Talk:List of commercial failures in video and arcade games

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Undawn

I have temporarily taken off the Undawn entry that was added. It likely does belong, but it used poor sourcing and didn't get to the impact it had, which is what this Reuters article covers. I'd like to see more before adding it back though on being a failure that doesn't just rely back to this Reuters source. Masem (t) 01:06, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting proposal dated October 4, 2025

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The result of this discussion was to split. Splitting in progress. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 00:22, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Since I have created a draft on hardware failures, I shall propose that the section about so be split into the separate page with the same title. I think that the section is widely large in the length of text and it should be suitable enough to have its own page on Wikipedia. Darrion N. Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 12:45, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As a point of note, if we split, it should be based on this article, not the draft, as to keep the attribution of past contributors. Masem (t) 12:54, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:ProperSplit has the rules for properly splitting articles. This will preserve attribution and it will also preserve the citations, which do not seem to have copied properly into the draft (possibly because it was copied from a Wikipedia mirror?) I can help with the split if you're not sure how to do it. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 22:11, 4 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SomeoneDreaming: Yes, please. Help needed as possible. Darrion N. Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 08:30, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alright! I'll wait until a week has passed, and then if there's consensus to split I'll go ahead and do that.
Since we'll be working from this article and not from the draft, it might make sense for you to put a WP:G7 template on it, since there won't be a reason to move it to mainspace. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 20:28, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Article title

Why was the article moved? I'm not contesting the split, to be clear. I just think that List of commercial failures in video games is an accurate and concise title. We don't generally separate out arcade games, and the lede can make clear that this is talking about specifically games, not the gaming industry in general. SnowFire (talk) 05:03, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SnowFire It might be good to ping editor who moved it recently, @SomeoneDreaming. And undiscussed moves can be speedily reverted anyway, per WP:RM, so you can move it back, and if anyone thinks this needs renaming, they can start RM from the old title. On the subject matter, Category:Games by type distinguishes arcade games and video games as entities at the same level, so it does not seem correct to consider arcade games a subtype of video games (since ther are non-video arcade games; we have a Venn diagram case here, likely). All that said, I'd suggest splitting this into a List of commercial failures in video games and List of commercial failures in arcade games. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:21, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pinging SomeoneDreaming. That said, I don't think the category argument is a strong one - we routinely subdivide topics precisely in categories but also use overarching terms that can apply to larger topics. We used to use "computer and video games" everywhere (hence WP:CVG) but eventually changed it to just "video games" since more and more games were multiplatform. The same argument applies to arcade games as well - many / most arcade games, even "back in the day", were ported to other platforms. SnowFire (talk) 13:08, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Someone Dreaming split off the hardware failures to a separate list and renamed this to be more accurate. Given that arcade games are more hardware than software they should probably go over there, and this renamed to just video games. We don't need a separate list for like four entire. Masem (t) 13:14, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, exactly, thank you. I wasn't entirely sure how to deal with the remaining article and so I have no problem with you all moving it to somewhere more accurate! Thanks for the thoughtful discussion! :) SomeoneDreaming (talk) 14:47, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I, Robot - a failure?

Why? The section doesn't explain. It states that just 1,500 units were made, but that doen't mean anything. Is 1,500 way below average? How's the reader supposed to know? And even if it is below the avarage, that doesn't make it a failure - maybe that was intended? This needs to be clarified, or this section should go. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:23, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]