a major pain. Panamitsu, if you want to take over from here, do you have that tool? Schwede66 05:52, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:New Munster Province#Requested move 17 July 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:New Munster Province#Requested move 17 July 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 10:59, 31 July 2025 (UTC)
New Electorates and Boundaries released for 2026 election
See the main report for an overview
One few North Island electorate. Lots of Boundary changes and a few name changes.
https://elections.nz/democracy-in-nz/historical-events/boundary-review-2025/report-of-the-representation-commission-2025/ SimonLyall (talk) 02:23, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. I'm really surprised about the naming of the new Mt Maunganui electorate, given that the official name of the suburb is Mount Maunganui. Schwede66 04:08, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
Local elections

One of the annoying things about (local) elections is that the vast majority of billboards contain content that is subject to copyright, hence it can't be used. As a good Wikipedian, I've uploaded the source files for my billboard to Commons, hence this can be used to illustrate articles if you wish. To not give the impression of favouritism or anything like that, you may wish to wait until the election is over. Either way, I'll leave it to others to do anything with this file. Schwede66 22:23, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
Mike Davidson
Kia ora, with the resignation of Benjamin Doyle, it looks like Mike Davidson will be elected to parliament as the next person on the Green party list. I know Mike personally so I cannot directly contribute an article. However I have started a draft and would like someone else to help to avoid the CoI.
It is additionally awkward because he is running for the Innes community board as well, which would appear to violate the policy of not making articles for people within 6 months of an election. But as he is off to parliament it seems appropriate we make an exception. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 07:19, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- If/when it's confirmed that he is Doyle's replacement he'll be independently notable as an MP so I don't see it either being a policy violation or setting any significant precedent as an exception. If anything it may be an idea for anyone next in line on a successful party list who doesn't already have an article, to have a draft sitting somewhere ready to go live if anyone else retires from Parliament. Daveosaurus (talk) 07:28, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- We already have a draft at Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs/Mike Davidson, so the two drafts need to be merged.-Gadfium (talk) 09:25, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- I know Mike quite well, hence I can’t help. Schwede66 15:00, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- You might want to add that his father was married to Lianne Dalziel, which is rather relevant. He thus served on the city council while his mother-in-law was the mayor. Schwede66 15:05, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Didn’t know there was another place for these drafts. I can take a look at merging them later but I’d rather keep my involvement minimal. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 21:15, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- The politics group always has drafts for people who have a chance of getting into parliament. We’ve done that for well over a decade. Schwede66 21:46, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
- Gadfium, Draft:Mike Davidson (New Zealand politician) has now been merged into the older draft that has been moved into main space: Mike Davidson (politician)
- Any idea what the correct procedure is for keeping the attribution of the former? If we do a straight history merge, the newer draft will sit in between all the edits of what is now in mainspace. Schwede66 06:38, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- I haven't encountered this situation before. I suggest a talk page note giving attribution to cloventt from the to-be-deleted draft article.-Gadfium (talk) 09:14, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, yes, that makes sense. I'll action that. Schwede66 09:33, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- I haven't encountered this situation before. I suggest a talk page note giving attribution to cloventt from the to-be-deleted draft article.-Gadfium (talk) 09:14, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
Electorates
Why do all the electorate articles have "New Zealand electorate" instead of just "electorate" as the disambiguators, such as Wellington Bays (New Zealand electorate)? Why not just Wellington Bays (electorate)? See Category:New Zealand electorates. I've noticed that the electorate articles for the Cook Islands just have "(electorate)" as the disambiguator, such as Ngatangiia (electorate) (except for Overseas (Cook Islands electorate). See Category:Cook Islands electorates. Should we shorten the disambiguator or keep them as they are now? ―Panamitsu (talk) 07:04, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- yeah support moving to just electorate where there isn't a conflict with somewhere else in the world TheLoyalOrder (talk) 07:12, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Well, there's previously been a discussion about moving all NZ electorate articles to have (New Zealand electorate) as a disambiguator, even if it's not needed, to mirror the British naming conventions. Hence, this wouldn't be uncontroversial, and should be resolved through a formal move request. Schwede66 10:13, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
Henry Otterson
We have had a request for assistance from Henry Otterson's grandson David (who is coming up to 94) to create a page for Henry Otterson, who was Clerk of the House of Representatives from 1898 to 1915. If anyone is interested in assisting, please let Dianne know on info[at]wikimedia.nz and I will forward the email information and his draft. David has said he is able to provide citations. CopperAlchemy (talk) 03:43, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
New mayors
As results from today's local body election come in, I'm updating the "Mayor of ..." articles to change the incumbent's status from "-present" to "-2025" if they did not stand for office, or if the results are pretty overwhelming for another candidate. At what point should I add the new mayor's details? - I would expect the official provisional results, which I believe are due on Monday, would be adequate, but if the provisional results are very close, should I wait for the final results? Most conservatively, should I wait until the new mayors are sworn in, which might be difficult because there won't be much media coverage of that. At the same time as I (or anyone else) updates the "Mayor of ..." articles for a new mayor, I'll also update {{NZ officeholder data}} and include a ref in both places.-Gadfium (talk) 03:03, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- I suppose that outgoing mayors will retain their mayoralties for a few more days. Hence, changing the articles to "-2025" is appropriate, but we should not show the new mayors just yet. Provisional results are due tomorrow (Sunday), but final results won't come out until about Friday. Schwede66 03:06, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- yeah they're officially mayor when the final results are announced so hold off to then. I'll update the Mayors in New Zealand article after that point TheLoyalOrder (talk) 03:12, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- Someone already updated the Wellington mayoral results, so I've added a hat note saying
Note: The section below shows the progress results released on 11 October 2025. The final official results will be released 16–22 October.but unsure if that's the most appropriate course of action, or if we should be holding off completely until the provisionals are released? Nil🥝 03:18, 11 October 2025 (UTC)- I think a hatnote for the mayoral articles is a good idea. I've just reverted an eager editor who had changed the Selwyn mayor... Schwede66 03:36, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- They take office (and incumbents leave office) at midnight after the final results are announced. (Interestingly, they cannot make official decisions between taking office and being sworn in, which may be around two weeks later.) For details, see Local elections in New Zealand#Term of office. In July I fixed several articles that had incorrect start or finish dates for mayors. There are probably a number of other articles that still have dates that are incorrectly either provisional results (too early) or swearing-in dates (too late). Nurg (talk) 04:20, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've made a template and tagged a number of articles. Come Saturday (or thereabouts), the templates need to be removed again. Schwede66 07:23, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Someone already updated the Wellington mayoral results, so I've added a hat note saying
- yeah they're officially mayor when the final results are announced so hold off to then. I'll update the Mayors in New Zealand article after that point TheLoyalOrder (talk) 03:12, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
Jim Bolger RD
There is a current recent deaths nomination of Jim Bolger here. Have your say on the article and its nomination. Kiwichris (talk) 23:35, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- Just so you know, recent death nominations get assessed on article quality only. The bio will be posted once the article is suitably referenced, which it currently is not. Some efforts on that front would be appreciated. Schwede66 00:10, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
regional chair selection
Should the selection of the regional chair be shown in the infobox for the regional council elections? i saw an ip address editor had removed that section , what are people's thoughts? to me the selection of the chair is related and a direct consequence of the election, so it makes sense to include that. i guess you could have a seperate infobox for the chair selection further down the page in a dedicated section as an alternative? TheLoyalOrder (talk) 01:21, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, I had the same thought. To me, the chair election is part of the election process. You only get selected as chair if you won a seat on the regional council. It's a two-step process. I'd also be happy to have the chair infobox further down if that's desirable. Schwede66 02:00, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- As long as it is clear and doesn't confuse readers into thinking the chair is elected by voters. Kiwichris (talk) 05:00, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- an example TheLoyalOrder (talk) 05:25, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, I have seen those. Not sure if "Electoral vote" is right for the infobox though as there is no electoral college. Something like "Councillor votes" perhaps? I am also mindful that most chair votes are unopposed. Kiwichris (talk) 11:49, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Well, in the last term, ECan had an interesting chairperson history. Schwede66 16:38, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, I have seen those. Not sure if "Electoral vote" is right for the infobox though as there is no electoral college. Something like "Councillor votes" perhaps? I am also mindful that most chair votes are unopposed. Kiwichris (talk) 11:49, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- an example TheLoyalOrder (talk) 05:25, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- As long as it is clear and doesn't confuse readers into thinking the chair is elected by voters. Kiwichris (talk) 05:00, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
Request for Input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics#Propose infobox political movement
Interested members of this WikiProject are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics#Propose infobox political movement regarding a potential political movement infobox. — EarthDude (Talk) 20:24, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
Candidates by electorate in the next general election
A good number of candidates have been selected in electorate contests already. Is it time to being Candidates in the next New Zealand general election by electorate, eventually renaming to 2026 when date confirmed? Ajf773 (talk) 00:39, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- That’s been discussed before elsewhere. We'll move that article on Monday. Schwede66 06:58, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Requested move 28 November 2025
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 15:41, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- 1856 Sewell Ministry → 1856 Sewell ministry
- 1856 Fox Ministry → 1856 Fox ministry
- 1861–1862 Fox Ministry → 1861–1862 Fox ministry
- 1862–1863 Domett Ministry → 1862–1863 Domett ministry
- 1863–1864 Whitaker–Fox Ministry → 1863–1864 Whitaker–Fox ministry
- 1864–1865 Weld Ministry → 1864–1865 Weld ministry
- 1865–1869 Stafford Ministry → 1865–1869 Stafford ministry
- 1869–1872 Fox Ministry → 1869–1872 Fox ministry
- 1872 Stafford Ministry → 1872 Stafford ministry
- 1872–1873 Waterhouse Ministry → 1872–1873 Waterhouse ministry
- 1873 Fox Ministry → 1873 Fox ministry
- 1873–1875 Vogel Ministry → 1873–1875 Vogel ministry
- 1875–1876 Pollen Ministry → 1875–1876 Pollen ministry
- 1876 Vogel Ministry → 1876 Vogel ministry
- Continuous Ministry (New Zealand) → Continuous ministry (New Zealand)
- Continuous Ministry → Continuous ministry
- 1876–1877 Atkinson Ministry → 1876–1877 Atkinson ministry
- 1877–1879 Grey Ministry → 1877–1879 Grey ministry
- 1879–1882 Hall Ministry → 1879–1882 Hall ministry
- 1882–1883 Whitaker Ministry → 1882–1883 Whitaker ministry
- 1883–1884 Atkinson Ministry → 1883–1884 Atkinson ministry
- 1884 Stout–Vogel Ministry → 1884 Stout–Vogel ministry
- 1884 Atkinson Ministry → 1884 Atkinson ministry
- 1884–1887 Stout–Vogel Ministry → 1884–1887 Stout–Vogel ministry
- 1887–1891 Atkinson Ministry → 1887–1891 Atkinson ministry
– Move pages to lower-case "ministry", consistent with UK articles (see Template:British ministries) and Australian articles (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian politics/Archive 11#Requested move 28 April 2023). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:02, 28 November 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 06:20, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- Support per nom. No need to have a full relist on this one IMHO, Jeffrey34555, it seems a no brainer and consistent with other similar articles. These are not proper names as required by MOS:CAPS. — Amakuru (talk) 15:20, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
Following Bishop's recent announcement, an editor has created a draft for the new mega-ministry and submitted it to AFC. I don't think it's quite ready for mainspace yet, but thought I'd share here in case there was anyone interested in expanding it. Nil🥝 04:26, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
Georgie Dansey draft
I made a start on Draft:Georgie_Dansey, who is incoming as a Labour MP on Waitangi Day to replace Adrian Rurawhe, all things being equal. I made it in main draft space rather than here so making a note so no one starts a second by mistake. DrThneed (talk) 03:58, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- We already have Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs/Georgie Dansey.-Gadfium (talk) 05:05, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Darn it, I looked and somehow didn't find it! I probably misspelt Dansey (Dansie) when I searched. Ta, I'll delete mine. DrThneed (talk) 05:08, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Just so if anyone else sees this discussion. If a candidate has stood for parliament before and they had had a reasonable chance of getting in (like Dansey had), there will be a draft in project space. Schwede66 06:46, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Darn it, I looked and somehow didn't find it! I probably misspelt Dansey (Dansie) when I searched. Ta, I'll delete mine. DrThneed (talk) 05:08, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
Malformed redirects
There are a couple of nzpol/local election related redirects that have incorrect targets. I'm not sure if deletion is warranted or if it is better to find an appropriate target for them. The redirects (there may be more):
- 2022 Far North mayoral election → Results of the 2022 New Zealand regional council elections#Northland Regional Council
- 2022 Northland local elections → Results of the 2022 New Zealand regional council elections#Northland Regional Council
are incorrect redirects under WP:SURPRISE -- the FNDC mayoral election and the NRC elections aren't the same election for the first redirect, and the Northland local elections should encompass local elections in the Northland region -- FNDC, Kaipara, Whangārei district councils, and also NRC. I guess before I think about nominating them to RfD, does anyone have suggestions on targets that would be more appropriate for these redirects? MrSeabody (talk) 02:03, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- The first one could probably be redirected to 2022 New Zealand local elections#Mayors or alternatively Mayor of the Far North; otherwise WP:RETURNTORED would be more appropriate than pointing it to the regional council. Nil🥝 02:42, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- If there was an equivalent of Results of the 2025 New Zealand territorial authority elections in Northland for the 2022 elections, I would have suggested redirecting both of these to such a page, i.e. to the equivalent of the Far North District Council section for 2022 Far North mayoral election. However, since such a page does not currently exist, I would agree with Nil in suggesting 2022 New Zealand local elections#Mayors for the first link and perhaps just 2022 New Zealand local elections for the second.
- Alternatively for the first one, potentially it could be reverted back to how it was before it was converted to a redirect on 30 March 2025?-Radicuil (talk) 04:02, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
- Apologies for the delay, I've been overseas since shortly after posting this. I've manually reverted the first article per Radicuil, and changed the redirect target of the second to 2022 New Zealand local elections. MrSeabody (talk) 05:31, 6 February 2026 (UTC)
STV final round %s
Figured I would see what people thought since I had been doing it one way but @Radicuil wanted it done different, so makes sense to get consensus before changing everything.
I had been doing it as % of the total votes but Radicuil was saying it should be % of the final round votes. To me it makes sense that it would be % of the total votes since not ranking all of the candidates is valid. Radicuil was saying final round votes makes sense as you get elected based on a majority of the final round votes.
What are people's thoughts? TheLoyalOrder (talk) 00:03, 8 February 2026 (UTC)
- For context, @TLO is referring to the recent edits on 2025 Hamilton mayoral election.-Radicuil (talk) 00:53, 8 February 2026 (UTC)
- Agree with Radicuil -- looking at the linked article, for Macindoe's percentage I read 50.3% as "18,275 is 50.3% of the final round votes", i.e., that there were 36,332 final round votes and Macindoe won 50.3% of those, i.e., 18,275 votes (in the same way that I read 44.4% as "16,895 is 44.4% of the first round votes"). Philosophically I agree with their logic on majority of final round votes, as well. MrSeabody (talk) 01:26, 8 February 2026 (UTC)
- ok we'll do that, thanks TheLoyalOrder (talk) 22:30, 20 February 2026 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Declaration of the Independence of New Zealand#Requested move 21 January 2026

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Declaration of the Independence of New Zealand#Requested move 21 January 2026 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 14:16, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
Proposed interactive maps for electorate boundaries
Considering that there has been a redistribution for this year's general election, I'm looking to add interactive maps in the style of some other Commonwealth countries, ie. Australia (eg. Division of Hume) and Ireland (eg. Dublin Central). The former is integrated with an inset of a static map, while the latter keeps the two separate within the infobox. Is this something that anyone would like to see? If so, should it be added immediately or wait until eg. parliament is dissolved? I'm also wondering if a switcher with the old map like in this example would be useful. –twotwofourtysix(talk || edits) 05:00, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
- Regarding preference, my vote goes to Dublin Central. Regarding timing, dissolution of parliament would appear appropriate. Otherwise, we'd be showing incorrect info for the time being. Schwede66 06:53, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
- I think currently most of the articles show electorates after the next election (I think the creator of those maps misunderstood, they have them dated 2025 electorates but they don't come into affect until 2026 election) TheLoyalOrder (talk) 07:02, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
- Personally I find the Dublin Central example a bit cluttered, we could put the interactive map elsewhere in the article? TheLoyalOrder (talk) 07:03, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
- I think currently most of the articles show electorates after the next election (I think the creator of those maps misunderstood, they have them dated 2025 electorates but they don't come into affect until 2026 election) TheLoyalOrder (talk) 07:02, 19 February 2026 (UTC)