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"The creation of Israel in 1948 provoked a widespread anti-Zionist reaction in the Arab world, to which was added nationalist agitation, nationalization of enterprises, Arabization of education and part of the administration. Jews left Tunisia en masse from the 1950s onwards because of the problems raised and the hostile climate created by the Bizerte crisis in 1961 and the Six-Day War in 1967."

Anti-Zionism didn't drive 100,000 Tunisian Jews out of Tunisia. Antisemitism did. On the same note, why is there a ridiculous gap in history between 1942 and 2011? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.178.1.29 (talk) 07:13, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How come this article says nothing whatever about the arrival of the Sephardim after 1492 and the distinction between l'grana and tuansa? --Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da) (talk) 17:50, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think dna studies should be part of that article. neither , disctinction between l'grana and tuansa is dead now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.132.96.27 (talk) 13:58, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please see discussion at Talk:Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries#Overlap_with_.22History_of_the_Jews_in....22_articles. Oncenawhile (talk) 10:09, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tunisian Jews have traditionally referred to themselves as תוחבים toḥavim. This term is also found on the page for the El Ghriba synagogue, but not here. (Isaacandalfie (talk) 19:34, 24 May 2020 (UTC))[reply]

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This sentence "The vast majority of Tunisian Jews have relocated to Israel and have switched to using Hebrew as their home language." is not sourced and seems to be incorrect; moreover, it contradicts the preceding text saying "The Jewish diaspora of Tunisia is divided between Israel and France." I suggest removing it. Michael Boutboul (talk) 14:06, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy ping @Mikeblas, I saw you added the template on “Notable Tunisian Jews.” I’m not particularly fond of these types of lists, but they appear in most similar articles. What do you suggest, removing it or better defining the inclusion criteria and ensuring each entry has a proper source? Michael Boutboul (talk) 08:45, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think the main issue here is that almost all the entries in the list don't carry references. It needs to be established that they're: notable, Jewish, and Tunisian. Inclusion is never clear -- Someone who goes to temple every Saturday, or just sometimes? Someone who practices truly, or not? Someone who married into, or was born? Someone who lived in Tunisa? (For how long?) Born, died there? Had a significant impact on the state, community? TBH, I think significant impact is the only really useful criteria -- a zillion people are born and die in some country every day, so what? -- but it's probably unrealistic to expect that level of diligence from Wikipedia. -- mikeblas (talk) 15:41, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest to remove this section? Michael Boutboul (talk) 10:03, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In this edit, a question I'd asked was resolved by @Largoplazo:... but I just wanted to check that the original was referring to "fixing up synagogues" rather than to "keeping them open"... (leur maintenance (out of context) is ambiguous in French). Were you able to access the source? -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 22:21, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, I wasn't. I get the your point you're making here. I'd thought maybe you just meant the wording was unclear because it appeared to be saying that the same new synagogues that weren't allowed to be built also couldn't be maintained. But given the French I'd say there's a good chance it refers to keeping them open at all. Largoplazo (talk) 22:50, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, come to think of it it's probably "leur maintien" :) Maybe the author will duck back in and clarify. I suspect that to stay open special authorizations may have been needed. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 22:55, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weird. I had a look at "Christian Supersession of Synagogues", in Ritual Sites and Religious Rivalries in Late Roman North Africa, pp. 215 - 236, DOI: https://doi.org/10.1017/CBO9781316544716.007 (via the Wikipedia Library) which says that Roman laws prohibiting new synagogues were promulgated in the East (e.g. Syria...) but not in Africa (e.g. Carthage). Odd. -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 23:35, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Largoplazo, @SashiRolls, sorry for my late reply. I have been blocked for a while. Here the full text in French:

Cependant, vers la fin du IVᵉ siècle, pour entraver la diffusion du judaïsme, on interdit aux Juifs de construire de nouvelles synagogues. Peu après, une loi de 423 défendit d’embellir les synagogues existantes et même de les restaurer, à moins qu’elles ne fussent menacées de ruine, auquel cas des travaux pouvaient y être entrepris, mais après avoir été autorisés par l’administration impériale.

And a automatic translation in english:

However, towards the end of the 4th century, in order to hinder the spread of Judaism, Jews were forbidden from building new synagogues. Shortly afterwards, a law in 423 prohibited embellishing or even restoring existing synagogues, unless they were in danger of ruin — in which case work could be undertaken, but only after authorization by the imperial administration.

Michael Boutboul (talk) 11:07, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So I suggest to write it as : "The construction of new synagogues was prohibited towards the end of the fourth century, and a law of 423 further banned the restoration or embellishment of existing ones unless they were at risk of collapse and the work had been expressly authorized by the imperial administration." Michael Boutboul (talk) 15:06, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for tracking down that source... I would suggest shortening the part about the 423 law to: "after 423, even the upkeep of existing ones was subject by law to the approval of the imperial administration." I do wonder about the conflicting story being told in the source I gave above though. (See the section "Attitudes toward Synagogues in Roman Legislation") For reference the so-called "law" being referred to is in the Theodosiani Codex 16.8.25, which was a letter addressed to Asclepiodotus concerning anti-Jewish violence in Antioch. The relevant original citation from the emperor is in 16.8.25.2: Synagogae de cetero nullae protinus extruantur, veteres in sua forma permaneant. dat. xv kal. mart. constantinopoli asclepiodoto et mariniano conss. (423 febr. 15). (source translated into English: see also 16.8.27 written four months later)-- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 16:40, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please go ahead and make the change. I'm afraid I don't quite understand why you say there's a conflict between the sources — they seem to say more or less the same thing to me? Michael Boutboul (talk) 17:15, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shira Lander writes about the laws concerning synagogues, that "none of these laws are addressed to the western provinces". That said, Sebag was a Tunisian scholar and I certainly do not have any expertise on Roman jurisprudence to arbitrate between the two claims. I'll shorten the text, but will leave in the notion of "law" rather than "jurisprudence" since that's in the source. :) -- SashiRolls ^{🌿 · 🍥} 17:27, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]