Talk:United States involvement in regime change
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Inclusion of World War I
I think it's worth having a discussion on the inclusion of World War I here. I would argue that the U.S. was not really involved in "regime change" in either Germany or Austria-Hungary. Both countries' governments collapsed due to internal pressure (see German Revolution and Dissolution of Austria-Hungary) which World War I helped precipitate. But I do not think that the U.S. can be said to be "involved" in the same way as even World War II for example, when U.S. military forces were directly implicated in removing the German and Japanese governments. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:24, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- I concur that World War I should not be included. Besides what Presidentman points out, there are other factual inaccuracies: Wilson only implied that the Kaiser had to go rather than making it a hard condition; and in the negotiations leading to the Treaty of Versailles, the U.S. argued that there were no legal grounds to try the Kaiser. The paragraph reads like someone was fishing around for any reason to include WWI in the article.
- Anyone who objects to deleting the paragraph, please respond with your arguments. Thanks, GHStPaulMN (talk) 03:00, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
- Since there have been no objections to deleting the paragraph on World War I, I will delete it on 23 February 2026. GHStPaulMN (talk) 15:03, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
Ghana, 1966
Kwame Nkrumah's Wikipedia article states that claims of CIA involvement in his overthrow "have been verified". Obviously we can't source ourselves, but whoever added that also added a reference: John Prados, Safe For Democracy: The Secret Wars of the CIA (Chicago: Ivan R. Dee, 2006), p. 329.
If this is a reliable source, can we add Ghana to this article, please? KeysofDreams (talk) 03:35, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
Venezuela 2026
Keep an eye on this IsaacPuente (talk) 09:43, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
- There are already opinion pieces supporting regime change,[1] but still premature. Mellk (talk) 10:54, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
Iran 2026, potentially earlier
Considering Trump issued several tweets declaring his support for Iranian opposition, and threatened United States involvement, I'd personally say that's enough of a threshold to add it to this article. I was thinking of going even before 2026, as there is objective evidence of support by either the US government as a whole or individual politicians of groups like the MEK and Pahlavi family. I can provide sources if you want, thanks. KeysofDreams (talk) 20:56, 17 January 2026 (UTC)
- There is already coverage in the "1952–1953: Iran" section of the United States' original involvement in Iran.
- Many would argue the later issues (1979 revolution, now the issues of the last 15+ years) have been caused by the initial meddling.
- U.S. causes a coup in 1953 -> backlash to the U.S.-supported regime causes 1979 revolution -> 1979 revolution installs oppressive government -> oppressive treatment by said government incites protests in the present day.
- So I'd argue we should expand the 1952 section to say "1952-2026: Iran". Unless that's too broad? Apathyash (talk) 09:06, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- I don't disagree, but I feel by that logic we'd have to merge Afghanistan 1978-1992 and Afghanistan 2001-2021, Iraq 1991 and Iraq 2003-2021, Haiti 1991 and Haiti 1994 and Haiti 2004, etc. Despite these (mostly) being separate instances. Think about it. KeysofDreams (talk) 15:42, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- Although Trump has threatened to intervene and the U.S. government has an interest in overthrowing the Iranian government, this seems premature, in my opinion. Which sources say that there is ongoing U.S. involvement in regime change at the moment? Mellk (talk) 15:58, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- MEK: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/16/iran-blacklists-us-officials-for-supporting-terrorist-group-mek
- Pahlavi Family: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-11-19-mn-4323-story.html
- https://archive.org/details/towercommission00unit/page/398
- https://web.archive.org/web/20170409074842/http://bigstory.ap.org/article/aabda1d7582d49b784c7ec7ee2e96e6e/irans-long-exiled-prince-wants-revolution-age-trump
- These might not confirm if there's US support at this exact moment (though I personally don't doubt it), but it goes to show the U.S. government/CIA has a very long history of empowering groups explicitly stating their intention to overthrow the government. There's also the Iran Freedom and Support Act, appropriated money to spend on "pro-democracy groups" against Iran's regime. God only knows if that's actually been done or not, but I hope all of this might be convincing. Thanks. KeysofDreams (talk) 16:06, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
- This probably falls under WP:NOR if we are talking about current efforts. The sources need to directly refer to it as an attempt at regime change or something similar. The LA Times article from 1986 might be fine when referring to efforts that started under the Carter administration but we need sources that directly link any ongoing regime change efforts to those past ones. Mellk (talk) 16:11, 19 January 2026 (UTC)





